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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: AH3RD on January 24, 2004, 04:17:31 PM
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JANUARY 18, 1982
TattleTales, Goodson-Todman's old 1974-78 CBS daytime Game Of Celebrity Gossip hosted by Bert Convy, returned to The Eye Network @ 4 p.m. Eastern, with Convy returning to his old position as emcee and Johnny Olsen announcing. CBS revived the game show in their dire need of a break for its 4:00 p.m. afternoon slot.
Save for new main title theme music, nothing about the game really changed. The set was a slapdash reworking of the 1970s original, and the game play remained the same: Convy would ask celebrity couples questions, sometimes very personal ones, and each couple represented one-third of the studio audience. In round one the wives appeared on stage while the husbands were secluded back stage listening to music through headphones to block out any noise they might have heard from the stage.
It is one of many G-T games to switch from "A Mark Goodson-Bill Todman Production" to "A Mark Goodson Production" (Todman having passed away in 1979), a transition first exhibited in Child's Play, which debuted on CBS in fall of 1982. CBS affilliates in New York and several other cities slotted TattleTales @ 12 noon. This new edition lasted 2 1/2 seasons until Friday, June 1, 1984, replaced the following Monday by Mark Goodson’s Body Language, hosted by Tom Kennedy. Host Convy would move on to host Goodson’s Super Password, which debuted on NBC that very fall, and became his best-remembered game show and his last project for Mark Goodson Productions.
(Source Of Info: Game Shows '75: TattleTales (http://\"http://www.curtalliaume.com/tattleta.html\"), The Unofficial TattleTales Site (http://\"http://www.bertconvy.net/tales.html\"))
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[quote name=\'AH3RD\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 02:17 PM\'] The set was a slapdash reworking of the 1970s original, [/quote]
That to me implies that it was cheaply done. The ONLY difference I can think of between the two sets is that the monitors that sat on the main game desk were squared off instead of tapered.
So where do you get that? Or am I misinterpreting your statement?
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Well, it wasn't the most attractive set anyway, complete with a big, blocky logo. (The same theme was done better on He Said, She Said, the precursor of Tattletales, done by Kathleen Ankers, who also did set design for David Letterman in the NBC years and played some very funny characters).
In short, there was a lot of green, banana and blue paint, and that's about it.
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Another minor difference: Fee plugs were read at the end of the show instead of at the halftime break.
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 03:20 PM\'] Well, it wasn't the most attractive set anyway, complete with a big, blocky logo. [/quote]
I liked it, myself. My point is, though, that I don't think the new set compared unfavorably to the old one.
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To its last day in 1984, "Tattletales" was "A Mark Goodson-Bill Todman Production" it never switched to just Goodson, though other shows had made the switch.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 07:27 PM\'] To its last day in 1984, "Tattletales" was "A Mark Goodson-Bill Todman Production" it never switched to just Goodson, though other shows had made the switch. [/quote]
Incorrect, Jimmy. Off to the Hot Potato bench with you. There is a 1984 Tattletales episode I have on tape featuring mother/daughter teams (Florence Henderson, Marla Gibbs, Nedra Volz and their daughters) with Johnny Olson voicing the words "A Mark Goodson Television Production".
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Last year game show archaeologists Randy West and yours truly discovered the TT "big win" end game chime buried deep within an underground cavern in the bowels of Hollywood.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 04:23 PM\'] Another minor difference: Fee plugs were read at the end of the show instead of at the halftime break. [/quote]
Not to mention the bell and buzzer effects (the only holdover sound effect was the end-of-game chime that Chris C. mentioned he and Randy finding recently).
Didn't TT and PYL tape in the same studio (I seem to recall some 1984 PYL episodes shown on GSN where the stairs within the audience were painted red, banana and blue)? I'm pretty sure the EOTVGS has the two shows taping in different studios.
Doug
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 04:59 PM\'] The ONLY difference I can think of between the two sets is that the monitors that sat on the main game desk were squared off instead of tapered.
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Actually, there's one other one...(I have an eye for detail, what can I say??)
The background on the score displays was brown for the 1974-1978 version; for 1982-1984, it was green.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 10:11 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 04:59 PM\'] The ONLY difference I can think of between the two sets is that the monitors that sat on the main game desk were squared off instead of tapered.
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Actually, there's one other one...(I have an eye for detail, what can I say??)
The background on the score displays was brown for the 1974-1978 version; for 1982-1984, it was green. [/quote]
I think the panel desktop was green in the earlier version and grey in the latter one, wasn't it?
And, of course, the piece of plastic on top of the monitors (covering where the lock-in devices once were) was gone from the latter set.
Man, I better find something better to do, and soon.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 08:25 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 07:27 PM\'] To its last day in 1984, "Tattletales" was "A Mark Goodson-Bill Todman Production" it never switched to just Goodson, though other shows had made the switch. [/quote]
Incorrect, Jimmy. Off to the Hot Potato bench with you. There is a 1984 Tattletales episode I have on tape featuring mother/daughter teams (Florence Henderson, Marla Gibbs, Nedra Volz and their daughters) with Johnny Olson voicing the words "A Mark Goodson Television Production". [/quote]
As someone who strives for accuracy above all, I welcome the correction. The last one I have on tape is the Mother-Daughter week with Bert's wife and daughter, Lola Falana, etc which I taped after I got a VCR in Feb. 84. That week was G-T.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 05:37 PM\']Last year game show archaeologists Randy West and yours truly discovered the TT "big win" end game chime buried deep within an underground cavern in the bowels of Hollywood.[/quote]
I was with Prof. West on another excusion into said bowels... of Hollywood and found the bell that 'Whew!' used to start the charge up the board.
JOSH
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Besides Mother Daughter Week, there was also...
Mother-Son Week
Best Friends Week (all gentlemen celebs)
Sisters Week
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[quote name=\'AH3RD\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 03:17 PM\'] In round one the wives appeared on stage while the husbands were secluded back stage listening to music through headphones to block out any noise they might have heard from the stage.
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Not always! Round 1 also had the husbands up front with the wives backstage.
PROOF: Saw it on a Christmas episode as part of GSN's 12 Games of Christmas.
The game could be played either way.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 09:38 PM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 04:23 PM\']
Didn't TT and PYL tape in the same studio (I seem to recall some 1984 PYL episodes shown on GSN where the stairs within the audience were painted red, banana and blue)? I'm pretty sure the EOTVGS has the two shows taping in different studios.
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They did, yes. I want to say that's studio 31. The episodes that GSN originally aired had the yellow/red/blue....
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 26 2004, 02:30 AM\'] [quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 09:38 PM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 04:23 PM\']
Didn't TT and PYL tape in the same studio (I seem to recall some 1984 PYL episodes shown on GSN where the stairs within the audience were painted red, banana and blue)? I'm pretty sure the EOTVGS has the two shows taping in different studios.
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They did, yes. I want to say that's studio 31. The episodes that GSN originally aired had the yellow/red/blue.... [/quote]
Did they show the blue windows in the back of the audience, like on PYL, or were they covered by curtains?
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Did they show the blue windows in the back of the audience, like on PYL, or were they covered by curtains?
You make it sound as if they were real windows! :) No, the backdrop of TT was yellow curtains or something similar.
-Jason
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The background on the score displays was brown for the 1974-1978 version; for 1982-1984, it was green.
I always thought it was red instead of brown.
Another change re. the score displays - when the pot was split, all the scores would change at the same time, rather than one at a time (did I watch the show just a little TOO closely?)
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jan 24 2004, 08:37 PM\']Last year game show archaeologists Randy West and yours truly discovered the TT "big win" end game chime buried deep within an underground cavern in the bowels of Hollywood.[/quote]
Also used as the time's-up signal on "Now You See It."