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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Casey Buck on September 03, 2018, 03:20:45 PM
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In addition to the exciting news about Classic Concentration, I got an email from their newsletter that also says:
LOST & FOUND returns! This month, for two days only, BUZZR is airing new hand-picked episodes from the game show vault. Tune-in Saturday 9/29 & Sunday 9/30, 4P - 8P ET.
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Buzzr has posted (https://www.facebook.com/BUZZRplay/posts/2099934006890050) what will be in the lineup:
To Tell The Truth '73
Password '66
What's My Line '72
What's My Line 25th Anniversary Show
Classic Concentration
I've Got a Secret '72 - Steve Allen
He Said She Said
The Better Sex
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I wonder if there will be anything particularly noteworthy or significant about the TTTT, IGAS, WML or Password they've decided to make a part of this. I doubt He Said She Said or The Better Sex will be anything we haven't already seen, but certainly they're "lost" shows by Buzzr standards. The other four, though, are extremely famous titles, and I'm not sure they qualify as 'lost' just because this particular version of them is making its way to Buzzr for the first time.
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If they want "lost", we should sell them our print of It's Your Move!
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Is the full run of The Better Sex intact? Seems that GSN had only shown a handful of episodes, and there are a couple of pilots out there, AFAIK. I don't think I ever heard that most of the eps were gone.
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If they want "lost", we should sell them our print of It's Your Move!
If they wanted to really go "lost", anything "Reg Grundy not $ale of the Century" could fit.
We know the complicated case of Scrabble, and I would not be shocked if Scattergories is in a similar limbo given Hasbro's ownership of that board game. But Fremantle must still have the tapes of Time Machine, Hot Streak, and Small Talk somewhere, yes?
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We know the complicated case of Scrabble, and I would not be shocked if Scattergories is in a similar limbo given Hasbro's ownership of that board game. But Fremantle must still have the tapes of Time Machine, Hot Streak, and Small Talk somewhere, yes?
Those would all be great additions to the lineup. :) The only issue I can see with Time Machine is their extensive use of music clips.
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Regarding Classic Concentration, maybe it's their "test" show?
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The other four, though, are extremely famous titles, and I'm not sure they qualify as 'lost' just because this particular version of them is making its way to Buzzr for the first time.
I think it may just be the fact that they haven’t been seen anywhere on a regular basis in 18 years, and Concentration being last seen nearly 25 years ago. Most of the shows used during L&F are very familiar to us as huge fans, so it’s my best guess that their time off the air in those versions defines them as “lost”.
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Regarding Classic Concentration, maybe it's their "test" show?
That's what I'm thinking too. It's one of the few G-T properties that hasn't seen a revival, and part of me wonders if it requires too much (wait for it) concentration from the audience at home, compared to 30 years ago.
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I know the last Lost & Found had some repeat pilots, etc. Were there any new pilots in the last event?
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I'm curious to see what episodes they pull out for most of these. The Better Sex is definitely a surprise, in any case. :)
I know the last Lost & Found had some repeat pilots, etc. Were there any new pilots in the last event?
Right off the top of my head, Missing Links and Wordplay were definitely new.
[EDIT: Looking at my notes, those were the only ones, though It's News To Me kinda skirts the line.]
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I know the last Lost & Found had some repeat pilots, etc. Were there any new pilots in the last event?
Here's the schedule from last year and related conversation:
http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,29651.msg360146.html#msg360146
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Buzzr's online schedule goes far enough to show the Lost & Found schedule now.
9/29:
4PM: To Tell the Truth #1554 (1973)
4:30: To Tell the Truth #1512 (1973)
5PM: Password #0001 - Barbara Bain, Brian Keith (1966)
5:30: Password #0012 - Carol Burnett, Ross Martin (1966)
6PM: What's My Line #2011 - Mystery Guest: Wally Bruner (1973)
6:30: What's My Line at 25 (1975)
9/30:
4PM: Classic Concentration #0001 (5/4/87)
4:30: Classic Concentration #0002 (5/5/87)
5PM: I've Got a Secret #0012 - Bob Barker (1972)
5:30: I've Got a Secret #0025 - Allen Ludden (1972)
6PM: He Said, She Said #0141 (1970)
6:30: He Said, She Said #0177 (1970)
7PM: The Better Sex #0101 (1977)
7:30: The Better Sex #0082 (1977)
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Buzzr's online schedule goes far enough to show the Lost & Found schedule now.
9/29:
4PM: To Tell the Truth #1554 (1973)
4:30: To Tell the Truth #1512 (1973)
I'm having a feeling that these will be the Orville Reddenbacher and Richard Buggy episodes just based off if the infamy involved.
6PM: He Said, She Said #0141 (1970)
6:30: He Said, She Said #0177 (1970)
Might these be the episodes that Buzzr aired a couple of years ago?
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Buzzr's online schedule goes far enough to show the Lost & Found schedule now.
9/29:
4PM: To Tell the Truth #1554 (1973)
4:30: To Tell the Truth #1512 (1973)
I'm having a feeling that these will be the Orville Reddenbacher and Richard Buggy episodes just based off if the infamy involved.
You’re half right. 1512 is the Reddenbacher ep, but 1554 is the dog food ep.
The Buggy ep was 1724 (1973-74 season).
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Buzzr's online schedule goes far enough to show the Lost & Found schedule now.
9/29:
4PM: To Tell the Truth #1554 (1973)
4:30: To Tell the Truth #1512 (1973)
I'm having a feeling that these will be the Orville Reddenbacher and Richard Buggy episodes just based off if the infamy involved.
You’re half right. 1512 is the Reddenbacher ep, but 1554 is the dog food ep.
The Buggy ep was 1724 (1973-74 season).
I thought that the set change from the "less mod" set to the blue and white set came with the start of 1973-74? Or did they do it mid-stream that season rather than switch the set alongside with the studio (Ed Sullivan to NBC 6A) and announcer (Johnny Olson to Bill Wendell)?
I had a feeling that if it wasn't one of those, it was the dog food episode. Thanks!
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They were already at 30 Rock by then. I believe they moved in 1972 (not sure whether it was the 1971-72 season or the 1972-73 season), but Johnny did announce some of the shows at 30 Rock.
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They were already at 30 Rock by then. I believe they moved in 1972 (not sure whether it was the 1971-72 season or the 1972-73 season), but Johnny did announce some of the shows at 30 Rock.
Some YouTube-snooping (https://bit.ly/2Nj49zX) points to 1971 as the year they moved. The set change must've happened around that time; I'd have to think the psychedelic set would not have fit in 6A (or CBS wouldn't have approved of its being relocated to NBC).
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They were already at 30 Rock by then. I believe they moved in 1972 (not sure whether it was the 1971-72 season or the 1972-73 season), but Johnny did announce some of the shows at 30 Rock.
Some YouTube-snooping (https://bit.ly/2Nj49zX) points to 1971 as the year they moved. The set change must've happened around that time; I'd have to think the psychedelic set would not have fit in 6A (or CBS wouldn't have approved of its being relocated to NBC).
Good catch. Appears to be even earlier than that (you linked to 1032, and I found that 841 was also from 30 Rock [that was six weeks into the 1971-72 season]).
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Buzzr's online schedule goes far enough to show the Lost & Found schedule now.
9/30:
4PM: Classic Concentration #0001 (5/4/87)
4:30: Classic Concentration #0002 (5/5/87)
So it's the first two shows. I thought they might air the Orson Bean pilot.
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Re: the TTTT set change -- comparing the matchgame.org TTTT listings with Marshall Aakers' site lets us pin down some milestones in the series' run.
Buzzr's episode number for the Redenbacher and dog food episodes are the same as those on Marshall's site, so his index must have the seasons correctly divided:
http://www.ttttontheweb.com (http://www.ttttontheweb.com)
Matchgame.org does have accurate panel listings (along with GSN airdates and even tape dates when the series was rerun in "WinTV" format), but the first 13 weeks of S3 are misfiled at the end of S2, throwing the season divisions off:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030401082939/http://www.matchgame.org:80/episodeguides/tttt/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20030401082939/http://www.matchgame.org:80/episodeguides/tttt/)
It would seem that the set changed from its psychedelic hues to the blue/pink/gold appearance starting in week 5 of S3, or week 83 of the sydicated run. (I'd guess that the same set was used from 1969 until early 1973, just with a new paint job midway through, and there were some touch-ups even during the psychedelic weeks.)
The blue/white set with the block-letter logo was introduced with the taping session of 1-23-1973, corresponding to week 31 of S4 (week 148 of the syndicated run).
No idea when the series moved from the Ed Sullivan Theatre to 6A.
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The blue/white set with the block-letter logo was introduced with the taping session of 1-23-1973, corresponding to week 31 of S4 (week 148 of the syndicated run).
No idea when the series moved from the Ed Sullivan Theatre to 6A.
The first day of the blue/white set, they only did four shows due to difficulties with the new set. I remember that from sitting in the audience.
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Buzzr's online schedule goes far enough to show the Lost & Found schedule now.
9/30:
4PM: Classic Concentration #0001 (5/4/87)
4:30: Classic Concentration #0002 (5/5/87)
So it's the first two shows. I thought they might air the Orson Bean pilot.
Wasn't the Bean pilot just called Concentration?
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Wasn't the Bean pilot just called Concentration?
Yes, it was.
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I missed the 7pm The Better Sex, but the 7:30 episode had the Mean Machine mens team.
Was the 7pm episode one that hasn't been traded around?
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I missed the 7pm The Better Sex, but the 7:30 episode had the Mean Machine mens team.
Was the 7pm episode one that hasn't been traded around?
No. It's one that isn't on the circuit, nor has GSN aired it.
Bob from that first episode looks darn familiar.
Edit: He was a champ on You Don't Say! in 1978, on the episode in circulation from that version.
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GilmoreBox posted the opening of the 7PM episode, so it was circulating but not widely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjUt0jxY8CQ
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Interesting. Is it safe to assume that Freemantle's GT library mirrors what GSN has/had? I wonder if this is an episode GSN had all along but never got around to airing, or it's something that was in Freemantle's holdings that GSN didn't have. I ask because GSN aired pretty much all of the GT library that they had access to.
Maybe there's a bit more of this show around than we thought.
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Compared to Tattletales, the graphics on HSSS looked primitive. But they managed to get some big names, like Hal Holbrook. Plus we got to see Dick Clark with wife number two, Loretta, and it's always nice to hear Johnny O on any game show.