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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Mike Tennant on January 14, 2004, 12:55:31 PM
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A recent suggestion on this board to combine WML? and TTTT into a single, hour-long program was not too well received. We all know the fate of the MG/HS Hour. So, for $25, here is my riddle:
What two game shows would make a good hybrid?
And for the jackpot:
How would you combine them?
What would you do for a bonus round?
Who would you get to host each segment?
Good luck!
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 10:55 AM\'] What two game shows would make a good hybrid?
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Spinoff and Seven Keys. I mean, it's just so OBVIOUS, isn't it?
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 11:55 AM\']What two game shows would make a good hybrid? [/quote]
Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune. They ARE two of the most popular game shows today.
[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 11:55 AM\']How would you combine them?[/quote]
Wheel first with 3 new contestants, then Jeopardy! with the champion of the previous day vs. the top two winners of Wheel.
[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 11:55 AM\']What would you do for a bonus round?[/quote]
Final Jeopardy.
[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 11:55 AM\']Who would you get to host each segment?[/quote]
Todd Newton for WoF and Marc Summers for Jeopardy. (I think Sajak and Trebek are a little old for this gig.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 01:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 10:55 AM\'] What two game shows would make a good hybrid?
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Spinoff and Seven Keys. I mean, it's just so OBVIOUS, isn't it?[/quote]
Well, okay, besides those. . .
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I would propose "Big Showdown/$ale of the century" One half hour should do. Play "Big Showdown" for dollars rather than points, with Instant Bargains periodically. At the end the winner is shown many prizes and would throw a special pair of dice. If they came up Show and Down on the first roll, the player would take all the prizes on stage. If not, they would have 30 seconds to roll Show and Down to be able to return. A champ can win all the prizes two ways, with the dice or by amassing enough money through return visits to buy the prizes. Host: Todd Newton.
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I'll do one that involves THREE game shows.
PYL/Whammy/Winning Lines
After PYL and Whammy do their thing, respectively, here's what happens:
The 3 contestants from PYL and the 3 contestants from Whammy will make up the 6 contestants for the "Sudden Death" game on Winning Lines. The rules from the show's Sudden Death round also apply here, and Obviously, whoever wins Sudden Death, goes on to the Wonderwall.
I am only doing this for those who like Catchy game show elements, such as the Big Board and the Wonderwall. I'm the guy who looks for Catchy elements each time I watch a game show, and these 3 game shows DO have Catchy elements. Remember, CATCHINESS COUNTS!
As for hosts, Peter Tomarken, Todd Newton, and Dick Clark, respectively.
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 03:16 PM\']PYL/Whammy/Winning Lines
The 3 contestants from PYL and the 3 contestants from Whammy will make up the 6 contestants for the "Sudden Death" game on Winning Lines. The rules from the show's Sudden Death round also apply here, and Obviously, whoever wins Sudden Death, goes on to the Wonderwall.[/quote]
First, I would like it to be noted for the record that I am exercising considerable restraint in not responding to the latter part of that message.
Yes, obviously, the winner of Sudden Death plays the Wonderwall. And, also obviously, the winners of the PYL and Whammy! segments get the benefit of . . . um, and a contestant who gets four whammies is allowed to . . . er.
"And you're out of the game! Until five minutes from now. It's that cutthroat."
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The only hybrid that for me would be feasible from a theme and ownership standpoint would be "Gambit" and "High Rollers"--both gambling-based shows, both with similar formats (although I had ideas of changing the tossup format to separate the two) and both owned by MGM.
Oh yeah--"TJW"/"TTD"--but you'd have to do a lot of work to try to distinguish the two shows from each other from more than just scoring gimmicks.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 01:27 PM\'] Yes, obviously, the winner of Sudden Death plays the Wonderwall. And, also obviously, the winners of the PYL and Whammy! segments get the benefit of . . . um, and a contestant who gets four whammies is allowed to . . . er.
"And you're out of the game! Until five minutes from now. It's that cutthroat." [/quote]
It's the Kinder, Gentler Gameshow. That's a VERY catchy concept, Mr. Hutchinson. And CATCHINESS COUNTS. :)
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 03:16 PM\'] I'll do one that involves THREE game shows.
PYL/Whammy/Winning Lines
After PYL and Whammy do their thing, respectively, here's what happens:
The 3 contestants from PYL and the 3 contestants from Whammy will make up the 6 contestants for the "Sudden Death" game on Winning Lines. The rules from the show's Sudden Death round also apply here, and Obviously, whoever wins Sudden Death, goes on to the Wonderwall.
I am only doing this for those who like Catchy game show elements, such as the Big Board and the Wonderwall. I'm the guy who looks for Catchy elements each time I watch a game show, and these 3 game shows DO have Catchy elements. Remember, CATCHINESS COUNTS!
As for hosts, Peter Tomarken, Todd Newton, and Dick Clark, respectively. [/quote]
Um...what exactly is so different about PYL and Whammy, that you would have to make two separate segments for them?
And also, catchiness counts, but if you don't have some sort of gameplay, your show is D.O.A. Winning Lines had the Wonderwall, but it had no gameplay. It died a quiet death...RIP 2000-2000.
Hell, even PYL had the 4 questions, even though it was nothing but a BS method of distributing spins.
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I have no hybrid ideas (the one hybrid show we ever got didn't work very well), but I do like the subject header. My contributions:
Three for the Money Maze
The Big Show Down You Go
Who, What, or Where Was I?
Now You See It Takes Two
Everything Goes Bzzz!
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 05:07 PM\']
Everything Goes Bzzz! [/quote]
Erm....you might want to check with your doctor...
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OK, after trying Make The Love Connection (a guy goes on two dates chosen by the audience, then tries to figure out what they have in common), I tried:
The Eye Guess/Hollywood Squares hour!
Hey, the boards are the same. In the first half hour, two challengers play Eye Guess, with your favorite celebs hidden behind screens in the HS board. They're lifted briefly, except for the center square (who, when chosen, gets wild applause from the Mackenzie), and host Patrick Wayne asks: Which star was chosen for last year's best-dressed list? Imagine the hilarity when the contestant picks No. 9 and Gilbert Gottfried is there!
The winner plays Hollywood Squares, of course, against the champ and if you need a big finish bonus round after this hour of hijinx, your life will be much too full.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 04:07 PM\'] Everything Goes Bzzz! [/quote]
If it's a hit, a competing syndicator will come up with
Almost Anything Goes Whew!
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This isn't a combination game like MG/HS Hour. It's a pure hybrid. I came up with it when I was a kid. It's a combination of The Joker's Wild and Card Sharks. I posed this years ago either on GSL or atgs (Todd Newton wears pink panties!)
When you spin the slots, instead of categories, playing cards come up. Face cards count as jokers do on TJW. The other cards represent the number of cards you must call correctly to get the money. (Same scoring system in TJW. i.e. $50, $100, $200.) If you spin three eights, you'd have to call eight cards. If you get a two, an eight, or a joker, you can call two or eight cards for $100. This isn't rocket science. You can change the first card. You can never change two cards in a row. If you miss, your opponent gets to call the rest of the cards to try to steal the money. He can't change the card you missed on. (But he can still change every other card after that if he wants.) There are three decks involved. Each player has his own deck, just like in Card Sharks. The slot machine has its own deck. Cards are never discarded - otherwise you could run out of cards. If you get three face cards, that's three jokers. Call one card right, and you win the game.
The bonus game has all face cards removed from the deck except one. That face card is the devil. Any face cards you spin are multiplied by 100. (2 is $200, 3 is $300, ..., 10 is $100. Aces count as $100.) Get to $1,000 and you win. Hit the devil/face card, and you lose everything.
I expect to see this as a GSN original some time in 2004!
Justin in GA
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Let's not forget National Lampoon's Funny Money Maze. ;-)
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Funny you should work the idea of re-using a game board - a strange mix of High Rollers and Tic Tac Dough came to mind - use the Wink-era board to start with High Rollers - each screen with a number, clear a column and win a prize (or go back to the old days - a prize behind each number). First players A and B play High Rollers. 2 out of 3 match. Say B wins. Two new players, C & D, play another game of High Rollers. C wins. B and C win the right to face off in Tic Tac Dough.
The big problem here is that if you have 12 tie games of TTD, you'll go days without playing Rollers. Horrible idea, but I was trying to figure out how to utilize the same props like HS/MG Hour. It's no worse than another idea: crossing elements of LINGO with PYRAMID or PASSWORD PLUS. Six Pyramid-type subjects in the traditional setting. Players try to guess what subject is in each box by playing a round of LINGO. Each 5-letter LINGO word would be a clue to the subject. Say we start with the subject in the lower left $50 box. Then imagine playing LINGO and getting each of these words: CROSS BEADS SAINT WAFER POPES. If any time a word is guessed someone guesses the subject - "Things in the Catholic Church", they win the box, the money, and play goes on to the next box. When all six boxes are guessed, the team with the most cash wins the game. The obvious problem is - how on earth would you have enough clues that are only five letters long?
Is there codeine in this cough syrup...?????
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[quote name=\'Justin30519\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 05:37 PM\'] I expect to see this as a GSN original some time in 2004!
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Um, yeah, you just keep on waiting, there.....
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[quote name=\'WhammyPower\' date=\'Jan 14 2004, 10:38 AM\'] Wheel first with 3 new contestants, then Jeopardy! with the champion of the previous day vs. the top two winners of Wheel. [/quote]
"...as always, they'll face our 'Jeopardy!' champion, a former lawyer, whose (yawn) 164-day cash winnings total $4,132,750..."
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The only hybrid that for me would be feasible from a theme and ownership standpoint would be "Gambit" and "High Rollers"
And Las Vegas Gambit kinda brought elements of HR to the former when they switched to the latter's Big Numbers round for the bonus.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Catch Phrase and Concentration. Steve Ryan are you lurking?
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I don't pretend that this would be a hit, but I always wanted to combine my two favorites, Pyramid and J!. Four players, no celebs, play two games of Pyramid, with each winning team splitting the winnings for that game. The player who loses both games is out. The other three play Jeopardy!, and they're spotted the amount they won in the Winners' Circle. The player who won both games gets to choose first. (No returning champions, in current Sony fashion.)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Jan 15 2004, 11:19 PM\'] I don't pretend that this would be a hit, but I always wanted to combine my two favorites, Pyramid and J!. Four players, no celebs, play two games of Pyramid, with each winning team splitting the winnings for that game. The player who loses both games is out. The other three play Jeopardy!, and they're spotted the amount they won in the Winners' Circle. The player who won both games gets to choose first. (No returning champions, in current Sony fashion.) [/quote]
I'm not thrilled with combining those two particular shows, but I give a tip of the cap to you for the simple and clear way you go from a two-teams-of-two game to a three individuals game. You've got a seed of an idea there that you might want to let grow into something.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 15 2004, 08:33 PM\'] I'm not thrilled with combining those two particular shows, but I give a tip of the cap to you for the simple and clear way you go from a two-teams-of-two game to a three individuals game. You've got a seed of an idea there that you might want to let grow into something. [/quote]
I have to admit, that _is_ really damn clever.
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What two game shows would make a good hybrid?
Zooventure and Everything Goes.
How would you combine them?
What would you do for a bonus round?
I suspect that answering these questions would violate Eligibility Requirement #5. ;-)
Who would you get to host each segment?
Anyone but J.D. Roth.
- David
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I'll try to make this fast, but y'all gotta figure someone who calls himself the GameTweaker (Pat. Pending, or maybe Pat Sajak) would have something to add to this thread...
In brief:
1) Three or four contestants play a Fastest Finger question (heck, "Millionaire" ain't using it)
2) Winner of the Fastest Finger plays a hybrid of Art James' "Blank Check" and Indian Poker with the hundredths-of-seconds digit of all the contestants' times (with variations from two digits to three / four, low-to-high, high-to-low, contestants only seeing own digit, or seeing all digits EXCEPT their own... and I said this was gonna be brief?!?!?)
3) Bonus round is a spinoff of... well, "Spin-Off," with all ten digits (0 - 9) in each column instead of six, object to get a zero in each column (if four columns, "0-0-0-0" = $10,000, if five*, "0-0-0-0-0" = $100,000) in sixty seconds (Hmmmm... "Zero to Sixty"? "Zero Minute"?)
Esoteric Eric, the GameTweaker (Pat. Pending... Patti Deutsch?); I'd have a tournament format rather than defending champs (winners go to a Friday Final for a spot in a future T of C and *a shot at $100,000 in the bonus.) I dunno who'd host it; maybe Donny Osmond?
Edited only for a couple of typing errors...
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[quote name=\'Esoteric Eric\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 01:36 AM\'] 1) Three or four contestants play a Fastest Finger question (heck, "Millionaire" ain't using it) [/quote]
How about this: a series of Fastest Finger questions; the winner plays the Wonderwall. Maybe I should pitch this to Celador.
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That would be nice, Jason!
Then again, that idea is better than mine!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 15 2004, 10:17 PM\'] [quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 15 2004, 08:33 PM\'] I'm not thrilled with combining those two particular shows, but I give a tip of the cap to you for the simple and clear way you go from a two-teams-of-two game to a three individuals game. You've got a seed of an idea there that you might want to let grow into something. [/quote]
I have to admit, that _is_ really damn clever. [/quote]
Thank you. That would mean a lot coming from either one of you.
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How 'bout Password+Pyramid?
It could probably even be done in half an hour:
2 celebs and 2 civilians play Password Puzzles; best of three wins. (For time purposes, at least puzzle #3 would need shortening--maybe just 3 clue words.) Losing civilian is dismissed; winning civilian challenges the returning champion in a standard game of Pyramid. Bonus game is--what else?--the Winner's Circle.
Alternately, have 4 civilians play Password; winning team is then split apart. Each player becomes the partner of a celeb for the Pyramid half. Pro: no returning champs; con: no celeb interest in the first half.
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Wheel first with 3 new contestants, then Jeopardy! with the champion of the previous day vs. the top two winners of Wheel.
Better yet -- have the same board layout as Jeopardy, but without dollar values -- just numbers 1 to 5 in each category. The value of a question would be determined by spinning the wheel. "Double Jeopardy" would be the same way, but with double the money values on the wheel. Instead of buying vowels, contestants can buy hints, but only if the wheel lands on a "buy a hint" space" (a throwback to the very early days of Wheel) -- this way, contestants wouldn't abuse the feature. The hint price would be $100 times the question number in the first round, $200 times the question number in "Double Jeopardy". "Final Jeopardy" would be played the same way as usual.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 09:10 PM\'] How 'bout Password+Pyramid?
Alternately, have 4 civilians play Password; winning team is then split apart. Each player becomes the partner of a celeb for the Pyramid half. Pro: no returning champs; con: no celeb interest in the first half. [/quote]
I'd call your pro a con and your con a pro.
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Combine Card Sharks with Family Feud. Give a survey answer which appears on the board--you get to start calling cards.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Jan 17 2004, 05:11 PM\'] I'd call your pro a con and your con a pro. [/quote]
Well, I was thinking of aspects that would get the thing on the air these days--straddling and returning champs being somewhat unpopular among packagers. Celebs, well, they're a pro if (a) they draw viewers and (2) they can play the game, but I realize neither of those is a given.
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Point taken. I was thinking more of whether I would like it.