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Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: DrJWJustice on January 12, 2004, 12:40:20 PM
Read it and weep:  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ion_gameshow_dc (http://\"http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=597&e=4&u=/nm/20040112/tv_nm/television_gameshow_dc\")
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: uncamark on January 12, 2004, 12:50:11 PM
[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 12:40 PM\']Read it and weep:  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ion_gameshow_dc (http://\"http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=597&e=4&u=/nm/20040112/tv_nm/television_gameshow_dc\")[/quote]
The story's already over at the GSN board.

And with all due respect, J.W., Woolery left "Wheel."
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: DrJWJustice on January 12, 2004, 03:52:43 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 12:50 PM\'] [quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 12:40 PM\']Read it and weep:  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ion_gameshow_dc (http://\"http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=597&e=4&u=/nm/20040112/tv_nm/television_gameshow_dc\")[/quote]
The story's already over at the GSN board.

And with all due respect, J.W., Woolery left "Wheel." [/quote]
 WOOLERY LEFT WHEEL??????!!!!!!!   My god, the world's gonna end!  Everybody pray to whatever deities you believe in, cuz you're all out of time!


I'll put it another way, I'll post what I like.  I guess it hasn't occured to you that not everyone reads every single board and every single posting in here.  I hae a life, and I don't have time to read every pixel that appears on my monitor whenever I pull up this forum, so take your 'all due respect' remark and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.  I think others have told you about this before.  I'll post what I like, where I like, when I like.  If you dont' like it, then you don't have to read it.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: ilb4ever2000 on January 12, 2004, 04:31:41 PM
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I guess it hasn't occured to you that not everyone reads every single board and every single posting in here.

Well, it ended up in the GSN forum (which you apparently don't read), anyway.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 12, 2004, 04:38:50 PM
Mark's point is that you're late to the party, and what you post as a news item is old news to us.  If you cared to offer opinions or insights, that would be one thing.  But a mere link to a story we're already talking about helps no one and makes you look out of touch.

If you can't be bothered with reading what others have written, or even glancing at a handful of headers, that's certainly up to you.  But you're going to get called on it (uncamark, BTW, is one of the more gentle voices in that regard) and responding with a defensive rant that you can do or say anything you want in our forum isn't going to score you a bunch of points either.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: DrJWJustice on January 12, 2004, 05:12:54 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 04:38 PM\'] If you can't be bothered with reading what others have written, or even glancing at a handful of headers, that's certainly up to you.  But you're going to get called on it (uncamark, BTW, is one of the more gentle voices in that regard) and responding with a defensive rant that you can do or say anything you want in our forum isn't going to score you a bunch of points either. [/quote]
 Fine, let him call me on it.  I'll ignore it, next time.  FYI, that link went up this morning.  It was new news as far as I'm concerned.  I don't have the luxury or the time to be a GSN insider at this moment.  Perhaps that will change in the next few months, but we'll have to see.  

As for 'scoring points', thank you for your concern, but it doesn't matter to me.  This isn't a game. It's a place to post opinions, ruminations, etc. on game shows.  If you don't want me to rant, don't tick me off.  It's that easy.  Now, back to topic.  I've had enough of this one.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: ilb4ever2000 on January 12, 2004, 05:17:11 PM
There's one show I don't think I saw mentioned before - Vegas Weddings Unveiled.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: DrJWJustice on January 12, 2004, 05:28:18 PM
[quote name=\'ilb4ever2000\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 05:17 PM\'] There's one show I don't think I saw mentioned before - Vegas Weddings Unveiled. [/quote]
 One question I do have here -- what, exactly, is the 'new' GSN aiming for?  Reality shows are certainly at the top of their list, but it seems like they're going in the same direction that the old Nashville Network, among many others, has gone, which is away from their traditional audience.  That particular network comes to mind because of all the changes they've made in the past 5 years in general, the past 6-10  months in particular.  I'm sure attracting a bigger crowd is a major contributing factor.

One thing seems pretty clear -- I'll have to dig out some tapes in my old tape collection if I want to watch reruns of Match Game or anything else game show-related in the near future.

Oh, I do apologize for the harsh tone earlier.  It's not an excuse, but I am on medication for a major ear infection (going on 6 months now!!)  that does include mood swings as a side effect.  A *wonderful* thing for a teacher to have, especially at the start of a new semester.  Yes, I am seeking other meds that will take care of the problem, in case anyone is wondering.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: tommycharles on January 12, 2004, 05:39:00 PM
[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 05:28 PM\'] [quote name=\'ilb4ever2000\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 05:17 PM\'] There's one show I don't think I saw mentioned before - Vegas Weddings Unveiled. [/quote]
One question I do have here -- what, exactly, is the 'new' GSN aiming for?  Reality shows are certainly at the top of their list, but it seems like they're going in the same direction that the old Nashville Network, among many others, has gone, which is away from their traditional audience.  That particular network comes to mind because of all the changes they've made in the past 5 years in general, the past 6-10  months in particular.  I'm sure attracting a bigger crowd is a major contributing factor.

One thing seems pretty clear -- I'll have to dig out some tapes in my old tape collection if I want to watch reruns of Match Game or anything else game show-related in the near future.

Oh, I do apologize for the harsh tone earlier.  It's not an excuse, but I am on medication for a major ear infection (going on 6 months now!!)  that does include mood swings as a side effect.  A *wonderful* thing for a teacher to have, especially at the start of a new semester.  Yes, I am seeking other meds that will take care of the problem, in case anyone is wondering. [/quote]
 Does anyone know if the changes to the Nashville Network have been successful? Anyhow - the object of the "new" GSN AFIAK is to be a general "gaming" network, rather than a game show network. This is accomplished (in their opinion) by adding non-game programming (fake a date), video game programming, and general game programing (casino stuff, plus all the games across america bits).

And that's about all we know, I think.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: DrJWJustice on January 12, 2004, 05:49:36 PM
[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 05:39 PM\'] Does anyone know if the changes to the Nashville Network have been successful? [/quote]
 (snip)

I don't know about their other shows, but I have to believe that it's doing well, because their line-up has been pretty steady of late.  They've been shoing some popular older series that haven't aired anywhere in a while.  I do know that their Star Trek:  TNG ratings have been through the roof, which surprises me since Star Trek is not en vogue, as it were, among sci-fi fans, evidenced in part in the performance of Star Trek X: Nemesis at the box offfice.

There's no telling where GSN will wind up.  One thing's for sure:  Fox is going to be keeping GSN in no short supply for new reality series for a while.  They keep coming up with wilder and dumber ideas all the time.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: ilb4ever2000 on January 12, 2004, 05:56:39 PM
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Fox is going to be keeping GSN in no short supply for new reality series for a while. They keep coming up with wilder and dumber ideas all the time.

There is that new Reality Central or whatever it's called coming eventually. Don't know where that'll leave GSN in the reality department...
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: Brandon Brooks on January 12, 2004, 08:35:16 PM
[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 03:52 PM\']
WOOLERY LEFT WHEEL??????!!!!!!!   My god, the world's gonna end!  Everybody pray to whatever deities you believe in, cuz you're all out of time!


I'll put it another way, I'll post what I like.  I guess it hasn't occured to you that not everyone reads every single board and every single posting in here.  I hae a life, and I don't have time to read every pixel that appears on my monitor whenever I pull up this forum, so take your 'all due respect' remark and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.  I think others have told you about this before.  I'll post what I like, where I like, when I like.  If you dont' like it, then you don't have to read it. [/quote]
Blah, blah, blah.

It was posted before in numerous places, and you could've went back two topics to read what you just posted.  All this "I can do what I want", and "you can stick it where the sun don't shine" defense is hardly necessary.  

What is the purpose of being on a message board if you don't read the messages?

Brandon Brooks
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: SRIV94 on January 12, 2004, 09:25:34 PM
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 07:35 PM\'] [quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 03:52 PM\']
WOOLERY LEFT WHEEL??????!!!!!!!   My god, the world's gonna end!  Everybody pray to whatever deities you believe in, cuz you're all out of time!


I'll put it another way, I'll post what I like.  I guess it hasn't occured to you that not everyone reads every single board and every single posting in here.  I hae a life, and I don't have time to read every pixel that appears on my monitor whenever I pull up this forum, so take your 'all due respect' remark and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.  I think others have told you about this before.  I'll post what I like, where I like, when I like.  If you dont' like it, then you don't have to read it. [/quote]
Blah, blah, blah.

It was posted before in numerous places, and you could've went back two topics to read what you just posted.  All this "I can do what I want", and "you can stick it where the sun don't shine" defense is hardly necessary.  

What is the purpose of being on a message board if you don't read the messages?

Brandon Brooks [/quote]
Not that this is earth-shattering, but JWJ did initally post the thread starter on "The Big Board" and it was moved here.

Ask your Wildcats to go easy on my Hoosiers Saturday.  :)

Doug -- soon to celebrate 300 posts (all of which are not earth shattering)
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: clemon79 on January 12, 2004, 10:07:59 PM
Ya know, I wonder if The New GSN has any plans to dedicate any programming to coverage of some sort of German-style boardgaming? I'm not talking about live coverage of a Settler's tournament or anything, that would be utterly lame TV, but maybe a short documentary or a bit on a news-type show...
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: inturnaround on January 12, 2004, 10:24:42 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 10:07 PM\'] Ya know, I wonder if The New GSN has any plans to dedicate any programming to coverage of some sort of German-style boardgaming? I'm not talking about live coverage of a Settler's tournament or anything, that would be utterly lame TV, but maybe a short documentary or a bit on a news-type show... [/quote]
 Not sure if you're kidding or not (God knows you and Don Rickles are the kings of sarcasm), but an article in the newest Games magazine covers the basics of BrettspielWelt, the popular German board game website.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: clemon79 on January 12, 2004, 10:26:21 PM
[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 08:24 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 10:07 PM\'] Ya know, I wonder if The New GSN has any plans to dedicate any programming to coverage of some sort of German-style boardgaming? I'm not talking about live coverage of a Settler's tournament or anything, that would be utterly lame TV, but maybe a short documentary or a bit on a news-type show... [/quote]
Not sure if you're kidding or not (God knows you and Don Rickles are the kings of sarcasm), but an article in the newest Games magazine covers the basics of BrettspielWelt, the popular German board game website. [/quote]
 No, I'm dead serious. There are at least a few people here who enjoy German-style games, and if this is gonna be a general gaming network, it might be good exposure for the hobby.

(and yes, I play on BSW. :))
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 12, 2004, 10:30:29 PM
[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 06:28 PM\'] One question I do have here -- what, exactly, is the 'new' GSN aiming for?  Reality shows are certainly at the top of their list, but it seems like they're going in the same direction that the old Nashville Network, among many others, has gone, which is away from their traditional audience.  
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Oh, I do apologize for the harsh tone earlier.  It's not an excuse, but I am on medication for a major ear infection (going on 6 months now!!)  that does include mood swings as a side effect. [/quote]
 Second part first:  OUCH!  Can't even begin to imagine to feel your pain.  Good luck with the new meds.

As to the first:  I think the comparison to The Nashville Network is probably a little too much because the switch from that to Spike TV was so drastically different.  GSN's move toward reality shows seems radical to us because we are, for the most part, traditional fans.  I think many TV fans in general don't see this move as being nearly as dramatic as we do.  And a bunch of folks must be downright confused that GSN is making such a big deal about now being known as GSN.

But yeah, ultimately it's all about attracting a larger, younger audience.  They think they can do that with reruns of more recent reality shows and edgier originals.  Time will tell whether they're right.  In the meantime, they still have an entire programming day to schedule, and large chunks of that time outside of prime time will still be filled with library product.  So we've still got that, and maybe they'll surprise us now and then.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: DrJWJustice on January 12, 2004, 11:04:40 PM
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 08:35 PM\'] What is the purpose of being on a message board if you don't read the messages?
 [/quote]
 Just couldn't resist, could ya?  Typical and predictable.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: DrJWJustice on January 12, 2004, 11:07:12 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 10:26 PM\'] No, I'm dead serious. There are at least a few people here who enjoy German-style games, and if this is gonna be a general gaming network, it might be good exposure for the hobby.

(and yes, I play on BSW. :)) [/quote]
 Hey, they're doing all those Texas Hold 'Em poker games on ESPN, a sports channel covering an event where the 'athletic' part of the game consists of flicking the wrist to throw chips into the betting pile.  I'd believe it if German-style games were to show up on the new GSN.  

Frankly, those celebrity poker games would fit in better on GSN as it is now than they do on ESPN.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: DrJWJustice on January 12, 2004, 11:12:16 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 10:30 PM\'] Second part first:  OUCH!  Can't even begin to imagine to feel your pain.  Good luck with the new meds.
----------------------------------------------------

As to the first:  I think the comparison to The Nashville Network is probably a little too much because the switch from that to Spike TV was so drastically different. [/quote]
 Thanks for your concern on my ear.  I think you can tell from earlier today (med induced, in part) that I'm pretty damn tired of it.  We're doing all we can to keep me from losing my hearing there.  

As for TNN/Spike, I thought its transition was a bit smoother than that.  I used to watch it all the time when it was the Nashville Network.  It then altered its programming to include stuff like Dallas, Star Trek, etc., and then later changed its name to the National Network to reflect its de-emphasis on country music and outdoor lifestyles.  Spike would have happened last summer, but there was the big brouhaha over the name that had to be resolved before they did start using it late last fall.
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: Brandon Brooks on January 12, 2004, 11:36:01 PM
[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 11:04 PM\'] [quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 08:35 PM\'] What is the purpose of being on a message board if you don't read the messages?
 [/quote]
Just couldn't resist, could ya?  Typical and predictable. [/quote]
Just like your ...

You know what, never mind.  I'm not going to waste a pissing match on inane stuff like this.  I wish you would just listen to criticism instead of being so stubborn all the time.

Brandon Brooks
Title: Game Show Network changes
Post by: DrJWJustice on January 13, 2004, 02:23:17 AM
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 11:36 PM\'] I wish you would just listen to criticism instead of being so stubborn all the time.

Brandon Brooks [/quote]
 Hehehehe, and have I ever got a GREAT idea for the "New" GSN's first reality series:  "Pot.  Kettle.  Black"  staring the guy I quoted above.  Maybe do it in the form of "Win Brandon Brooks' Money" -- if he blinks first, you win his dough.  Is $100,000 per episode enough for you, Mr. Brooks?

Actually, such a series could work.  I just hope no Fox execs are reading this thread.