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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: cmjb13 on March 12, 2004, 08:37:24 AM
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Applies to any version:
Were family members allowed to give each other answers during the main game?
Were all 5 family members auditioned at the same time or was 1 interviewed with a follow up with the others?
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To the best of my knowledge, they were not allowed to help each other during the main game. The only senario in which families could concur is if they're not playing the question - then they could quietly discuss amongst themselves possible "steal" answers.
I believe that when families auditioned for the show, they all auditioned together.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 05:37 AM\'] Were all 5 family members auditioned at the same time or was 1 interviewed with a follow up with the others? [/quote]
Back on Dawson's ABC years the families were kept together for auditions and run-throughs; part of the magic was seeing how they would interact ("good answer!").
The contestant coordinators for that version included Beverly Pomerantz (still doing contestants), and Jerry (was that his first name?) Modine. Long since passed away, Jerry was a fave among GT employees - his name came up in idle chit chat with Kathy Greco a few months back.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 08:37 AM\'] Were family members allowed to give each other answers during the main game? [/quote]
Expressly not, no. And it seemed that by time Combs Feud rolled around, they were directly trying to keep people from cheating, by blurting out two different answers. Typically on Dawson Feud they'd either go with the first or he'd make them choose one. On Combs, the second answer became disqualified for that family to use, but it was of course still available for the other side to use in a steal.
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[quote name=\'jcompton\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 01:00 PM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 08:37 AM\'] Were family members allowed to give each other answers during the main game? [/quote]
Expressly not, no. And it seemed that by time Combs Feud rolled around, they were directly trying to keep people from cheating, by blurting out two different answers. Typically on Dawson Feud they'd either go with the first or he'd make them choose one. On Combs, the second answer became disqualified for that family to use, but it was of course still available for the other side to use in a steal.[/quote]
While we're on this topic, does anyone know why they stopped doing the "huddle" and just had Ray go down the line and ask each family member for a suggestion for the steal?
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This is a point that's made VERY clear on the British version - after the face off, Les would always tell the winner to "rejoin your family, NO CONFERING!!"
So there it is.
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 12:56 PM\'] The contestant coordinators for that version included Beverly Pomerantz (still doing contestants) [/quote]
Tramp!
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 01:36 PM\'] While we're on this topic, does anyone know why they stopped doing the "huddle" and just had Ray go down the line and ask each family member for a suggestion for the steal? [/quote]
Whatever the reason was, it was a bad one. It was because of this that the adolescent heckling started.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 02:34 PM\'] [quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 01:36 PM\'] While we're on this topic, does anyone know why they stopped doing the "huddle" and just had Ray go down the line and ask each family member for a suggestion for the steal? [/quote]
Whatever the reason was, it was a bad one. It was because of this that the adolescent heckling started. [/quote]
I didn't like that decision either, but mainly because it was time consuming, and family members often repeated answers down the line. The huddle was simple enough, all they would've had to do was sound the time-up buzzer.
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 01:36 PM\'][quote name=\'jcompton\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 01:00 PM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 08:37 AM\'] Were family members allowed to give each other answers during the main game? [/quote]
Expressly not, no. And it seemed that by time Combs Feud rolled around, they were directly trying to keep people from cheating, by blurting out two different answers. Typically on Dawson Feud they'd either go with the first or he'd make them choose one. On Combs, the second answer became disqualified for that family to use, but it was of course still available for the other side to use in a steal.[/quote]
While we're on this topic, does anyone know why they stopped doing the "huddle" and just had Ray go down the line and ask each family member for a suggestion for the steal?[/quote]
Going down the line for a suggested steal was all throughout the Combs version, from Day One, along with dropping the pass-or-play option.
And don't they go down the line on "100 Mexicanos Dijeron" instead of huddling--or do they do both?
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 15 2004, 07:52 PM\'][quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 01:36 PM\'][quote name=\'jcompton\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 01:00 PM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Mar 12 2004, 08:37 AM\'] Were family members allowed to give each other answers during the main game? [/quote]
Expressly not, no. And it seemed that by time Combs Feud rolled around, they were directly trying to keep people from cheating, by blurting out two different answers. Typically on Dawson Feud they'd either go with the first or he'd make them choose one. On Combs, the second answer became disqualified for that family to use, but it was of course still available for the other side to use in a steal.[/quote]
While we're on this topic, does anyone know why they stopped doing the "huddle" and just had Ray go down the line and ask each family member for a suggestion for the steal?[/quote]
Going down the line for a suggested steal was all throughout the Combs version, from Day One, along with dropping the pass-or-play option.[/quote]
I understood that. I just meant they stopped doing the huddle when they started Ray's version.
I'd still like someone to explain this. Dropping "pass or play?" makes sense; this doesn't.
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A huddle would lead to a consensus, so why have one and then have each team member come up with a different answer? One advantage here is that the fourth or fifth person in a challenging family got a little face time beyond the intro.
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A huddle would lead to a consensus, so why have one and then have each team member come up with a different answer?
A guess a pet peeve of mine is that quite often on the Dawson Feud, families would huddle together. Then, when it came time to line up again and give Richard the answer, there was still a lot of indecision and they couldn't figure out what to give. What was all that huddling for if they hadn't decided by the time they got back in line?
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 04:00 PM\'] A guess a pet peeve of mine is that quite often on the Dawson Feud, families would huddle together. Then, when it came time to line up again and give Richard the answer, there was still a lot of indecision and they couldn't figure out what to give. What was all that huddling for if they hadn't decided by the time they got back in line? [/quote]
What's worse is when they've finished huddling and then ask Richard to "repeat the question." I remember once when this happened and Richard, obviously angered at this blatent stall, asked what the hell they were talking about the whole time.
You've gotta love the show for the people on there!
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I would guess one reason was the occasional humor in the rejected answers. And even if it really took longer than the huddle (and it couldn't be more than a couple of seconds longer unless something interesting happened) it feels like they're moving faster.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 15 2004, 07:52 PM\'] And don't they go down the line on "100 Mexicanos Dijeron" instead of huddling--or do they do both? [/quote]
When I started watching, 100MD did use the Combs style, but eventually switched to the huddle, which is still in practice now.
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I would guess one reason was the occasional humor in the rejected answers.
...such as the 1989 episode where a contestant on a stealing family, when asked "Name something that falls from trees", gave the answer "Bird sh(insert strike buzzer here)", leading to one of the biggest laughs ever.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 15 2004, 07:52 PM\'] And don't they go down the line on "100 Mexicanos Dijeron" instead of huddling--or do they do both? [/quote]
I don't get a channel with the show anymore... but has there ever been any research put into getting that guy to host the US Feud? Quite frankly, I don't even care if he speaks English, I still think it would result in the best Feud we've seen in a decade. :)
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Another question...... Why wasn't the family given the pass or play option in the face off? This was the only version where they weren't given a choice!
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Another question...why give it to them in the first place? We already went over why passing is such a rotten notion. I forget, did we find any good to passing that wasn't refuted?
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Mar 21 2004, 01:17 AM\'] I forget, did we find any good to passing that wasn't refuted? [/quote]
Well, no matter what anyone says to refute this, I'll still maintain this position: Passing is something that should only be used rarely, but can be used strategically. Example, there was a question tonight about famous redheads. If you know your team doesn't know many redheads, and there are six answers on the board, it's very advantageous to pass. You'll more than likely get it back when you try to steal, and by then, you would have huddled.
Brandon Brooks
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Passing is something that should only be used rarely, but can be used strategically.
Hmmm...it does work strategically, but there is a second way to take that idea you mentioned. What if the other team knows redheads so well that they nail all of the answers for a quick $97, for example?
Of course, you don't know this, but you do know your team is clueless. You can dodge the bullet by playing and knocking down whatever feeble answers your team has. One of two things then happen: your team nets a small bank because they couldn't steal or the other team gets a small bank because they got an easy answer you missed because of your inexperience on the topic.
It's really a gamble to play it the way you described because they may completely eliminate your answers giving them a huge score. If you gained control of a question your team knows seemingly nothing about, odds are you can spare this playing about with a small bank to gain a larger one later.
Then again, you could be passing to a team overanalyzing the game so much like myself, that they forget the question and get buzzed for time. :)
-Jason
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BTW, I left out in my last past that the only version to have no pass/play option was the Combs version.
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I've mentioned this story before, but it bears repeating. I saw a rare instance where a team passed, and I thought it might have been a good strategy.
On a celebrity edition (Perfect 10's, I think), the question arose, "Name a female tennis player." (There were 6 answers on the board.) Tracy Austin was one of the players on the team that had control. They passed, which I thought was a good strategy, although I seem to recall that they were unable to steal. In hindsight, I think it would have been a good strategy if there were more answers on the board, because there would have been more answers remaining when it came back to them. In that situation, Tracy would have been in a good position to come up with one of the answers lower on the board.
So, I would say that one rare situation where it can be a good idea to pass is if there are likely to be a lot of answers remaining and one player on your team has lots of knowledge of the topic.
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Hmm...
I just watched a "Perfect 10s" episode last week from a tape that I had recorded. Anyways, Tracy Austin was on one of the teams, that "Female tennis player" question came up, and Tracy's team took control. When Richard got to Tracy to ask for an answer, she timidly replied, "Tracy Austin?"
Did Tracy appear on two seperate celebrity weeks? Because if your story is true, I doubt that they would have asked the same question twice in the span of one tapeing day.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Mar 18 2004, 10:51 AM\'] ...such as the 1989 episode where a contestant on a stealing family, when asked "Name something that falls from trees", gave the answer "Bird sh(insert strike buzzer here)", leading to one of the biggest laughs ever.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
Hilarity courtesy of Ray!
I saw that *very* clip not too long ago
on a version of "TV's Funniest Game Show
Moments." I thought Ray's response to
the contestant was even FUNNIER!!
"I'm glad COWS don't fly!"
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I wasn't a big fan of going down the line for the steal answers. Most of the time, it had a rushed feel to it (and that probably was the intent). The huddle makes the game have more of a family-participation feel, IMHO.
100MD only huddles now. Much better!
Now, if FremantleMedia would take a cue from our neighbors to the South...we would have an even BETTER feud!
Matthew
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[quote name=\'mparrish11\' date=\'Mar 22 2004, 11:13 AM\'] 100MD only huddles now. Much better!
Now, if FremantleMedia would take a cue from our neighbors to the South...we would have an even BETTER feud! [/quote]
Huh? Our Feud huddles too.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Mar 21 2004, 05:20 PM\'] BTW, I left out in my last past that the only version to have no pass/play option was the Combs version. [/quote]
What about the Dawson '94 version?
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Mar 22 2004, 05:13 PM\'] [quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Mar 21 2004, 05:20 PM\'] BTW, I left out in my last past that the only version to have no pass/play option was the Combs version. [/quote]
What about the Dawson '94 version? [/quote]
The play/pass option wasn't used in the 1994-95 season either.
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Okie-doke. That's what I thought.
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[quote name=\'MCArroyo1\' date=\'Mar 21 2004, 09:09 PM\'] Hmm...
I just watched a "Perfect 10s" episode last week from a tape that I had recorded. Anyways, Tracy Austin was on one of the teams, that "Female tennis player" question came up, and Tracy's team took control. When Richard got to Tracy to ask for an answer, she timidly replied, "Tracy Austin?"
Did Tracy appear on two seperate celebrity weeks? Because if your story is true, I doubt that they would have asked the same question twice in the span of one tapeing day. [/quote]
I was mistaken. I thought I remembered them passing, but what I remembered was only thinking that this would be a good time to pass.
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Mar 22 2004, 12:17 PM\'] [quote name=\'mparrish11\' date=\'Mar 22 2004, 11:13 AM\'] 100MD only huddles now. Much better!
Now, if FremantleMedia would take a cue from our neighbors to the South...we would have an even BETTER feud! [/quote]
Huh? Our Feud huddles too.
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Sorry about that, let me clear that line up..... I meant it to be for the entire show..... Don't get me wrong, FF now is a GREAT show, but I feel that it could be better. <nostalgic feeling>Seeing 100MD really threw me back to the good old days of the Combs' Feud. </nostalgic feeling>