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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: adamjk on April 13, 2004, 09:27:04 PM
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I've only really noticed this on the nighttime dawson Feud, and MG episodes, but on both of those, every show, had the long credits, while the daytime counterparts rarely did. Why was this?
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In the 70s, these shows were weekly series and they had to show the full credits
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Apr 13 2004, 08:27 PM\'] I've only really noticed this on the nighttime dawson Feud, and MG episodes, but on both of those, every show, had the long credits, while the daytime counterparts rarely did. Why was this? [/quote]
The nighttime weekly syndie shows nearly always had the credit roll, unless the show was really running long. When Match Game left CBS and went to five-a-week syndie and when syndie Feud went to five shows a week, the full credit roll was only shown once or twice a week. Did 70s Syndie TTTT and WML always do a full credit roll? TJW and TTD only did their full credit roll once a week when in syndication, as they were five a week.
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Did Concentration get full credit rolls on every single episode when it was Goodson/Todman and syndicated 5 episodes a week?
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Apr 13 2004, 08:30 PM\'] [quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Apr 13 2004, 08:27 PM\'] I've only really noticed this on the nighttime dawson Feud, and MG episodes, but on both of those, every show, had the long credits, while the daytime counterparts rarely did. Why was this? [/quote]
The nighttime weekly syndie shows nearly always had the credit roll, unless the show was really running long. When Match Game left CBS and went to five-a-week syndie and when syndie Feud went to five shows a week, the full credit roll was only shown once or twice a week. Did 70s Syndie TTTT and WML always do a full credit roll? TJW and TTD only did their full credit roll once a week when in syndication, as they were five a week. [/quote]
Very good information...except that all you did was add minutae and DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS THE FRIGGIN QUESTION.
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Did Concentration get full credit rolls on every single episode when it was Goodson/Todman and syndicated 5 episodes a week?
Nope. It had the same standards as the rest of the 5-a-weekers.
-Jason
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Why exactly did they have to show the full credits every week?
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Why exactly did they have to show the full credits every week?
Maybe because the contract with the staff and/or producers require it.
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[quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'Apr 14 2004, 11:12 AM\']
Why exactly did they have to show the full credits every week?
Maybe because the contract with the staff and/or producers require it.[/quote]
More importantly, the union member technicians. Goodson could credit whoever he wanted to on his own staff, any way he wanted to (remember that the producers were credited in the 50s as "associate producer" because they wanted to present the illusion that Mark and Bill were involved in every little detail of every single one of their shows and they didn't want it to get out that each show had someone else in charge--and we know that the word "writer" never existed on G-T credit rolls).
G-T always did full rolls on the panel shows because they were seen once a week in some markets at one point or another, like Chicago.
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Anyone remember when local Newscasts would show the long credit roll? Usually it was once a week on a Friday. Never see that anymore either. Kind of sucks... especially for those involved.
John
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Apr 14 2004, 02:11 PM\'] Anyone remember when local Newscasts would show the long credit roll? Usually it was once a week on a Friday. Never see that anymore either. Kind of sucks... especially for those involved.
John [/quote]
I agree, John. I recorded one of the KXAS news themes many eons ago on audio tape. It has a nice newsy feel with a middle that would fit with one of those easy listening/Muzak stations. I actually liked it.
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Apr 14 2004, 12:11 PM\'] Anyone remember when local Newscasts would show the long credit roll? Usually it was once a week on a Friday. Never see that anymore either. Kind of sucks... especially for those involved.
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Well, where I came from, credits were used to make sure the show ran the right length. We'd simply load 'em up and run as many as we needed to time out the show, and then advance to the copyright screen when time was running out, and go to black on that. So you'd see a full credit scroll if for some reason a show was really light, like a story had to die or weather or sports was shorter than was budgeted or what-not.
I can guess why you might have seen long credits on a Friday as opposed to other nights, though. Betcha it happened on the 11:00P show more often than not, too. Weekend syndrome. It's been a long week, and everyone - including the show producer, who writes the majority of the stories - is ready to go home for the weekend. So he or she is likely to pack the show lighter than they would during the week...one less story to write, that bit closer to the weekend. What the hell. Let the credits roll.
Frankly, it's nice to see your name up there the first few times, but it becomes old hat after a while, especially when you realize nobody cares who the Videotape Operator is anyhow. :)
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KXAS, when they did the rolls, did that on the Friday 6PM newscast. Typically, they gave 4 credits on the 12, 6, and 10.