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Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: Particleman on February 05, 2004, 03:27:06 PM
What's the difference between Family Feud Challenge and New Family Feud?  Did they just change names at some point?  Where there different rules?  This is going to determine what I name the revamed Flash game I'm working on.
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: uncamark on February 05, 2004, 03:29:21 PM
[quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 03:27 PM\']What's the difference between Family Feud Challenge and New Family Feud?  Did they just change names at some point?  Where there different rules?  This is going to determine what I name the revamed Flash game I'm working on.[/quote]
"Family Feud Challenge"--One-hour network show, with two families playing the first half-hour to meet the champs in the second half-hour.

"New Family Feud"--Half-hour syndicated show, with returning champions.

Basically, that's the difference.  They both aired at the same time and MGP and A-A changed the title to "New Feud" to emphasize the addition of Bullseye (and perhaps because of the new syndicator).
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: BrandonFG on February 05, 2004, 04:09:27 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 03:29 PM\'] [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 03:27 PM\']What's the difference between Family Feud Challenge and New Family Feud?  Did they just change names at some point?  Where there different rules?  This is going to determine what I name the revamed Flash game I'm working on.[/quote]
"Family Feud Challenge"--One-hour network show, with two families playing the first half-hour to meet the champs in the second half-hour.

"New Family Feud"--Half-hour syndicated show, with returning champions.

Basically, that's the difference.  They both aired at the same time and MGP and A-A changed the title to "New Feud" to emphasize the addition of Bullseye (and perhaps because of the new syndicator). [/quote]
I'm a bit confused since Norfolk never aired the Feud Challenge, just syndie Feud (as of 1992).

Was there a Bullseye round played in both halves of the show, and were there two Fast Money games, one per half, or was the first half of the show played to an extended dollar figure?
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: uncamark on February 05, 2004, 04:23:28 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 04:09 PM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 03:29 PM\'] [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 03:27 PM\']What's the difference between Family Feud Challenge and New Family Feud?  Did they just change names at some point?  Where there different rules?  This is going to determine what I name the revamed Flash game I'm working on.[/quote]
"Family Feud Challenge"--One-hour network show, with two families playing the first half-hour to meet the champs in the second half-hour.

"New Family Feud"--Half-hour syndicated show, with returning champions.

Basically, that's the difference.  They both aired at the same time and MGP and A-A changed the title to "New Feud" to emphasize the addition of Bullseye (and perhaps because of the new syndicator). [/quote]
I'm a bit confused since Norfolk never aired the Feud Challenge, just syndie Feud (as of 1992).

Was there a Bullseye round played in both halves of the show, and were there two Fast Money games, one per half, or was the first half of the show played to an extended dollar figure?[/quote]
Both halves were exactly the same in rules--same Bullseye round, same 300-point games, same Fast Money.  "Challenge" also had a second full opening ("let's meet the Smith family...") for the second half-hour for those stations that didn't carry the entire hour.  Don't recall if Combs announced the winnings for the challengers in the second half at the top of the show.

To clarify, "Challenge" was an hour show, but CBS affils could just run the last half-hour only if they wished.  Don't know if there were network spots in the first half-hour or not or if they were all local spots then.
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: whewfan on February 05, 2004, 05:03:28 PM
Because of the Bullseye round, they changed the scoring to one single round, one double round, and two triple rounds. So, it was common to win after the third round, as opposed to the previous version of Combs Feud, where they needed 4 or 5 rounds.

Also, Ray had some difficulty with the timing. By the fourth round, he's literally rushing like crazy, reminding the families that they MUST move quickly.
Oddly enough, they were willing to make some changes to allow Richard Dawson to move the game at his own pace when he returned. Richard had time to give a short monologue and personally greet each family member, where Ray didn't have that luxury.
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: adamjk on February 05, 2004, 05:36:28 PM
Did the syndie version before the Bullseye round was introduced, have returning champs?

Also, did they still do monthly tournaments once the Bullseye round was introduced?
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: ChuckNet on February 05, 2004, 06:48:42 PM
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Did the syndie version before the Bullseye round was introduced, have returning champs?

Yes...just like the daytime version, champs were allowed to stay on for a maximum of 5 shows.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: JasonA1 on February 05, 2004, 07:16:22 PM
And IIRC, the first half Bullseye values were halved, meaning they started with 2500, working on questions worth 500/1000/1500/2000 and 2500?

-Jason
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: zachhoran on February 05, 2004, 07:37:17 PM
[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 05:36 PM\']
Also, did they still do monthly tournaments once the Bullseye round was introduced? [/quote]
 Nope. THe SYndie Feud stopped doing the TofC's in 1990 or 1991 as I recall, but the daytime Feud continued doing the Monthly tournament through mid-1992, when the show expanded to an hour on CBS.

One other difference from the 1988-92 Feud to the 1992-95 Bullseye era Feuds: No more five match limit for families, families could now stay until defeated.
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: gameshowguy2000 on February 05, 2004, 07:51:00 PM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 06:16 PM\'] And IIRC, the first half Bullseye values were halved, meaning they started with 2500, working on questions worth 500/1000/1500/2000 and 2500?

-Jason [/quote]
And they were used on BOTH versions before being doubled?

And per Travis's FF page, when the Bullseye format came around, so did the "add the value of the stolen answer to the bank" rule.
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: BrandonFG on February 05, 2004, 07:53:53 PM
[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 07:51 PM\'] [quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 06:16 PM\'] And IIRC, the first half Bullseye values were halved, meaning they started with 2500, working on questions worth 500/1000/1500/2000 and 2500?

-Jason [/quote]
And they were used on BOTH versions before being doubled? [/quote]
I think what he's saying is that the $500/1000/1500/2000/2500 was only on the first half of the Feud Challenge.

The syndie version and second half of the Challenge used $1000/2000/3000/4000/5000 and the families started with a minimum $5000 bank.
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: zachhoran on February 05, 2004, 07:55:39 PM
[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 07:51 PM\']

And per Travis's FF page, when the Bullseye format came around, so did the "add the value of the stolen answer to the bank" rule. [/quote]
 Also at that time, they discontinued converting maingame points to dollars.
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: gameshowguy2000 on February 05, 2004, 08:19:54 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 06:55 PM\'] [quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 07:51 PM\']

And per Travis's FF page, when the Bullseye format came around, so did the "add the value of the stolen answer to the bank" rule. [/quote]
Also at that time, they discontinued converting maingame points to dollars. [/quote]
And you mentioned that was a mistake that Chris Lambert made on his FF page, when he mentioned that the "points to cash" thing was discontinued when the 1999 version began, right?
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: Particleman on February 05, 2004, 09:22:40 PM
In New Family Feud, a family who stole the bank was awarded both the points in the bank and the points from the answer they guessed.  Same as the Family Feud Challenge?

I just put out FFPS 3.1 a few minutes ago and I'm ready to start on the next game.  :-)  Thanks for the help.
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: Card Shark on February 05, 2004, 09:48:31 PM
[quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 09:22 PM\'] In New Family Feud, a family who stole the bank was awarded both the points in the bank and the points from the answer they guessed.  Same as the Family Feud Challenge?

I just put out FFPS 3.1 a few minutes ago and I'm ready to start on the next game.  :-)  Thanks for the help. [/quote]
 When will this be up on your site? I just tried going to it and downloaded and it said it was still the 3.0 version.
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: clemon79 on February 06, 2004, 12:00:41 AM
[quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Feb 5 2004, 07:22 PM\'] I just put out FFPS 3.1 a few minutes ago and I'm ready to start on the next game.  :-)  Thanks for the help. [/quote]
 Pyramid! Pyramid! :)
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: TLEberle on February 06, 2004, 12:08:22 AM
I also would like to see a program to run Pyramid.

In any event, don't take anything on any of my webpages to be the gospel truth.  There's bound to be mistakes all over.  I haven't done significant updates for a while.  I think the information regarding adding points to the value of the bank came from a post on ATGS from eons ago, regarding the different ways that the rounds were worth single, double or triple.

Travis
Title: FF Challenge/New FF
Post by: HYHYBT on February 06, 2004, 03:18:44 PM
The second half of Family Feud Challenge was exactly like the New Family Feud except the opening was slightly different. The first half was like the second half but with dollar values halved and an extra single-point question (since there was no closing segment) and with two new families.