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Title: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: MSTieScott on October 28, 2024, 01:32:48 PM
This week, Buzzr is featuring Halloween programming in its 12:00 noon, 1:00 p.m., and 2:00 p.m. Eastern time slots, focusing primarily on The Great Halloween Fright Fight.

Once November 1 comes around, it looks like the schedule is changing. Not only do all three of those time slots get handed over to The Great Christmas Light Fight (starting November 1, mind you), but prime time is revamped as well. 8:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. Eastern also become The Great Christmas Light Fight, 10:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. Eastern become Classic Concentration (early 1988), and 12:00 midnight Eastern becomes Card Sharks (late 1987). The same titles appear in the same time slots during the weekend, although Classic Concentration and Card Sharks are from different years.

Those changes hold through at least November 8, so it looks like that's the new schedule. Hope you like watching people decorate for Christmas!
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: davidhammett on October 28, 2024, 06:02:46 PM
Blech.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: Matt Ottinger on October 28, 2024, 07:02:29 PM
Is this the first time that The Great Christmas Light Fight has aired on Buzzr?  I was astonished to see that it's been running for eleven seasons.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: snowpeck on October 28, 2024, 08:17:23 PM
Is this the first time that The Great Christmas Light Fight has aired on Buzzr?  I was astonished to see that it's been running for eleven seasons.
They ran a handful of episodes a few years ago, but this is the first time it's been on the actual schedule.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 28, 2024, 10:36:32 PM
Bah humbug.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: KrisW73 on October 29, 2024, 09:36:56 AM
I'd rather watch AstroTurf grow.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: TimK2003 on October 29, 2024, 01:34:58 PM
Would be a better, odder fit for GSN than Buzzr

/or The Weather Channel.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: BrandonFG on October 29, 2024, 02:56:39 PM
That’s a very random pickup. Don’t hate it or anything, but I don’t get it either.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: BillCullen1 on October 29, 2024, 07:54:46 PM
I could understand if they scheduled this on weekends, but in prime time every night?? If I was a Buzzr exec, I would have fought to move Barker's TPIR to prime time.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: chrisholland03 on October 30, 2024, 06:29:52 AM
If I was a Buzzr exec, I would have fought to move Barker's TPIR to prime time.

Not worth the energy as long as CBS has a remote notion of scheduling Prime Time Price.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: rwalker on October 31, 2024, 06:13:28 PM
Where's the 40000 hours of shows they claimed to have?
Wait, I bet many tape are lost or degraded to poor quality. Yeah. I think they've played their cards over 9 years and there isn't much left to run
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: Allstar87 on October 31, 2024, 08:21:08 PM
Where's the 40000 hours of shows they claimed to have?
Wait, I bet many tape are lost or degraded to poor quality. Yeah. I think they've played their cards over 9 years and there isn't much left to run

I wonder how much of an impact Mark Deetjen's passing had on the channel...I noticed that not long after he did, they cut down on the number of shows they had on the lineup, started scheduling more shows in hour-long blocks, and haven't done Lost & Fun to the same frequency as they did before. (Definitely not complaining about what they ARE showing though, '91 Classic Concentration and '84 Barker Price are still absolute delights!)

At any rate, even if they did stick to shows they already have, there's still plenty of stuff they could show. There's still oodles of Dawson Feud they've yet to air, for one. It's just a matter of converting it.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: TLEberle on October 31, 2024, 10:02:34 PM
That's a pity. Obviously someone like a Bob Boden couldn't run GSN forever, but you can certainly see a line where there's acquisitions, originals, specials and such, and what has now become Warehouse Club Brand originals and largely set-it-and-forget-it.

Buzzr doesn't have originals, and they only have one conglomerate to draw from so eventually ten years on everything is going to feel stale, but there was a time where I loved having Sale of the Century as a wind-down to my day at the office, and I wonder how much they'll do. We'll find out.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: rwalker on November 01, 2024, 06:34:24 PM
I'm thinking maybe some of the 80s tapes may have degraded by now too. We know there's several Tpir that were skipped. So the same could be said about buzzr. Aren't there any daytime SOTC they could air? Or did they trash those too?
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: BrandonFG on November 01, 2024, 07:38:53 PM
The last year of the NBC run exists, and has aired on both Buzzr and GSN.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 01, 2024, 08:34:02 PM
The just under 400 episodes of Sale that they're run are all that's available in an airable format (or that may be around period depending on the rumors about the Grundy vaults in Australia, although if they're there they'd need time consuming transfers).  The January 1983 to July 1988 NBC shows have not been available for reruns as far back as when USA got the show in the early 90s. Except for one or two episodes, Buzzr and USA have now rerun the exact same set of eps, and GSN aired a subset of those. As far as I know, Sale is the most recent network series with significant portions of it's run missing. [Tangent: 2nd most recent, wildly, is Daytime Wheel, which is only complete from 1985-91].

In the online streaming era, they get exact data about who's watching what, when, and how (compared to the fuzzy math of Nielsen back in the day).  The shows that have clicked with viewers they've basically run the entirety of save only a small # of eps (80s LMAD, Match Game, Supermarket Sweep, Classic Concentration, Press Your Luck) or have at least run significant portions of (Password Plus, Super Password, Perry and Eubanks CS).

In a couple of cases (Dawson Feud being the main one) a show has gone on so long that even if they've run a LOT of it, it still just scratches the surface. Since someone mentioned it specifically: They've aired approx 800 eps of Dawson Feud. Just under 200 shows from 1980, around 100 from 1981, all of 1982 [just over 250], the first 100ish from 1983, 40 from 1985, and scattered shows from the 1970s and the nighttime run.    That's more than any show they've run other than Match Game, Classic Concentration, or Supermarket Sweep.  But because that version of the show went on for nine years at 250 shows per year (with 1976/85 being half that) PLUS the mostly un-run nighttime run, it feels like they've aired significantly less than they have even though it's 4th in cumulative episodes.

The channel gets miniscule ad rates on traditional TV, and they only get a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of whatever a service like Pluto does in ad rev (if they get a cut at all). Compared to other similar networks Buzzr saves a lot of money since they've owned the overwhelming majority of shows they've aired (90s Newlywed being the biggest, longest-lasting exception) but they're still operating on a comparative shoestring, transferring things to contemporary media formats takes time and labor (and $$), and they have data from streaming on what people actually watch, and in general it's the shows they've already run a lot of.




Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: chad1m on November 15, 2024, 01:07:22 PM
New today, the stream on Buzzr's website has The Great Christmas Light Fight airing in its scheduled spots, but the stream on alternate providers, like Pluto TV and Freevee, showed Supermarket Sweep from 12 - 1:30, and now Press Your Luck at 1:30. I would surmise that different streaming rights would be the reason, but then I don't know why they would be allowed to show it on their own site.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: snowpeck on November 15, 2024, 01:39:04 PM
New today, the stream on Buzzr's website has The Great Christmas Light Fight airing in its scheduled spots, but the stream on alternate providers, like Pluto TV and Freevee, showed Supermarket Sweep from 12 - 1:30, and now Press Your Luck at 1:30. I would surmise that different streaming rights would be the reason, but then I don't know why they would be allowed to show it on their own site.
The OTA feed has been Great Christmas Light Fight today as well. A few weeks ago, Buzzr's website switched to a stream of the OTA feed complete with Shriner's Hospital commercials and such. Not sure if that was intentional or not.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: chargeradiocom on November 15, 2024, 02:11:48 PM
New today, the stream on Buzzr's website has The Great Christmas Light Fight airing in its scheduled spots, but the stream on alternate providers, like Pluto TV and Freevee, showed Supermarket Sweep from 12 - 1:30, and now Press Your Luck at 1:30. I would surmise that different streaming rights would be the reason, but then I don't know why they would be allowed to show it on their own site.
The OTA feed has been Great Christmas Light Fight today as well. A few weeks ago, Buzzr's website switched to a stream of the OTA feed complete with Shriner's Hospital commercials and such. Not sure if that was intentional or not.
The Places & Spaces FAST channel, which runs on most of the usual free streamers (Pluto, Freevee/Prime Free, Plex, etc.) with mostly British home & garden shows, is also running Light Fight quite a bit right now. It looks like they’ve actually rebranded the channel at least through Christmas—it’s showing up in the Pluto & Plex program guides at least, as “The Great Christmas Light Fight Presented By Places & Spaces.”

And doing a little digging, apparently the Places & Spaces channel is owned by Fremantle. So, go figure.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: rwalker on November 15, 2024, 04:07:15 PM
The rest of the CC 1991 episodes start on the 25th at 10pm eastern
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: snowpeck on November 15, 2024, 09:07:00 PM
"The Great Christmas Light Fight" was replaced tonight on the stream version of Buzzr by an hour each of Classic Concentration and Card Sharks with Jim Perry. Which is odd since the Light Fight episodes that were scheduled (and still aired on the OTA feed) have already aired on the Buzzr stream.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: SRIV94 on November 17, 2024, 08:54:49 PM
The rest of the CC 1991 episodes start on the 25th at 10pm eastern
At least through 6/13/91 (TBD how far they actually go).
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: chad1m on November 18, 2024, 12:03:55 PM
Both the buzzrtv.com and affiliate feeds are showing Supermarket Sweep. There was a promo for Supermarket Sweep coming up next, followed by an "up next" bug for Supermarket Sweep on the final act of Super Password. The online guide shows Light Fight. (I don't get Buzzr OTA so I do not know what is airing there.)
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: snowpeck on November 18, 2024, 12:19:48 PM
Both the buzzrtv.com and affiliate feeds are showing Supermarket Sweep. There was a promo for Supermarket Sweep coming up next, followed by an "up next" bug for Supermarket Sweep on the final act of Super Password. The online guide shows Light Fight. (I don't get Buzzr OTA so I do not know what is airing there.)
OTA is Supermarket Sweep as well. The schedule on the website for next week has been updated as well, but everything is doubled up. Light Fight is still there on half the listings, but the other half has a totally new evening schedule that includes Password '67 and Classic Concentration from 1987 instead of the fresh episodes that had been previously scheduled. No idea what's going on.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 19, 2024, 03:41:54 AM
Usually whenever their listings have doubled up like that, it means they re-ran their schedule export but the old listings didn't get purged.

Given the recent moves to remove Light Fight from a majority of their feeds as discussed upthread, my first assumption based on the change is that it's going away completely and the second listing in each time period reflects the new/correct listing. (Removing Light Fight as well as Buzzr's making a few other minor schedule changes alongside).

Speculative, and could absolutely be wrong.  Guess we'll find out on the 25th or if the pages update again.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: snowpeck on November 19, 2024, 12:29:46 PM
Turns out the new schedule took effect yesterday, so Great Christmas Light Fight is already off the regular lineup.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 19, 2024, 04:38:16 PM
Turns out the new schedule took effect yesterday, so Great Christmas Light Fight is already off the regular lineup.

So the Christmas show didn't even make it to Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: chrisholland03 on November 19, 2024, 05:03:44 PM
Thankfully they know a turkey when they see one
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: rwalker on November 19, 2024, 09:24:34 PM
Turns out the new schedule took effect yesterday, so Great Christmas Light Fight is already off the regular lineup.

So the Christmas show didn't even make it to Thanksgiving.

Worse than the Gsn afternoon classic stunt from two years ago
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: BillCullen1 on December 04, 2024, 10:58:37 AM
Starting Monday, December 9, Buzzr is presenting seven days of Bob Barker. On December 12, which is Bob's birthday, it's all Bob all day on Buzzr. So there you go.
Title: Re: Buzzr Q4 2024
Post by: BillCullen1 on December 07, 2024, 12:09:05 AM
Buzzr's 10th annual Betty White Christmas starts on December 16. 10 days of Betty, including "all Betty all day" on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.