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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Luxo1 on March 28, 2004, 05:50:38 PM
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I'm a newbie to the board.....so pardon me if this has been covered on another thread.
I used to be a big TPIR fan, but can't stand the show anymore. The music is horrid, the firings of all the models has really ruined any camaraderie on the show, and why they are so cheap that they won't even show the announcer is beyond me. I've stopped watching --- but it seems like I am in the minority.
I keep waiting for Janice/Holly/Claudia, etc. to comment or write a book about what happened, but nothing has appeared, except the E true Hollywood story.
Would welcome reading other perspectives/opinions, etc.
--Lux
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Claudia wasn't fired, she left the show under her own choice. I do think rotating announcers is annoying, but I don't really mind rotating models. I just wish Teri would be in the rotation more.
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[quote name=\'JayC\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 05:54 PM\']Claudia wasn't fired, she left the show under her own choice. [/quote]
Does anyone know why she chose to leave? I have read that she said that working on the show had become unbearable.......but have no further details.
Randy?
---Lux
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I heard something about Janice doing a book, but I can't confirm it right now...
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Well, the overall TPIR atmosphere has changed in the last five-ten years. I don't think the show is "unwatchable", but it is getting close...
I think I started to lose interest when they changed the set. Those are some ugly colors! Not to mention the firings of all the classic models, Rod's death (RIP), retiring superball, over-playing plinko (retiring that cool sign), etc....
But it is one of the better things in daytime.
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[quote name=\'1978-Jeopardy\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 06:12 PM\'] Not to mention the firings of all the classic models, Rod's death (RIP), retiring superball, over-playing plinko (retiring that cool sign), etc....
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*eyeroll* Retiring Finish Line did it for me.
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[quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 05:56 PM\'] [quote name=\'JayC\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 05:54 PM\']Claudia wasn't fired, she left the show under her own choice. [/quote]
Does anyone know why she chose to leave? I have read that she said that working on the show had become unbearable.......but have no further details.
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Numerous things.
Combination of Rod's death (they were very good friends), consistent model rotations, etc...
She was going to be put on a rotating basis before she decided to leave.
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[quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 02:56 PM\'] Does anyone know why she chose to leave? I have read that she said that working on the show had become unbearable.......but have no further details.
Randy?
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Oh Lux. I don't know why I'm saying anything when the message I want to convey is "I'm not saying anything". It was a combination of things, some touched on by Chris in the post just above.
Suffice it to say, I found Claudia to be a real sweetheart - a dear and sensitive soul with a playful personality. I will never forget how she came on stage with me to draw the door prize winner just after the College MDS, which was her last show. The other models insisted she be the one to do that ritual that day. It was obvious that she wanted to tell the studio audience how much she enjoyed being a "Barker Beauty", but she began to sob uncontrollably. The other girls joined her on stage and the audience showed her a lot of love. It was a very touching moment.
While it seems that a lot of viewers miss her, I'm sure Claudia is doing well.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 07:26 PM\'] [quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 02:56 PM\'] Does anyone know why she chose to leave? I have read that she said that working on the show had become unbearable.......but have no further details.
Randy?
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Oh Lux. I don't know why I'm saying anything when the message I want to convey is "I'm not saying anything". It was a combination of things, some touched on by Chris in the post just above. [/quote]
Tell the truth, Randy... Claudia was an agent for the Mossad and when Bob found out her true identity, she had to go into hiding. :-)
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 05:57 PM\'] I heard something about Janice doing a book, but I can't confirm it right now... [/quote]
There were rumors of a tell all book shortly after Janice's departure.
Not sure how much truth there was to that, but I had heard a few years back that she had signed an agreement that would prevent her from doing something like that. Can't confirm that though.
Besides, I'm sure she would find a way to make half the book about Fritz.
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While it seems that a lot of viewers miss her, I'm sure Claudia is doing well.
I'm pretty sure she's Livin' Large.
(off to the TTD 90 room for me)
Anyway Luxo, I completely understand how you feel. I don't agree, but I understand. I wish that some people would see past some of the background stuff and try to enjoy the games and kooky kontestants...and try to enjoy the show. Besides...most of those cuts would have happened soon anyway.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 08:45 PM\'] [quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 07:26 PM\'] [quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 02:56 PM\'] Does anyone know why she chose to leave? I have read that she said that working on the show had become unbearable.......but have no further details.
Randy?
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Oh Lux. I don't know why I'm saying anything when the message I want to convey is "I'm not saying anything". It was a combination of things, some touched on by Chris in the post just above. [/quote]
Tell the truth, Randy... Claudia was an agent for the Mossad and when Bob found out her true identity, she had to go into hiding. :-) [/quote]
In fact, it's believed that she was involved in the disappearance of Janice's first husband.
(One remark about that being the wrong country and I break-a you face. ;-)
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 08:45 PM\'] Tell the truth, Randy... Claudia was an agent for the Mossad and when Bob found out her true identity, she had to go into hiding. :-) [/quote]
Claudia's just fine...she's in my dorm room, watching me type this. :-P
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 11:00 PM\'] [quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 08:45 PM\'] Tell the truth, Randy... Claudia was an agent for the Mossad and when Bob found out her true identity, she had to go into hiding. :-) [/quote]
Claudia's just fine...she's in my dorm room, watching me type this. :-P [/quote]
Y'know the GSN original Marianne Curan hosted, "When Did That Happen?" I suggest that you try out for her upcoming sequel... "What Will Never Happen?" ;-)
- David
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 09:21 PM\']I wish that some people would see past some of the background stuff and try to enjoy the games and kooky kontestants...and try to enjoy the show. [/quote]
That's my point....the show isn't the same anymore....it's play game, commercial, play game, commercial, etc. I miss when Bob would interact with Rod and the models, etc. I remember the days when he would say: "Girls, come out here...." and they would chat. Now the show has more commercials than ever, and has lost its zing....
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[quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 11:08 PM\'] I remember the days when he would say: "Girls, come out here...." and they would chat. Now the show has more commercials than ever, and has lost its zing.... [/quote]
Frankly I found the "interviews" with Barker's Beauties to be insipid and more than a little overbearing. I don't miss 'em a bit.
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That's my point....the show isn't the same anymore....it's play game, commercial, play game, commercial, etc. I miss when Bob would interact with Rod and the models, etc. I remember the days when he would say: "Girls, come out here...." and they would chat. Now the show has more commercials than ever, and has lost its zing....
True, but that's totally not their fault. I think someone compare a show's running time from the 80's to now, and there's a cut of like 6 minutes. I'm pleased to see that there wasn't a cut to gameplay, like some shows did in later years/incarnations.
Frankly I found the "interviews" with Barker's Beauties to be insipid and more than a little overbearing. I don't miss 'em a bit.
I thought the early 80's there was WAY too much talking. by the late 80's/early 90's, I think the talking was just right.
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And now there is no talking.....we never see the announcer, (have never quite understood that, how much money is that saving Cheapmantle, and.......they hardly use any of the classic music that so many fans adored......so much of the music on the show is new.......and rather blase.
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[quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 12:16 PM\'] And now there is no talking.....we never see the announcer, (have never quite understood that, how much money is that saving Cheapmantle, and.......they hardly use any of the classic music that so many fans adored......so much of the music on the show is new.......and rather blase. [/quote]
The average viewer doesn't even notice the musical changes, I would wager.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 03:38 PM\'] [quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 12:16 PM\'] And now there is no talking.....we never see the announcer, (have never quite understood that, how much money is that saving Cheapmantle, and.......they hardly use any of the classic music that so many fans adored......so much of the music on the show is new.......and rather blase. [/quote]
The average viewer doesn't even notice the musical changes, I would wager. [/quote]
The average viewer doesn't even know there is music. New music, old music, they don't know.
Believe me, it is known that most people prefer the older Score package, but one of the reasons given for the new music was that some of the tunes were old/outdated and needed to be retired.
One cue that was supposed to be retired (one that I agreed with) was a violin variation of the main theme often used for clocks during an IUFB. But I still hear it every so often.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 03:26 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 03:38 PM\'] [quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 12:16 PM\'] And now there is no talking.....we never see the announcer, (have never quite understood that, how much money is that saving Cheapmantle, and.......they hardly use any of the classic music that so many fans adored......so much of the music on the show is new.......and rather blase. [/quote]
The average viewer doesn't even notice the musical changes, I would wager. [/quote]
The average viewer doesn't even know there is music. New music, old music, they don't know.
Believe me, it is known that most people prefer the older Score package, but one of the reasons given for the new music was that some of the tunes were old/outdated and needed to be retired. [/quote]
I still don't see the logic behind changing all the music around when most of us -- the only people who even notice the darn stuff -- love the old cues and despise the new ones.
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I still don't see the logic behind changing all the music around when most of us -- the only people who even notice the darn stuff -- love the old cues and despise the new ones.
Exactly.....and why the heck don't they show the announcers anymore?
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[quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 04:20 PM\'] Exactly.....and why the heck don't they show the announcers anymore? [/quote]
DisMantle doesn't want to pay extra to have him on camera, and I think it has something to do with Bob wanting the attention.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 05:14 PM\'] [quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 03:26 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 03:38 PM\'] [quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 12:16 PM\'] And now there is no talking.....we never see the announcer, (have never quite understood that, how much money is that saving Cheapmantle, and.......they hardly use any of the classic music that so many fans adored......so much of the music on the show is new.......and rather blase. [/quote]
The average viewer doesn't even notice the musical changes, I would wager. [/quote]
The average viewer doesn't even know there is music. New music, old music, they don't know.
Believe me, it is known that most people prefer the older Score package, but one of the reasons given for the new music was that some of the tunes were old/outdated and needed to be retired. [/quote]
I still don't see the logic behind changing all the music around when most of us -- the only people who even notice the darn stuff -- love the old cues and despise the new ones. [/quote]
Most of the people who love the Score package are obviously fans of the show.
The thought was that even though the old Score package was good, it was just getting tired, with the same music for 30+ years.
If Bob didn't like the new cues, they wouldn't be on the show.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 29 2004, 01:54 AM\'] [quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 11:08 PM\'] I remember the days when he would say: "Girls, come out here...." and they would chat. Now the show has more commercials than ever, and has lost its zing.... [/quote]
Frankly I found the "interviews" with Barker's Beauties to be insipid and more than a little overbearing. I don't miss 'em a bit. [/quote]
I can see that. The show is o.k. IMO these days, but the thing that is getting a tad bit boring for me is that every time someone sneezes during the playing of a game or gets something right, Bob exclaims that it's the first time this has happened in 32 years, or how it's some kind of TPIR record (like he keeps track or something). Everything's a new record. They should keep track of how many times in a given week Bob makes that sort of mention and how Roger quickly smiles and nods in agreement.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 05:13 PM\'] Most of the people who love the Score package are obviously fans of the show.
The thought was that even though the old Score package was good, it was just getting tired, with the same music for 30+ years. [/quote]
You know, I don't doubt that this was the logic Stan used...but it doesn't strike me as being very good logic. If we're the only ones who pay attention to the songs, wouldn't it stand to reason that he'd try to play stuff that we actually like, regardless of how old it is?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 06:39 PM\'] [quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Apr 4 2004, 05:13 PM\'] Most of the people who love the Score package are obviously fans of the show.
The thought was that even though the old Score package was good, it was just getting tired, with the same music for 30+ years. [/quote]
You know, I don't doubt that this was the logic Stan used...but it doesn't strike me as being very good logic. If we're the only ones who pay attention to the songs, wouldn't it stand to reason that he'd try to play stuff that we actually like, regardless of how old it is? [/quote]
Assuming we (as a fandom) were indeed the only ones to pay attention to the music selection, then Stan has the choice between programming music to the tastes of a bunch of faceless uber-fans, the vast majority of whom he's never met or heard of, or programming to his tastes.
When more of the uber-fans have Nielsen boxes, maybe he'll change his tune, so to speak. Until then, he's really only accountable to the producers and director of the show on which he's working. And unless they dislike a selection of Stan's or his overall musical direction, he gets to pretty much pick what *he* likes.
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SplitSecond has a point there. I'm always on the lookout for classic cues. When they're played, my memory bank goes ga-ga over that piece. Anyway, the nusic is & will ALWAYS be in integral part of the show. If you like it, fine. If you don't, tough luck.
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Amidst all this, it seems to me that, this season, they've considerably dialed back the percentage of "new" music per show--compared to the last couple of seasons, at least.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Apr 5 2004, 04:52 AM\']Amidst all this, it seems to me that, this season, they've considerably dialed back the percentage of "new" music per show--compared to the last couple of seasons, at least.[/quote]
For one thing, the newer packages that have popped up in the last year or two have a fuller sound to them than the 1994 package and blend in with the older stuff better, because they're using acoustic instruments and more of them than the 1994 package.
Even though, it seemed like I wasn't hearing the old exercise equipment cue that much until recently--and that's from the original package. (If you hear it, you'll know which one I mean--although I believe last time I heard it it was used for something other than exercise equipment.)
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For one thing, the newer packages that have popped up in the last year or two have a fuller sound to them than the 1994 package and blend in with the older stuff better, because they're using acoustic instruments and more of them than the 1994 package.
I agree...the 94 cues always seemed a bit out of place to me, especially compared to the 72, 75, and 83 packages, but I've having no prob w/these new pieces that turned up recently.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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when did claudia jordan leave tpir on CBS? and why did she leave TPIR?
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Oh, for crying out loud.
Could you not do *any* research at all? Both of those topics have been discussed here, at ezBoard, and ATGS. Do some of the work yourself, before you come asking everyone to do it for you.
I was also under the impression that if your signature is longer than your post, it's too long. Is that still true?
Travis Eberle
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[quote name=\'JacksonBrowne1980\' date=\'Apr 5 2004, 09:10 PM\'] when did claudia jordan leave tpir on CBS? and why did she leave TPIR? [/quote]
What are you talking about? And who's that guy hosting Wheel Of Fortune this week? Is Chuck on vacation?
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As far as exercise equipment cues go, once in a while I hear that MGHS "fee plug" cue often used for exercise equipment as IUFBs but I haven't heard it in a long tine. I wonder if it's getting fewer airplays in regards to the new packages.
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Mar 29 2004, 09:47 AM\'] I'm pleased to see that there wasn't a cut to gameplay, like some shows did in later years/incarnations. [/quote]
*ahem*Pyramid*ahem*
;)
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Apr 6 2004, 04:05 AM\'] [quote name=\'JacksonBrowne1980\' date=\'Apr 5 2004, 09:10 PM\'] when did claudia jordan leave tpir on CBS? and why did she leave TPIR? [/quote]
What are you talking about? And who's that guy hosting Wheel Of Fortune this week? Is Chuck on vacation? [/quote]
I dunno....I'm still getting over who's subbing for Bill Cullen recently on TPIR ;)
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Apr 6 2004, 04:07 AM\'] As far as exercise equipment cues go, once in a while I hear that MGHS "fee plug" cue often used for exercise equipment as IUFBs but I haven't heard it in a long tine. I wonder if it's getting fewer airplays in regards to the new packages. [/quote]
Actually, I think that's generally a Showcase cue...but you're right, it seems to have nearly vanished.