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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: calliaume on February 12, 2004, 12:50:55 PM
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Dates: 12/64-9/65
Time: 11:30 a.m. Eastern
Shows: Jeopardy! on NBC (with Art Fleming), The Price Is Right on ABC (with Bill Cullen)
Although I was alive at this time, I was two years old, so I didn't have to make the call. Given I was watching Jeopardy! in 1967, I probably would have done so in '65 as well.
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This was before cable, so since the NBC station came in clearly at our house and the ABC affil did not, we just kept it on the NBC station no matter what was on. So when TPIR and "Missing Links" moved to ABC, they also moved off our TV. I do remember getting excited that Bill was gonna be back on NBC for "Eye Guess." Later in the sixties, a wonderful world of television was opened up when visiting relatives and finding out there were other channels.
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No contest. Jeopardy! wins. Price Is Right is a tired boring format. I don't see it ever coming back.
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For me, "Jeopardy" would be it. I remember watching it when I was very young. The only version of "Price" I remember from my younger days was Barker's - I'm a little too young to remember Bill's - and I'd love to see some more Art Fleming at his peak!
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IIRC, we didn't have the option in Green Bay - the ABC station gave up its morning time to in-school television (this was before a public TV station came to the area, so 9-noon became educational time.) So it was Art and Don Pardo by default. I barely remember TPIR's nighttime version.
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Definitely Jeopardy.
I am trying to make this decision with no knowledge of the future (i.e. seven years later when TPiR debuted with a more exciting format)...
Whereas Jeopardy is a quiz show where everyone can play along and there is always excitement, TPiR is the same game - bid on an item, that's it. Very repetitive..
I would imagine the affiliates in my TV market broadcasted both shows at the time, but I wasn't alive then, so I'm not sure.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Feb 12 2004, 12:50 PM\'] Dates: 12/64-9/65
Time: 11:30 a.m. Eastern
Shows: Jeopardy! on NBC (with Art Fleming), The Price Is Right on ABC (with Bill Cullen)
Although I was alive at this time, I was two years old, so I didn't have to make the call. Given I was watching Jeopardy! in 1967, I probably would have done so in '65 as well. [/quote]
As much as I'd like to see how the original Price worked, I can't argue with a good Q&A (or in this case, vice versa).
Jeopardy! wins, tho I might check out one round of Price.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Feb 12 2004, 01:50 PM\'] Shows: Jeopardy! on NBC (with Art Fleming), The Price Is Right on ABC (with Bill Cullen) [/quote]
Why do I think you picked this one to torment me specifically?
In the end, it's an easy choice. Best game show ever tops best game show host ever. Assuming (aren't we?) that we're old enough to appreciate them and not, as I was at the time, five years old, I'm watching Jeopardy. Maybe I check out TPIR once in a while if I like the celebrity guest.
Ask me this question in a month, though, and my choice might change.
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I don't think I even had any memory of "Price" being on ABC then. The two affiliates I had during the ABC years may have shifted or bumped it anyway.
My introduction to Jeopardy! came in grade school when they brought a TV in to utilize the educational channel a couple of notches away from the NBC station. It had gotten switched to J! likely by some kid while the teacher was out of the room; I didn't even know the name of the show till I saw a promo at home in the evening for it, and when I heard the contestants answering with "What is?" or "Who is?", I thought they were just being obnoxious. That's what happened as a result of my having folks who--when I was looking for something or asking why we didn't have a certain type of something we had a lesser version of--used to point to the object on hand and say "What's that?" (to which my response was often, "I know what it *isn't*").
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Under normal circumstances, it would be "thank you audience, thank you players, thank you Don Pardo..." with no hesitation. However, I was living in the Philadelphia area back then--and midway through 1965 the FCC forced NBC and Westinghouse to switch their Philadelphia and Cleveland stations, sending NBC to Cleveland and changing that station's call letters to WKYC from KYW, while Westinghouse took the KYW calls with them to Philadelphia, replacing NBC's WCRV. They also brought Mike Douglas with them--and then set up a noon newscast anchored by some guy named Tom Snyder (nothing happened to him, huh?) and a Philly TV veteran named Marciarose (that was her air name). All this meant that if I wanted to watch "J!", I would've waited a year until my parents put a roof antenna on the home to pick up the UHF stations (and WPHL carried the NBC lineup from noon to two).
Unfortunately, I don't remember if WFIL picked up "TPIR" at noon. Didn't really watch that station much, except for the glance at Sally Starr in the afternoon when my mother wasn't looking (she had banned me from watching cartoons back then).
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 12 2004, 04:30 PM\'] and then set up a noon newscast anchored by some guy named Tom Snyder (nothing happened to him, huh?) [/quote]
These days he's very sick. colortini.com tells it all.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 12 2004, 04:30 PM\']
Unfortunately, I don't remember if WFIL picked up "TPIR" at noon. Didn't really watch that station much, except for the glance at Sally Starr in the afternoon when my mother wasn't looking (she had banned me from watching cartoons back then).
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WFIL (now WPVI of course) has seemingly had noon news for a long, long time as evidenced by the listings in some of my old TV Guides...
Although for a good number of years they did air the noon ABC show, just at a different time (11:00 a.m. in the late '70s, and they would air FF at 11:30 a.m. in the '80s, until "Loving" came along)....
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No contest...Jeopardy!
Even though I was still about two decades away from being born, the only reason I even watched Bill's TPIR was the fact that the prices were just so not like today's at all that it made a good (and sometimes laughable) comparison point!. Other than that, though, I found nothing terribly too exciting about the game itself.
Jeopardy!, on the other hand, was a fresh quiz show with an excellent twist, and I think that alone would've had me watching (I'm partial to quiz shows, anyway).
Anthony
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Given only what was known about the shows at the time, I'm with everyone else. The answer is, it's not even a contest.
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Even though I was a baby as well, my vote would go to Jeopardy!
Everytime the DAILY DOUBLE was picked, a sharp G ship's bell was heard clanging! It's also the same ship bell used on The Match Game when...
1). A team won 100 points.
2). The home player & studio audience member won the telephone jackpot. For a 5 year old, I remember the most ever won was $2,600!
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No doubt it would be "Jeopardy" because of:
1) the fresh game play and difficulty of the clues to come up with the questions.
2) a definitive play along factor here.
3) Art Fleming's hosting style---he was tops during the entire original NBC run.
As for the original "Price", it was beginning to run out of steam at the time, which is why NBC took it off its air and ABC received it, only to have it air another two years before going off. Yes, the original was fun, but the current CBS run still has plenty of life left in it with new pricing games coming each year.