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Title: Plugging the next show....
Post by: carlisle96 on June 21, 2024, 02:06:07 PM
Just curious: When did the networks stop promoting the next show on the schedule during the closing credits: "Stay tuned for "Tattletales' (or whatever) next over most of these CBS stations."
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: BrandonFG on June 21, 2024, 02:47:51 PM
In the case of CBS, sometime in the 1980-81 season. I just looked up two TPiR closings from October 1980 and March of ‘81, and it was gone by that spring.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: Ian Wallis on June 21, 2024, 03:10:17 PM
The other networks stopped for the most part by the early '70s, based on w/o/c shows in the circuit.

What I remember is towards the end, once 12 noon went local on CBS, Johnny started saying "please stay tuned for Search For Tomorrow one half-hour from now on most of these CBS stations".
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: NickintheATL on June 21, 2024, 04:39:25 PM
The other networks stopped for the most part by the early '70s, based on w/o/c shows in the circuit.

What I remember is towards the end, once 12 noon went local on CBS, Johnny started saying "please stay tuned for Search For Tomorrow one half-hour from now on most of these CBS stations".
Yeah, Search for Tomorrow was the last show on Price to have that honor. Time shifting was become more and more of a thing by 1981, I'm surprised CBS kept doing it that long.

I have been watching a few shows from late 1977 where Johnny was overdubbed on this exact thing because of CBS quickly undoing time slot changes putting Match Game back in the afternoon. They had to change it back to Love of Life instead. The edits were very obvious.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: TimK2003 on June 21, 2024, 06:32:11 PM
I want to say that CBS was the last to ditch the spiel.

I think ABC was the first in the mid-70s, then NBC.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: Mr. Matté on June 21, 2024, 08:50:47 PM
I thought CBS was really the only one where the announcer would regularly do it. Money Maze for example was plugged by Jim Peck on TBSD ep that exists.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: mmb5 on June 21, 2024, 08:58:47 PM
Wouldn't the CBS demise be related to 12:00 becoming affiliate time, so there was nothing to announce.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: TimK2003 on June 21, 2024, 09:05:19 PM
I thought CBS was really the only one where the announcer would regularly do it. Money Maze for example was plugged by Jim Peck on TBSD ep that exists.

it seems ABC did a combination of on-show announcements (like mentioned above) and network booth announcers over the closing credits.  Might have been spotty due to ABC being the weakest network as many affiliates  pre-empted or time/day shifted programming,  as discussed in a previous thread. 
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: Mr. Matté on June 22, 2024, 05:08:10 AM
Yeah, now remembering further, I do recall some of those booth announcers on ABC/NBC doing the plugs. They were sually the case of the ABC guy / Brandt/Wendell/Pardo doing an aside after reading off the "Tonight on ABC/NBC" with the "Now stay tuned for Super Password with guest stars..."
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: aaron sica on June 22, 2024, 09:18:00 AM
I can say that ABC did next show plugs as late as 1990/1991.......Our local ABC affiliate (one of many that did), pre-empted MG90, and would kill the audio during the credits, but occasionally after the primetime plugs, it would sneak through - "Now stay tuned for the Match Game."

Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: That Don Guy on June 22, 2024, 10:23:48 AM
I thought CBS was really the only one where the announcer would regularly do it. Money Maze for example was plugged by Jim Peck on TBSD ep that exists.

Strange - I always remember The Money Maze being on right before The Big Showdown. That may have been part of the problem - ABC's schedule was almost completely different in the east than it was on the west; I remember Monty Hall reminding viewers that LMAD was moving to a new time in the east, but would be remaining at its 1:30 time in the west. I do remember Allen Ludden personally plugging Split Second at the end of Password, and I want to say it was early 1994 (it was definitely pre-All Stars).
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: BillCullen1 on June 22, 2024, 10:28:39 AM
I do remember Allen Ludden personally plugging Split Second at the end of Password, and I want to say it was early 1994 (it was definitely pre-All Stars).

You mean 1974.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: Ian Wallis on June 22, 2024, 03:06:06 PM
I do remember Allen Ludden personally plugging Split Second at the end of Password

I remember that too, and he especially made a point of it whenever Tom Kennedy was a guest player.  I recall at least one Split Second where Tom said "I just ran over from the other studio..."  As a kid, I believed it (although I didn't notice that it was likely a different suit he was wearing)!
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: thomas_meighan on June 22, 2024, 08:21:36 PM
Wouldn't the CBS demise be related to 12:00 becoming affiliate time, so there was nothing to announce.

On the circulating TPIR episodes from the fall of 1979, Johnny's announcement is "Stay tuned for 'Search for Tomorrow,' one half-hour from now..." (don't know if it was handled differently in the April-June 1979 timeframe). It makes me wonder if CBS was offering different Y&R feeds even before its expansion to an hour (and switch from noon to 1-2 p.m.) in February 1980.

On YT there's an episode of "Love of Life" from July 1975 and Ken Roberts does plug Y&R "following the news, over most of these CBS stations."
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: SuperMatch93 on June 23, 2024, 01:48:44 AM
Not quite the same thing, but on primetime Millionaire Regis would often mention the next show in his sign-off.
I've also seen at least one epside from 1999 where the network announcer says "Stay tuned for The Drew Carey Show, next on ABC" over the credits.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: NickintheATL on June 23, 2024, 01:56:39 AM
Not quite the same thing, but on primetime Millionaire Regis would often mention the next show in his sign-off.
I've also seen at least one epside from 1999 where the network announcer says "Stay tuned for The Drew Carey Show, next on ABC" over the credits.

Herein lies a fundamental difference in what we are talking about here.

What we are referring to on CBS et al. is the announcer/talent in studio saying it within the actual program.
The latter (as you describe) is done by a continuity/booth announcer on the night of air (or prerecorded and played back by master control) that is NOT baked into the episode.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: Kevin Prather on June 23, 2024, 12:19:50 PM
The latter (as you describe) is done by a continuity/booth announcer on the night of air (or prerecorded and played back by master control) that is NOT baked into the episode.

And I'm guessing this practice became commonplace right around the time the other practice fell off.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: danderson on June 23, 2024, 02:18:27 PM
Yeah, now remembering further, I do recall some of those booth announcers on ABC/NBC doing the plugs. They were sually the case of the ABC guy / Brandt/Wendell/Pardo doing an aside after reading off the "Tonight on ABC/NBC" with the "Now stay tuned for Super Password with guest stars..."

Back in the 60s, at least on NBC, the show announcer would do it. I remember watching a Hollywood Squares ep where Kenny Williams did the tag.

You know, I'd wish NBC would have gone back to that in the 80s- would have been interesting to hear Jay Stewart or Charlie Tuna do the "Now stay tuned for Super Password with guest stars..." or Jack Clark doing that with Scrabble or Jay Stewart/Don Morrow doing that with Classic Concentration.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: NickintheATL on June 23, 2024, 07:21:49 PM
You know, I'd wish NBC would have gone back to that in the 80s- would have been interesting to hear Jay Stewart or Charlie Tuna do the "Now stay tuned for Super Password with guest stars..." or Jack Clark doing that with Scrabble or Jay Stewart/Don Morrow doing that with Classic Concentration.
NBC's lineup, especially with affiliates moving shows around (time shifting, delaying) and shows airing on other stations altogether, or not at all. This would have made zero business sense and been very confusing to not only the viewers but to the personnel at stations as well. It was best that the practice died.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: SuperMatch93 on June 26, 2024, 02:43:00 PM
Adjacent question: was there ever an instance of Johnny Olson inviting us to "stay tuned for The Price is Right, next over most of these CBS stations?"
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: TimK2003 on June 26, 2024, 04:08:48 PM
Yeah, now remembering further, I do recall some of those booth announcers on ABC/NBC doing the plugs. They were sually the case of the ABC guy / Brandt/Wendell/Pardo doing an aside after reading off the "Tonight on ABC/NBC" with the "Now stay tuned for Super Password with guest stars..."

Back in the 60s, at least on NBC, the show announcer would do it. I remember watching a Hollywood Squares ep where Kenny Williams did it.

Even though I don't recall any of the surviving eps of 3oaM having it, I swear I've heard Don Pardo saying "Stay Tuned for 'Days of Our Lives'" at one point in the run...although it is plausible he was in the live booth announcer seat while 3oaM was on and he he said it then.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: BrandonFG on June 26, 2024, 04:25:29 PM
Adjacent question: was there ever an instance of Johnny Olson inviting us to "stay tuned for The Price is Right, next over most of these CBS stations?"
The closest I've found was Gene Wood (!) on Double Dare, which I didn't even know he announced. According to Nick and Greg Brobeck's site, DD led into TPiR starting in March 1977, but I'm not sure when Gene replaced Johnny.

The episode I found was from the last few weeks; all the March 77 eps. I found had GSN credit crunches.
Title: Re: Plugging the next show....
Post by: danderson on June 27, 2024, 08:23:27 AM
Yeah, now remembering further, I do recall some of those booth announcers on ABC/NBC doing the plugs. They were sually the case of the ABC guy / Brandt/Wendell/Pardo doing an aside after reading off the "Tonight on ABC/NBC" with the "Now stay tuned for Super Password with guest stars..."

Back in the 60s, at least on NBC, the show announcer would do it. I remember watching a Hollywood Squares ep where Kenny Williams did it.

Even though I don't recall any of the surviving eps of 3oaM having it, I swear I've heard Don Pardo saying "Stay Tuned for 'Days of Our Lives'" at one point in the run...although it is plausible he was in the live booth announcer seat while 3oaM was on and he he said it then.
Jay Stewart did it on Let's Make a Deal on NBC in the 60s. I remember because my grandmother would hear him say 'stay tuned for Days of Our Lives, next in color on NBC' during that era of LMAD (until LMAD left for ABC). Before 1965, he'd plug The Doctors, which followed LMAD (pretty sure that was the schedule then). I'll have to listen to be sure, but did Johnny O ever plug Edge of Night following daytime TTTT on CBS in the 60s?