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Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: curtking on March 25, 2004, 10:49:10 PM
From the Endless Games (http://\"http://www.endlessgames.com/new1.html#newprice\") site:

"Come on down" to the longest running game show in television history! From the opening bid to the showcase showdown, all the fun of the popular game show is back! With 30+ games from the World's most popular game show, you can bring home the excitement of actually having Bob Barker in your living room. Did you correctly guess the price on the grandfather clock? Is the box of detergent higher or lower than $3.99? The tension is high... and the prizes are plenty, if... THE PRICE IS RIGHT™!

It's listed on the "New Stuff" page...wonder when it will be in stores?

Curt
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Vgmastr on March 25, 2004, 11:33:39 PM
The creator of the game posts at the golden-road.net forums.  According to him, there will be 45 pricing games, and he has a list of them at this website (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/travxavier/homegame4.html\").
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on March 26, 2004, 12:38:13 AM
[quote name=\'Vgmastr\' date=\'Mar 25 2004, 11:33 PM\'] The creator of the game posts at the golden-road.net forums.  According to him, there will be 45 pricing games, and he has a list of them at this website (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/travxavier/homegame4.html\"). [/quote]
I question the integrity of the list, for I noticed that "Plinko" is among the games.  Unless they give you a mini-plinko board...[which I doubt], I don't see this happening.

I was, however, amused to see everyones favorites--Pick a Number and Joker among the listed games.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Don Howard on March 26, 2004, 01:46:20 AM
[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 12:38 AM\'] [quote name=\'Vgmastr\' date=\'Mar 25 2004, 11:33 PM\'] The creator of the game posts at the golden-road.net forums.  According to him, there will be 45 pricing games, and he has a list of them at this website (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/travxavier/homegame4.html\"). [/quote]
I question the integrity of the list, for I noticed that "Plinko" is among the games.  Unless they give you a mini-plinko board...[which I doubt], I don't see this happening. [/quote]
Perhaps you spin a wheel instead. Not exactly Plinko as on TV, but a mini-Plinko board seems far-fetched. We'll know soon. By the way, isn't that the guy from the season-opener?
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: ClockGameJohn on March 26, 2004, 07:34:02 AM
Correct you are Don.

Travis Schiaro is the one who pitched this idea to Endless Games for an update and was the first contestant to be called in Season 32.  He won the first pricing game of Season 32, Lucky $even, and snagged a nice Cadillac.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 26, 2004, 09:31:06 AM
By the way, look closely at the collage photograph on the Endless Games home page and you'll see that they still show the Password box with the misspelled "Forth Edition".  (Versions that reached stores were corrected.)

Gotta love misspelling a word on the box of a word game!
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: The Ol' Guy on March 26, 2004, 10:33:03 AM
Amen!
And who can forget the Concentration cover with a numbered slide or two in the wrong positions.....or the What's My Line score wheel that when you line up the information on one side, the information was partially obscured or cut off in the window on the other (at least in my edition)....  I'll be interested in seeing the new PIR. I give them big props for even being in the game show home game arena, but I hope they won't have to change their slogan to....

"We skip quality control and pass the savings on to YOU!"
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 26, 2004, 11:19:24 AM
[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 11:33 AM\'] "We skip quality control and pass the savings on to YOU!" [/quote]
 No offense to my friends over there, but that's pretty much exactly what they DO!  To keep costs low they operate on a shoestring, and honestly, none of the guys over there really know game shows all that well in the first place, certainly not the way we do.

Being small, they are almost preposterously open to suggestions, which is why a lot of us have had dealings with them over the years.  Look in the fine print of your What's My Line instructions, for example, and see who rewrote their rules for them!
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: JamesVipond on March 26, 2004, 11:44:20 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 11:19 AM\'][quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 11:33 AM\'] "We skip quality control and pass the savings on to YOU!" [/quote]
No offense to my friends over there, but that's pretty much exactly what they DO!  To keep costs low they operate on a shoestring, and honestly, none of the guys over there really know game shows all that well in the first place, certainly not the way we do.

Being small, they are almost preposterously open to suggestions, which is why a lot of us have had dealings with them over the years.  Look in the fine print of your What's My Line instructions, for example, and see who rewrote their rules for them![/quote]
Matt, I know you took offense with the first game, which continued to use four-digit car prices. And like a previous poster, I question the integrity of that list of pricing games: Are we really to expect a Plinko board, a pack of playing cards and a set of dice to accompany the other game elements?
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: clemon79 on March 26, 2004, 12:00:03 PM
[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 09:44 AM\'] Are we really to expect a Plinko board, a pack of playing cards and a set of dice to accompany the other game elements? [/quote]
 No way in hell. I think it has "hoax" written all over it.

I gotta rant a second: Some of you know I've been gathering material for the last couple weeks for a Family Feud game I'll be hosting at my weekly game night tonight (using Particleman's exceptional FF software), and the first thing I did was take a trip down to my local thrift store to see if I could find a cheap FF home game to steal questions out of. Well, I found the Endless Games red-box version from I think 1998, listed at $1.98, because all that was inside the box was the question book, no dry-erase board, no play money, no strike board, nothing else. However, the question book was all I really wanted anyhow, so I cheerfully ponied up a couple Washingtons and went on my way.

When I got to pouring through the book, I quickly found out why the previous owner left it behind: apparently the folks at Endless didn't have a freakin' clue about researching game material. Most questions had at LEAST eight answers, all too often the #1 answer would be worth like 70 points, and the rest 5 or less, and in many occasions the total value of the survey would add up to less than 70 points, or more than 100. (Yes. We surveyed 100 people, my ass.)

Fast Money has the same 70 point problem. There are more than a few of the 60 Fast Money games in that book where three #1 answers would be enough to put the first player over the hump before the guy in the isolation booth even got used to the loud headsets.

The nutshell was that I thought I was just gonna be able to go through and pluck questions out for my game, but it turned out I had to scour it for usable questions, and those were only really useful in the Single rounds, I had to consult other sources for the Double and Triple questions. And I was NEVER able to lift a Fast Money round out wholesale.

So forgive me if I'm a little wary of a Super Deluxe TPiR coming out of those people, because they simply aren't the type to pony up a deck of cards for 1 pricing game out of 45 if they can just cut it instead. Hell, they didn't even bother with custom cards for the Card Sharks game, they're some generic brand, and I suspect they're not Bees or Bikes.

I'll be thrilled to be proven wrong, tho.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 26, 2004, 04:28:57 PM
[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 12:44 PM\'] Matt, I know you took offense with the first game, which continued to use four-digit car prices. And like a previous poster, I question the integrity of that list of pricing games: Are we really to expect a Plinko board, a pack of playing cards and a set of dice to accompany the other game elements? [/quote]
 I'm not familiar with Travis Schiaro, and I don't know specifically what his relationship with Endless Games actually is.  Somebody here referred to him as the "creator" of the new Endless version and I find that very unlikely.  As I said before, they are very open to suggestions. My *guess* is that they took his suggestions along with everyone else's, and he thought he was contributing more to the final product than he really was.  He shows 45 games and Endless says "30+", so that tells you something.

According to his website, he's been creating his own home versions of TPIR, and he's now up to the "Sixth Edition", whatever that means.  I'm sure HIS version has some makeshift Plinko board and lots of other details that are impractical for Endless to duplicate on a large scale.  

As far as Endless goes, dice wouldn't surprise me, nor would a deck of cards.  Beyond that, though, I'm just hoping they come up with a simple spinner for the Showcase Showdown.  I'm not holding out hope for a Plinko board.

(BTW, their ad copy still refers incorrectly to the conclusion of the game as the Showcase Showdown.  As I said, these guys aren't huge fans.)
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: PeterMarshallFan on March 26, 2004, 04:40:01 PM
For what it's worth, I noticed on Travis's site that a deck of cards with different amounts were used for Plinko...
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 26, 2004, 04:45:43 PM
Here's the relevant thread at Golden Road. (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3415&highlight=endless&sid=42e18f0f07c6534a1dbe59e3be73a9fe\")  A lot of people there seem to be giving Travis a lot of credit, based on nothing more than his own posts.  He met with Endless earlier this month, long after they had already announced they had a Second Edition in the works.  You be the judge.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Casey Buck on March 26, 2004, 06:09:50 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 09:00 AM\']I gotta rant a second: Some of you know I've been gathering material for the last couple weeks for a Family Feud game I'll be hosting at my weekly game night tonight (using Particleman's exceptional FF software), and the first thing I did was take a trip down to my local thrift store to see if I could find a cheap FF home game to steal questions out of. Well, I found the Endless Games red-box version from I think 1998, listed at $1.98, because all that was inside the box was the question book, no dry-erase board, no play money, no strike board, nothing else. However, the question book was all I really wanted anyhow, so I cheerfully ponied up a couple Washingtons and went on my way.

When I got to pouring through the book, I quickly found out why the previous owner left it behind: apparently the folks at Endless didn't have a freakin' clue about researching game material. Most questions had at LEAST eight answers, all too often the #1 answer would be worth like 70 points, and the rest 5 or less, and in many occasions the total value of the survey would add up to less than 70 points, or more than 100. (Yes. We surveyed 100 people, my ass.)

Fast Money has the same 70 point problem. There are more than a few of the 60 Fast Money games in that book where three #1 answers would be enough to put the first player over the hump before the guy in the isolation booth even got used to the loud headsets.

The nutshell was that I thought I was just gonna be able to go through and pluck questions out for my game, but it turned out I had to scour it for usable questions, and those were only really useful in the Single rounds, I had to consult other sources for the Double and Triple questions. And I was NEVER able to lift a Fast Money round out wholesale.[/quote]
How did the game go? Were the contestants impressed with Particleman's Feud board?

Anyways, I found a site that has all the Family Feud questions you could ever need; these were taken directly from the show (could have saved 2 bucks!).

http://www.angelfire.com/on/jhuhn/ffsurveys/ (http://\"http://www.angelfire.com/on/jhuhn/ffsurveys/\")
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: zachhoran on March 26, 2004, 07:10:43 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 04:28 PM\']

As far as Endless goes, dice wouldn't surprise me, nor would a deck of cards.  Beyond that, though, I'm just hoping they come up with a simple spinner for the Showcase Showdown.  I'm not holding out hope for a Plinko board.
 [/quote]
 If this game is to be modeled after MB's 1986 game as Endless' first edition was, let's hope they include four of the "pricers" like the MB game did instead of only one like the last Endless game did. And of course, no cars priced under $10K :)(Well, there is the Kia Rio)
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: clemon79 on March 26, 2004, 07:49:47 PM
[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 04:09 PM\'] How did the game go? Were the contestants impressed with Particleman's Feud board?

 [/quote]
 We haven't played yet. Gametime is around 8:30P tonight.
Quote
Anyways, I found a site that has all the Family Feud questions you could ever need; these were taken directly from the show (could have saved 2 bucks!).

http://www.angelfire.com/on/jhuhn/ffsurveys/ (http://\"http://www.angelfire.com/on/jhuhn/ffsurveys/\")
Yes, those were the other sources I alluded to, someone else provided me with that site as well. It's good, but not perfect, since it only has front-game and no Fast Money questions, but the combination of the two proved to be most useful.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: The Ol' Guy on March 26, 2004, 08:04:00 PM
I spotted your credit in the Endless WML, Mr. O, and attempted to couch my language to point any barbs only at Endless. I bought an opened copy for $9.99 and was glad I didn't pay more. I knew it was a copy of the Lowell, but didn't know they just put in a list of occupations, as compared to the clever printing of the occupations on the photo cards, where an occasional good shuffle would create interesting mixes of people and professions. Even updating the jobs and printing them on the photo cards wouldn't be that tough. There might be better ways, but the "pick a job at random" was a cheap way out. That said, there could be a couple of ways to attempt a low-budget "plinko" board - either make it the only plastic molded item in the game shrunk to scale and use small bearings or marbles to drop down from the top ( a potential hazard, however, around kids under 3)- or, print a replica like the other PIR game boards and make each of the bounce points the equivalent of a space. Think of a chinese checker board with the tiny black lines connecting each hole horizontally, vertically, and diagonally. Either the roll of a die or the draw of a card could tell you how to move the marker from the top to the bottom of the Plinko board card with the money amounts...move down two spaces diagonal LEFT - move 2 spaces horizontal RIGHT - making moves until you hit a space on the bottom row and you land in the amount directly below it. Someone in a previous post mentioned playing it with cards. Whatever. And I'd wager a small sum that there will be very little or no internal supports in the packaging, in the "just dump the parts in the box" style of Password Jr. and Beat The Clock. Gotta make it cheap enough to make the corporate buyers at TRU and Wal-Mart happy...
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: BrandonFG on March 26, 2004, 08:33:43 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 07:10 PM\'] And of course, no cars priced under $10K :)(Well, there is the Kia Rio) [/quote]
Nope...even the Rio's over $10,000.

By $280, to be exact.  (http://\"http://kia.com/rio/index.php\")

(That MSRP is about $10,279 too much, if you ask me.)
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: zachhoran on March 26, 2004, 08:46:21 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 08:33 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 07:10 PM\'] And of course, no cars priced under $10K :)(Well, there is the Kia Rio) [/quote]
Nope...even the Rio's over $10,000.

By $280, to be exact.  (http://\"http://kia.com/rio/index.php\")

(That MSRP is about $10,279 too much, if you ask me.) [/quote]
 It seems as though WOF had a $9K Kia model away up for grabs in the Mystery round a few months ago
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on March 27, 2004, 12:40:46 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 08:33 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 07:10 PM\'] And of course, no cars priced under $10K :)(Well, there is the Kia Rio) [/quote]
Nope...even the Rio's over $10,000.

By $280, to be exact.  (http://\"http://kia.com/rio/index.php\")

(That MSRP is about $10,279 too much, if you ask me.) [/quote]
A base model Kia Rio is $9740. [Found in the "Build Your Own" section.]
Also, in a discussion I had with another board member last night; there's other reasons to discredit this guy...look at his "bio" and also notice the fact he has a proposal for "Strip Password"; or something like that.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: The Ol' Guy on March 27, 2004, 10:39:39 AM
The home page says "Strip Monopoly" - was there something else there, too? Someone tried Strip Password - I have an old tabloid article buried somewhere stating a game show named "Razzle Dazzle" being made for an adult cable channel had a rapid-fire password-type word description game, and the loser on a team in each round had to shed a garment. There was a photo of players on the set - but not sure if it was a pilot shot or it went to air. 80's, maybe?

...or perhaps it morphed into "Everything Goes"? Anyway, the initial description was a word-guessing game.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Don Howard on March 27, 2004, 11:54:34 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 04:45 PM\'] Here's the relevant thread at Golden Road. (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3415&highlight=endless&sid=42e18f0f07c6534a1dbe59e3be73a9fe\") [/quote]
 Is there a secret handshake required to be able to get into the Golden Road forum? I registered, got a confirmation e-mail, went to sign in and was told that my information was incorrect, which is fascinating since I was looking directly at a printout of the user name and password I chose while I typed it in....all seven times. Forget it! It's not worth the aggravation.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Casey Buck on March 27, 2004, 12:03:47 PM
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Is there a secret handshake required to be able to get into the Golden Road forum? I registered, got a confirmation e-mail, went to sign in and was told that my information was incorrect, which is fascinating since I was looking directly at a printout of the user name and password I chose while I typed it in....all seven times. Forget it! It's not worth the aggravation.

No, there's not a secret handshake, just a blood oath. :D

Try sending Marc Green (Golden-road.net's admin) an email (marc@golden-road.net (marc@golden-road.net)) explaining what's wrong; he'll straighten it all out.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Don Howard on March 27, 2004, 12:45:43 PM
[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 12:03 PM\']
Quote
Is there a secret handshake required to be able to get into the Golden Road forum? I registered, got a confirmation e-mail, went to sign in and was told that my information was incorrect, which is fascinating since I was looking directly at a printout of the user name and password I chose while I typed it in....all seven times. Forget it! It's not worth the aggravation.

No, there's not a secret handshake, just a blood oath. :D

Try sending Marc Green (Golden-road.net's admin) an email (marc@golden-road.net (marc@golden-road.net)) explaining what's wrong; he'll straighten it all out. [/quote]
 No, never mind. This group more than satisfies my game show discussion needs.
On the 10th attempt over there, I finally got in but now see that I can't post there because I don't have "special access". Let 'em have their little clique.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: ClockGameJohn on March 27, 2004, 03:35:19 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 12:45 PM\'] I finally got in but now see that I can't post there because I don't have "special access". Let 'em have their little clique. [/quote]
No "clique" over there Don-boy.  Settle down.  Just some security measures to weed out the trolls, just as been done by this board here.

Furthermore, there is clearly a thread explaining the "new member process," just as this site provides as well located right here. (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3679\")

I think both boards provide lots of entertainment for fans.  No need to start a war.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 27, 2004, 04:38:55 PM
[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 04:35 PM\'] I think both boards provide lots of entertainment for fans.  No need to start a war. [/quote]
 Absolutely.  In fact, Golden Road appears to be a little more open than even we are, since I was able to read their board without signing up.

Besides, Marc Green and I get along just fine, and one disgruntled member here or there isn't going to start a war between us.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: dzinkin on March 27, 2004, 05:13:07 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 04:38 PM\'][quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 04:35 PM\'] I think both boards provide lots of entertainment for fans.  No need to start a war. [/quote]
Absolutely.  In fact, Golden Road appears to be a little more open than even we are, since I was able to read their board without signing up.
[/quote]
I suspect that they're more open than we are because Moron #1 and Moron #2 haven't been copying posts from there en masse and reposting them to ATGS surrounded with racist, homophobic, antisemitic, or otherwise bigoted remarks.

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 04:38 PM\']Besides, Marc Green and I get along just fine, and one disgruntled member here or there isn't going to start a war between us.[/quote]
Darn it... and I was going to negotiate for the PPV rights. :-D

Seriously, this isn't a war.  As I understand it, the two boards have a considerable overlap in membership... and unlike the bazillion Yahoo/MSN discussion group/ego feeders that pop up quickly and die just as quickly, both efforts are full of both useful information and (usually) cogent discussion.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: ClockGameJohn on March 27, 2004, 06:39:45 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 05:13 PM\'] I suspect that they're more open than we are because Moron #1 and Moron #2 haven't been copying posts from there en masse and reposting them to ATGS surrounded with racist, homophobic, antisemitic, or otherwise bigoted remarks. [/quote]
I think you need to check some ATGS stuff, David.  :)  We've had our fair share of abuse too.

Thankfully, I can say that both G-R.net and Invision are free of it.  (Not to say that we both don't have our own share of stupidity at times!)  :-P
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: PeterMarshallFan on March 27, 2004, 07:48:25 PM
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Thankfully, I can say that both G-R.net and Invision are free of it. (Not to say that we both don't have our own share of stupidity at times!) :-P

Even Daniel Rosen on one crazy night came in for a troll. I'm dead serious.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Don Howard on March 27, 2004, 10:34:23 PM
[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 03:35 PM\'] No "clique" over there Don-boy.  Settle down.  Just some security measures to weed out the trolls, just as been done by this board here.

 [/quote]
 Understood. Sorry about the unfounded accusation. Must be my time of the month.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 28, 2004, 06:46:58 PM
Travis was recently approved for membership, so we might be getting his comments on all this before too long.

Having said that, take a look at this link which shows his homemade version in much greater detail.  I still say that a lot of this will be impractical for Endless to duplicate in a mass-market sort of way, but I do give Travis a lot of credit for the amount of effort he's put into his...uh...effort.

http://www.geocities.com/travxavier/homegame.html (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/travxavier/homegame.html\")
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: dzinkin on March 28, 2004, 07:11:07 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 06:46 PM\'] Travis was recently approved for membership, so we might be getting his comments on all this before too long.

Having said that, take a look at this link which shows his homemade version in much greater detail.  I still say that a lot of this will be impractical for Endless to duplicate in a mass-market sort of way, but I do give Travis a lot of credit for the amount of effort he's put into his...uh...effort.

http://www.geocities.com/travxavier/homegame.html (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/travxavier/homegame.html\") [/quote]
 The site has been disquotafied.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on March 28, 2004, 07:18:36 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 08:11 PM\'] [quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 06:46 PM\'] Travis was recently approved for membership, so we might be getting his comments on all this before too long.

Having said that, take a look at this link which shows his homemade version in much greater detail.  I still say that a lot of this will be impractical for Endless to duplicate in a mass-market sort of way, but I do give Travis a lot of credit for the amount of effort he's put into his...uh...effort.

http://www.geocities.com/travxavier/homegame.html (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/travxavier/homegame.html\") [/quote]
The site has been disquotafied. [/quote]
 Man, chalk another one up to the power of this forum (and of course the miserably tiny allowances of GeoCities), because the page isn't even linked from his own homepage!

Anyway, keep an eye on it.  Interesting stuff.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on March 28, 2004, 09:55:51 PM
[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 07:48 PM\']
Quote
Thankfully, I can say that both G-R.net and Invision are free of it. (Not to say that we both don't have our own share of stupidity at times!) :-P

Even Daniel Rosen on one crazy night came in for a troll. I'm dead serious. [/quote]
 You know, we don't actually know that that was Rosen (or at least, we don't as far as I know).  It was just some goof who created around 12 different accounts and made about fifty posts with that praising Rosen and vaguely insulting Randy.  Really, the most amazing part of it was that he was able to make it look like the various accounts were having intelligent conversations with each other (or as intelligent as you can get when you're being an idiot, anyway).
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: Mike Tennant on March 29, 2004, 01:52:47 PM
[quote name=\'curtking\' date=\'Mar 25 2004, 10:49 PM\']It's listed on the "New Stuff" page...wonder when it will be in stores?[/quote]
A press release (http://\"http://www.endlessgames.com/press/pricesisright.pdf\") on the Endless website from last October says it will be "available nationwide in August, 2004."  That, of course, may change, but it seems about right; it gets the game in stores for the Christmas shopping season.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: clemon79 on March 29, 2004, 02:00:16 PM
[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Mar 29 2004, 11:52 AM\'] [quote name=\'curtking\' date=\'Mar 25 2004, 10:49 PM\']It's listed on the "New Stuff" page...wonder when it will be in stores?[/quote]
A press release (http://\"http://www.endlessgames.com/press/pricesisright.pdf\") on the Endless website from last October says it will be "available nationwide in August, 2004."  That, of course, may change, but it seems about right; it gets the game in stores for the Christmas shopping season. [/quote]
 It also says it will include 10 games and not 35. In fact, the descriptions of the rest of it pretty much mirror the remake of the 1987 version they already butchered.
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: PeterMarshallFan on March 29, 2004, 05:57:58 PM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Mar 28 2004, 10:55 PM\'] [quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Mar 27 2004, 07:48 PM\']
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Thankfully, I can say that both G-R.net and Invision are free of it. (Not to say that we both don't have our own share of stupidity at times!) :-P

Even Daniel Rosen on one crazy night came in for a troll. I'm dead serious. [/quote]
You know, we don't actually know that that was Rosen (or at least, we don't as far as I know).  It was just some goof who created around 12 different accounts and made about fifty posts with that praising Rosen and vaguely insulting Randy.  Really, the most amazing part of it was that he was able to make it look like the various accounts were having intelligent conversations with each other (or as intelligent as you can get when you're being an idiot, anyway). [/quote]
 What made me think it was actually Rosen himself was something pointed out on golden-road---all 12 aliases made the same grammatical errors as Rosen did in an email reply to another member.

Of course, could've just been an ATGS reject stirring up trouble, too...
Title: TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games
Post by: zachhoran on March 29, 2004, 07:00:38 PM
[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Mar 29 2004, 05:57 PM\']
Of course, could've just been an ATGS reject stirring up trouble, too... [/quote]
 I didn't do it, man :)