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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: chad1m on July 28, 2016, 05:15:57 PM
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VH1 announced today that they have revived Hip Hop Squares for at least 20 episodes, with Ice Cube as producer. It originally aired for two ten-episode seasons in 2012 on sister network MTV2. Here's the press release:
VH1 GREENLIGHTS HIP HOP SQUARES
ICE CUBE TO EXECUTIVE PRODUCE NETWORK'S SPIN ON HOLLYWOOD SQUARES SET TO PREMIERE THIS FALL
JESSE COLLINS ENTERTAINMENT, CUBE VISION AND THE FIRM TO PRODUCE
VH1 is giving the classic game show HOLLYWOOD SQUARES a Hip Hop makeover with the help of Ice Cube and his Cube Vision production company in conjunction with Jesse Collins Entertainment and Jeff Kwatinetz's The Firm.
Slated for a Fall 2016 premiere, celebrity contestants will match wits and test their pop culture knowledge with the superstar squares, featuring the biggest names in hip hop, comedy and entertainment.
O'Shea Jackson aka Ice Cube is an iconic member of N.W.A., as well as a prominent producer, actor and filmmaker. Most recently, he starred in and produced BARBERSHOP: THE NEXT CUT and produced the Oscar nominated STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON. Entertainment industry veteran Jesse Collins (BET Awards, VH1's Dear Mama, Real Husbands of Hollywood) will also executive produce the series.
According to Ice Cube: "Hip Hop Squares is going to be fun and spontaneous; unlike typical game shows, viewers should never know what's going to happen next. When VH1 asked us to join the producing team, we jumped aboard as we have had success with VH1, and we love their team, excitement and commitment to the show."
VH1 and Logo President Chris McCarthy goes on to say: "Ice Cube is one of the most prolific figures in Hip Hop history and American culture at large. We are thrilled to partner with him and CBS Distribution to reinvent one of America's most iconic game shows with Hip Hop Squares."
Scott Koondel, Executive Vice President and Chief Corporate Content Licensing Officer, CBS Corporation echoed: "We cannot imagine a more ideal talent than Ice Cube to take our great comedy format to new heights. Ice Cube's phenomenal personality and popularity are vital keys to making Hip Hop Squares VH1's next big hit."
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I wonder if Ice will be like Whoopi and take a seat in a square (center square, I'd pressume), or if he'll be more behind the scenes using his friendships and connections to bring in some high profile names. (Or both, obviously.)
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Bumping to note this is finally scheduled to premiere with two episodes on Monday night, March 13, and two more each night Tue-Thu. (As of now; the schedule seems to be in flux and might change again. )
DeRay Davis is the new host, and this time around the contestants will also be famous folk.
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The actual Squares set piece looks like it is the "Stair Step Style" illusion ala MGHS and not the true grid like the last version. Probably to go along with the party vibe.
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VH1 has uploaded a 5 minute sneak preview of the opening of the premiere(?) episode. This particular incarnation of Hollywood/Hip Hop Squares appears to be an all-star version, meaning the contestants will be celebrities as well as the Squares themselves. The contestants for this particular clip are Tyson Beckford and Don Benjamin.
Who are the Squares? Center square for this episode is Bobby Brown, and the others are, in no particular order or formation: Tip, Faizon Love, Tiffany Haddish, Kelis, Keri Hilson, DC Young Fly, Eva Marcelle, Michael Blackson.
Rounding out the stars are host DeRay Davis, announcer Ice Cube, Biz Markie as the DJ, and the XO Squad, who dances for the audience.
Without further ado, here's the preview:
http://www.vh1.com/news/304390/hip-hop-squares-tyson-beckford-don-benjamin-preview/
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Center square for this episode is Bobby Brown
You sure can't beat that.
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Center square for this episode is Bobby Brown
You sure can't beat that.
Enough with your wise cracks.
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Enough with your wise cracks.
Keeping the pimp hand strong? :D
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Enough with your wise cracks.
Keeping the pimp hand strong? :D
We don't do that, okay? Crack is wack.
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I received a little more insight as to the scoring and who benefits from the winnings during the game (the original clip I posted to illustrate my commentary was deleted by VH-1 because the clip included a reference they were not allowed to publicly show discovered after the fact).
Scoring appears to be inspired from the HS portion of the MG-HSH, except instead of each captured square being worth $25 apiece, they are worth varying denominations of money - not yet sure how much a tic-tac-toe is worth, or if there will be a Secret Square round in this version.
Also, it appears that the celebs will be playing on behalf of a civilian fan, who will receive the winnings - to what extent, and what the losing civilian fan will receive remains to be seen.
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OK, saw the first two eps last night, my feedback is as follows:
I found the earning money for capturing Squares ala the MG-HS Hour novel, the zingers were actually hilarious (see examples below), but I found the game pacing too slow.
There should be no less than two complete rounds per show. Editing should be done so that each celebrity questioned should have 45 - 60 seconds of screen time to answer. All the inter-Square banter should be reserved for bonus footage clips online.
The monies won I find reasonable, I especially like that the losing civilian contestant gets to keep their winnings.
In short, I think this would be a better show if either the games were straddled or the show extended to an hour if episodes must be self-contained.
Bonus round: I'm still undecided on that modified Tic Tac Dough '90 style format. It seems too easy to win. If they had returning champions, you could make it three tries for the first win, and increase it by an additional try for reach subsequent game win, but that's just me.
Other than that, this could be a promising series.
Sample zingers:
DERAY DAVIS: If you wanted to take a vacation to Dildo Island - probably with Cardi B, what country would you be visiting?
AMBER ROSE: Dildo Island, isn't that where Trump is from?
DERAY DAVIS: Olympian Marissa Dick introduced the world to her total Dick move. In what sport does she perform The Dick?
AFFION CROCKETT: Whatever sport they play on Dildo Island.
Link to the episode in question where you can watch in its entirety:
http://www.vh1.com/episodes/egl4nx/hip-hop-squares-ray-j-vs-princess-love-season-1-ep-102
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Seems like Hip Hop Squares is gonna make Harvey's FEUD appear prudish in comparison...
JakeT
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I suggest we just chill till the next episode.
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Five minutes before the beginning of the game seems a bit much. I'm no prude either and I love a little fun, but the opening seemed to go on forever with the picking up of Tyson Beckford and the runway challenge.
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Fans of the old series will either be put off or confused. Their target demo may not even know that there was an old series.
Given that they're playing for members of the public who could use the money and that it's a significant amount, I wish that they would have cracked the whip a little. But I'm not the target demo so I will have forgotten all about it by this time tomorrow.
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I am not at all well versed in the world of hip-hop, but it's evident that this show is going for a laid-back hangout vibe, and for what it wants to be, I think it succeeds. Really, the only thing that didn't click for me was the dance troupe, which always felt a little out of place when it showed up.
With the casual mood, and in episode 102, only 11 questions played, my concern is that there will frequently be at least one celebrity that never gets selected during an episode. It's a problem with no good solution -- you don't want to lose the casualness of the show, but a half hour isn't enough time for a complete-feeling episode and an hour would be too long.
Given that they're playing for members of the public who could use the money and that it's a significant amount, I wish that they would have cracked the whip a little.
But then the individual questions wouldn't be worth as much. The producers knew that they weren't going to play too many questions per episode, so they could put a respectable amount in each square. If you try to cram in more questions, not only do you lose all of the fun, then the individual dollar amounts go down, too.
Bonus round: I'm still undecided on that modified Tic Tac Dough '90 style format. It seems too easy to win.
See, I like that a game show is willing to have a bonus round where the majority of contestants win. I'd much rather see modest stakes that are frequently won over inflated top prizes that are rarely given away. Again, I'm not well versed in hip-hop, but I'm relatively certain that a common theme in the music is wealth and money flowing freely. It would feel out of place for a show titled Hip Hop Squares (where one of the celebrities sits in a throne and where Ice Cube is surrounded by stacks of cash) to be stingy.
Really, the thing that bothered me the most was the amount of ADR that the host performed. Ultimately, Hip Hop Squares does what it sets out to do. It isn't a traditional game show, but it isn't trying to be one.
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For anyone who watched more closely than I did; how often was the value of the square less than that of a game win? It seemed to be the case moreso in game one.
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The comment regarding the money amounts are higher to make up for fewer Squares being called during a game makes sense. I guess in part that's why celebrities are playing on behalf of civilians rather than the civilians themselves, because if I was playing on behalf of myself and celebrities were infringing on my ability to win money because they were too busy upstaging each other, I'd be royally pissed. When a celebrity is playing on your behalf, you can only get but so upset, especially if you keep all that is won, win or lose.
Bill Cullen himself once said, "It's great to be witty and funny, but a host should never detract from a contestant's ability to win money." The same can be said about celebrity panelists.
Which reminds me: Tiffany Haddish is one annoying hood chick that people are going to get tired of really quickly. The one who show out the most are usually the ones people know the least.
I really want to like this show, I like how they're generous with the money payouts, I can even forgive them for not having a Secret Square, I just wish they can get more questions in a single game. I understand that it's as much a party show as it is a game show, I just want to see more questions asked and answered without so many lengthy sidetracks.
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I tried...I really did...but I couldn't get through even one episode...just too loud and chaotic...
JakeT