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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: gamed121683 on January 01, 2024, 12:22:03 PM
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I don't know if anyone would have any insight into how Family Feud surveys are tabulated, but I'll still ask...
1. What happens if a survey taker gave an answer that's factually incorrect? For example, let's say the question was "Name a European country" and survey taker answered "Japan". Is it kept in? Do they not use it and dip into the reserves to see what survey taker #101 wrote?
2. Probably not so much a problem in its current iteration, but what happens if one ran into an answer that's considered...shall we say, inappropriate for air? An example for this might be "Name something that people ride". I won't give what a possible answer might be, but I'm sure you can use your imagination.
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I don't know if anyone would have any insight into how Family Feud surveys are tabulated, but I'll still ask...
1. What happens if a survey taker gave an answer that's factually incorrect? For example, let's say the question was "Name a European country" and survey taker answered "Japan". Is it kept in? Do they not use it and dip into the reserves to see what survey taker #101 wrote?
Thats probably why the "two people have to say it" rule is in effect. You can also earmark the question for Fast Money.
2. Probably not so much a problem in its current iteration, but what happens if one ran into an answer that's considered...shall we say, inappropriate for air? An example for this might be "Name something that people ride". I won't give what a possible answer might be, but I'm sure you can use your imagination.
Any time you wanna keep one answer hidden, you can use the question for Fast Money. Then the answer's result is only revealed if the contestant gives it.
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I know of at least one factually incorrect survey answer that made it on the show...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KThjiYUEpvM&t=187
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1. What happens if a survey taker gave an answer that's factually incorrect? For example, let's say the question was "Name a European country" and survey taker answered "Japan". Is it kept in? Do they not use it and dip into the reserves to see what survey taker #101 wrote?
that’s why the show surveyed 150 people. Also there’s no requirement that every answer given by two people in on the board.
2. Probably not so much a problem in its current iteration, but what happens if one ran into an answer that's considered...shall we say, inappropriate for air? An example for this might be "Name something that people ride". I won't give what a possible answer might be, but I'm sure you can use your imagination.
see above.
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there’s no requirement that every answer given by two people in on the board.
Have you read the Family Feud bible?
In the Europe/Japan example above, the answer would be discarded, mainly because no contestant would be likely to guess it.
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No of course not. But I have seen shows where the Triple round has four answers and less than 300 points on offer.
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In the Europe/Japan example above, the answer would be discarded, mainly because no contestant would be likely to guess it.
For the main game, makes sense. For Fast Money, while an unlikely response, suppose a flustered contestant says it. If two others actually did, wouldn't it be, well, dishonest not to give the credit?
But I seem to recall reading at one time that the points out of "one hundred people surveyed" are actually based on thousands of responses and scored out of a hundred according to the frequency of that response. If that is true, you'd really need two percent of your responders to have failed world geography to get the points attached, but if people really are that stupid, do you give credit to an answer that is factually incorrect?
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there’s no requirement that every answer given by two people in on the board.
Have you read the Family Feud bible?
No, but it seems probable that the second question of this episode (http://youtube.com/watch?v=VH6DR7FFH9Y) didn't get 13 unduplicated answers. Or 27 unduplicated answers in the third question of this episode (http://youtube.com/watch?v=uBr-aarMr8M).
The current version of the show is even more blatant about it, sometimes using questions where only 60-some respondents' worth of answers are displayed on the board.
2. Probably not so much a problem in its current iteration, but what happens if one ran into an answer that's considered...shall we say, inappropriate for air? An example for this might be "Name something that people ride".
You're right that the current version would go ahead and display that answer on the board.
I don't know how I'd go about looking it up, but I remember seeing a Dawson episode on Buzzr where the question began with "name a bird" and one of the answers up on the board was "bat." So I suspect that the survey results are the survey results, for better or for worse. As has already been pointed out, if the show doesn't want a weird answer to be displayed on the board, the answer threshold can be cut off before that point if it's the main game, or the question can be used in Fast Money.
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The current version of the show is even more blatant about it, sometimes using questions where only 60-some respondents' worth of answers are displayed on the board.
Is this not largely a product of them engineering the game to make a sweep of the first three rounds impossible to be sufficient to win the game, thereby mandating a round four and a surefire elimination the awkwardness of having to fill time when the game ends a round early (and, probably equally important in the eyes of the current showrunners, also ensures that the first-round question almost never has any bearing on who wins the game, which means your hook off the top is your most ridiculous question with the "you can't say that on television" responses, since you're playing it for "laughs" more than anything else)? The same goes for Fast Money. Has there ever been an instance in the current version where the first player alone could have racked up the full 200 or more?
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Is this not largely a product of them engineering the game to make a sweep of the first three rounds impossible to be sufficient to win the game, thereby mandating a round four and a surefire elimination the awkwardness of having to fill time when the game ends a round early (and, probably equally important in the eyes of the current showrunners, also ensures that the first-round question almost never has any bearing on who wins the game, which means your hook off the top is your most ridiculous question with the "you can't say that on television" responses, since you're playing it for "laughs" more than anything else)? The same goes for Fast Money. Has there ever been an instance in the current version where the first player alone could have racked up the full 200 or more?
To be excruciatingly pedantic you only have to win one question then triple or the quick draw shootout.
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2 people or 2% of people surveyed said in response to "Name a time most people go to bed" "Night"
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I've seen Howard go over the survey results. He would sometimes combine answers, e.g. "name a non-alcoholic beverage". He might combine "water" and "Perrier" into one answer if they came back on the survey.
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Have you read the Family Feud bible?
No, but I sure would be interested. Chris, do you happen to have a copy to share? I recall reading your "Password Plus" bible many years ago.
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Has there ever been an instance in the current version where the first player alone could have racked up the full 200 or more?
The show's social medias recently started sharing what the top three answers and their point values are. I quickly ran through a bunch of the most recent ones and the highest combined total of number one answers was 199. I'd hazard a guess that they're intentionally making it impossible.
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The show's social medias recently started sharing what the top three answers and their point values are.
That's interesting, because there have been times where it seemed like they were deliberately choosing five questions with low-scoring number one answers as a budget-saving measure -- I wouldn't have been surprised if the only way to win was for the teammates to give nearly exclusively number one and number two answers. Publicizing not just the top three answers but also the scores seems like an accountability measure. Have you seen any bonus rounds with abnormally low point values?
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Have you read the Family Feud bible?
No, but I sure would be interested. Chris, do you happen to have a copy to share? I recall reading your "Password Plus" bible many years ago.
Sorry, I don't.
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From one of the bibles in the 1999-present era:
"...poll respondents are chosen purely at random, from all geographic areas of the United States except the Los Angeles area. At the beginning of each question, the MC will announce how many answers on 'on the board.' This explains how many answers will be considered correct, regardless of how many answers were given to the question. In all cases, only the most popular answers will be displayed, and all answers receiving the same number of responses will be displayed if any one of them is displayed."
The latter bit is clarified by an attached question, which also confirms they poll 100 people, and not a larger sample to make a 100% percentage. The question "Name something people keep in their glove compartment" is set to be played with the top 6 answers on the board. The 7th through 9th answers got 2 responses each, but the show chose not to use them. Per their own rule -- a rule at the time mind you, it may no longer exist -- they'd have to use all of those answers, or none of them, because they had the same number of respondents. The remaining 1-point answers are there as well -- TIRE GAUGE, NOTEPAD, MACE and (shockingly, IMO anyway) SUNGLASSES.
-Jason
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they'd have to use all of those answers, or none of them, because they had the same number of respondents.
Honestly, that seems fair. If you give an answer that was tied for the Top Six, but it's "not there" only because it's not one of the tied-for-number-six they decided to put on the board for whatever reason, that's not cool, and this isn't Outburst. Dem's not da berries.
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From one of the bibles in the 1999-present era:
Cool. Thanks, Jason.
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The other thing to keep in mind that we all don't have to deal with when we try to do Feud ourselves, be it with our own surveys, or board game material: if the show has a weird set of results to a question, there's likely a boatload more material to choose from, and/or they can simply re-survey something that's wonky. A lot of posts asking "what if...?" are probably answered best by "they don't use the question" or "they re-poll it."
-Jason
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Do/did any of the various board game versions of the show over the decades ever claim that those surveys were based on 100 people?
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Do/did any of the various board game versions of the show over the decades ever claim that those surveys were based on 100 people?
Sure. And they are.
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The references to the show bible are very cool. Thanks.
One factually incorrect answer that I recall made the board: Benjamin Franklin to (paraphrasing) “name a president pictured on money.”
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One factually incorrect answer that I recall made the board: Benjamin Franklin to (paraphrasing) “name a president pictured on money.”
I wonder which producer let that one slip through. If it were Howard I'd never let him hear the end of it.