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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: brianhenke on February 03, 2015, 11:29:37 PM
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http://variety.com/2015/data/news/family-feud-continues-ratings-surge-hits-another-high-1201422488/ (http://variety.com/2015/data/news/family-feud-continues-ratings-surge-hits-another-high-1201422488/)
For the week of Jan. 19-25:
WOF 11.925 million viewers, J! 10.896 million, FF 10.247 million
HHR: WOF 7.4, J! 7.0, FF 6.8
Brian
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Hard to miss a show that's on four times a frigging day...
/please pardon my cynicism...I'm just not fully impressed
//impressed, yes, but at the same time...
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To be fair, I don't think Feud has had ratings this high since the Dawson era. Kudos to Steve Harvey for bringing Family Feud back as a game show ratings powerhouse.
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I went to Burger King after work Wednesday night and they had TV Land on. By the time I got my order to go, I had seen the answers "Weenie Beanies", "A Fat Doobie" and "While Doing The Nasty" revealed. That was enough for me.
/Two different questions.
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To be fair, I don't think Feud has had ratings this high since the Dawson era. Kudos to Steve Harvey for bringing Family Feud back as a game show ratings powerhouse.
That is certainly fair, but I wouldn't exactly call it a powerhouse.
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I went to Burger King after work Wednesday night and they had TV Land on. By the time I got my order to go, I had seen the answers "Weenie Beanies", "A Fat Doobie" and "While Doing The Nasty" revealed. That was enough for me.
/Two different questions.
Honestly...this is what bothers me more than the loaded risqué questions, the idiotic euphemisms.
I'm guessing "Weenie Beanies" is condoms?
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Correct. The question for those first two answers was "Name something you'd be shocked to find in your grandmother's nightstand." The question when I was leaving was "Name a time when it would be bad to call your woman by another name."
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I went to Burger King after work Wednesday night and they had TV Land on. By the time I got my order to go, I had seen the answers "Weenie Beanies", "A Fat Doobie" and "While Doing The Nasty" revealed. That was enough for me.
/Two different questions.
Honestly...this is what bothers me more than the loaded risqué questions, the idiotic euphemisms.
Me too. The loaded nature of some of the question can grate at times, but in all seriousness, the writers who approve of stuff like "weenie beanies" need a good stiff whack in the head with a fish.
"Doing the nasty" I could tolerate. To a point.
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"Doing the nasty" I could tolerate. To a point.
At least some people talk like that some times.
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My wife was flipping thru the channels the other day and she stopped at one of what now seems to be 8 airings of Harvey Feud a day. I told her I don't watch it anymore due to all the penis answers.
Not even 30 seconds later, the answer "PET THE PEACOCK" is revealed (don't even know what the question was -- but does it really matter anymore?). Then Harvey goes on to tell the crew that that was one of the best euphemisms used on the show thus far.
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this chatter about all the airings "Family Feud" gets got me wondering how often it actually is on. Just picking this coming monday, here is when I can watch FF in Austin TX:
11am-1pm GSN, 1p-2pm local station, 3-4pm Centric, 5-6pm GSN, 6-7pm local station, 7-8pm TV Land, 9pm-12am GSN.
Yep, 10 hours of your day, "Family Feud" is available.
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My wife was flipping thru the channels the other day and she stopped at one of what now seems to be 8 airings of Harvey Feud a day. I told her I don't watch it anymore due to all the penis answers.
Again, this whole "phallic Feud" thing is incredibly overblown. Those who are complaining now, I theorize, largely weren't watching before this alleged shift toward wiener jokes either.
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Again, this whole "phallic Feud" thing is incredibly overblown. Those who are complaining now, I theorize, largely weren't watching before this alleged shift toward wiener jokes either.
I watched before, now I don't. Call it alleged, theorize all you want; it happened and though some new people are watching and the ratings are higher because of multiple airings, it is turning some people off. I'm not the only one.
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I watched before, now I don't. Call it alleged, theorize all you want; it happened and though some new people are watching and the ratings are higher because of multiple airings, it is turning some people off. I'm not the only one.
You're not. I could tolerate the constant mugging, but the middle school euphemisms are downright annoying. And I'm a guy who likes his immature euphemisms.
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I'm actually a bit surprised by all the bemoaning of how the FF questions have changed. If you've been watching closely since this incarnation began in 1999, it's slowly been coming on, just far more so in the past few years. To be fair to FF, they're hardly an anomaly.
The original "Wheel" puzzles were amazingly simple by comparison, the "Jeopardy" clues of the 1970's were bare boned and simple, so for "Feud" a question of "Name a famous George" just wouldn't cut it in 2015. Now for "Wheel" and "Jeopardy", it's obvious how you keep up with the times, the puzzles are a long way removed from "Judy Garland" for a Person and "I Shall Return" for a phrase. "Jeopardy" has clues which are far longer then they were, and they can keep up with history and new events. A game that relies on the less defined "correct answer" will inevitably wind up going down this road. Look at the precedent, it's called "Match Game", questions like "name a type of muffin" didn't bring in the ratings.
The viewers have spoken, and this is your FF for 2015. My last thought, shows like this that come on so strong, and get such heavy (over) exposure so fast, burn out very quickly. "Family Feud" is today what Howard Stern was in 1997, a hot commodity that you saw absolutely everywhere. But, once you can't push the limit any further, the audience slowly gets tired of it.
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Isn't Jerry Springer a better example to use in the above analogy? I don't really think that Howard Stern went as far as Springer did in regards to envelope pushing during that particular period.
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I watched before, now I don't. Call it alleged, theorize all you want; it happened and though some new people are watching and the ratings are higher because of multiple airings, it is turning some people off. I'm not the only one.
You're not. I could tolerate the constant mugging, but the middle school euphemisms are downright annoying. And I'm a guy who likes his immature euphemisms.
Exactly, I love a good dirty joke as much as the next guy, but don't force the humor. That just reeks of desperation.
A few months ago, I linked to I think a Reddit thread, where the posters also had their gripes about how it was getting stale. I think the difference between Feud 2015 and Match Game 74 is that, back then, there was still an envelope to push. Now with shows like South Park, Family Guy and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, something like "meat missile" just doesn't have any shock value.
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Again, this whole "phallic Feud" thing is incredibly overblown. Those who are complaining now, I theorize, largely weren't watching before this alleged shift toward wiener jokes either.
Your theory is wrong in my household, too.
"Family Feud" is today what Howard Stern was in 1997, a hot commodity that you saw absolutely everywhere. But, once you can't push the limit any further, the audience slowly gets tired of it.
Bingo. Andrew "Dice" Who?
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People still use the term "meat missile"?
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I haven't heard it in years, that was just the first thing I could think of.
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I've got a -1500 money line on "meat missile" having been used at least once on that show.
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Isn't Jerry Springer a better example to use in the above analogy? I don't really think that Howard Stern went as far as Springer did in regards to envelope pushing during that particular period.
the reason I use Howard, is around 1997 he had a cable AND CBS TV show, a movie, he was getting "60 minutes" and "Dateline" exposure, and he peaked with the number of radio stations he had. Shortly after that, he lost the CBS show, and slowly started losing radio stations. He had been around since the 80's but peaked strongly, and vanished from that "top of mind" status which he had.
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My wife was flipping thru the channels the other day and she stopped at one of what now seems to be 8 airings of Harvey Feud a day. I told her I don't watch it anymore due to all the penis answers.
Again, this whole "phallic Feud" thing is incredibly overblown. Those who are complaining now, I theorize, largely weren't watching before this alleged shift toward wiener jokes either.
I would strongly argue that it doesn't help gain an audience of relatively intelligent people which seems to be a desirable demographic due to having more disposable income etc. Of course I could be entirely wrong too. Either way I would be very interested in seeing the demographics for the show, specifically income and education level.
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Isn't Jerry Springer a better example to use in the above analogy? I don't really think that Howard Stern went as far as Springer did in regards to envelope pushing during that particular period.
the reason I use Howard, is around 1997 he had a cable AND CBS TV show, a movie, he was getting "60 minutes" and "Dateline" exposure, and he peaked with the number of radio stations he had. Shortly after that, he lost the CBS show, and slowly started losing radio stations. He had been around since the 80's but peaked strongly, and vanished from that "top of mind" status which he had.
Actually, Howard only had the E! show. The show you're thinking of, which was actually syndicated, came a year later and stuck around for a couple of years. I would target the end of that show, in 2001, as when everything stopped coming up roses for him.
Springer had the meteoric rise to the top of the talk show heap in 1997, and it all went away just as quick. Hence why I say it's a better example to cite.
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Count me in on the group that stopped watching Feud when it started veering toward the phallic stuff. I was pretty interested when the YouTube channel made it clear "Yes, we've finally gotten a host who will rip apart the dumb answers!", but then they started slanting the questions toward getting "YouTube Moments" and I stopped caring.
I'm with Dale on this one -- I'll laugh at immature euphemisms, sure, but keep shoving it down my throat and I won't be laughing at all. Even Steve's ragging on dumb answers has gotten stale for me.
the "Jeopardy" clues of the 1970's were bare boned and simple,
To be fair, the Jeopardy! clues were (relatively) simple because of the amount of space they had on each of those pull-cards, and even then the clues during the 1960s were sometimes only a few words if not just one. (Well, that and they weren't exactly playing for high stakes on the original NBC series unless it was a TOC.)
Now for "Wheel" and "Jeopardy", it's obvious how you keep up with the times, the puzzles are a long way removed from "Judy Garland" for a Person and "I Shall Return" for a phrase.
Well, these days it'd be AWARD-WINNING ACTRESS JUDY GARLAND as a Proper Name and I SHALL RETURN WITH THE NACHO DIP as a Prize Puzzle Phrase. :P
The issue with Wheel is that they don't really keep up with current films, books, TV shows, songs, etc. as much as they used to (hell, on one of the clip shows Vanna boasted that the puzzles always keep up with the times) -- Song Lyrics and Song Title are particularly bad at using stuff after about the 1970s.
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The issue with Wheel is that they don't really keep up with current films, books, TV shows, songs, etc. as much as they used to (hell, on one of the clip shows Vanna boasted that the puzzles always keep up with the times) -- Song Lyrics and Song Title are particularly bad at using stuff after about the 1970s.
I'd pay good money to see a contestant say BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT THAT BASS, BOUT THAT BASS, NO TREBLE*. :-P
I've mentioned this before, but it seems like they'd get more puzzles in by keeping them short, like your JUDY GARLAND example. Of course, contestants can't build up as much money on an 11-letter puzzle.
*/Yes, I know it probably doesn't even fit on the board
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The original "Wheel" puzzles were amazingly simple by comparison,
If the show wanted to have shorter puzzles in the main game as well as the bonus round they could do so.
the "Jeopardy" clues of the 1970's were bare boned and simple,
And sometimes they are today as well. So what?
so for "Feud" a question of "Name a famous George" just wouldn't cut it in 2015.
Why not? They do Super Match-style "Fill in the blank questions" today. Are you asserting that the fact that they don't do the short and brief questions explains or is part of the uptick?
The viewers have spoken, and this is your FF for 2015.
Mazel tov. Wake me when it's over. I'm not even going to go deeper into the "damned lies and statistics" angle where I believe that the show's ratings are inflated because of multiple airings, because you're entrenched in your position.
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I'd pay good money to see a contestant say BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT THAT BASS, BOUT THAT BASS, NO TREBLE*. :-P
I've mentioned this before, but it seems like they'd get more puzzles in by keeping them short, like your JUDY GARLAND example. Of course, contestants can't build up as much money on an 11-letter puzzle.
*/Yes, I know it probably doesn't even fit on the board
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Honestly, I think the penis jokes criticism was overblown last season. Last season, there actually seemed to be a down tick in the number of answers and jokes. Unfortunately, this season, there is now the rise of the ridiculous euphemism, which has extended into the other body parts besides the "vertical helicopter".
I find Steve Harvey funny and I still enjoy the actual game of Family Feud that gets played, so I still watch the show. Granted, I don't watch the show's bazillion reruns across the cablesphere. I only watch the first and second-run. It's actually been pretty interesting this season. There seems to be a concerted effort to get a solo 200 in Fast Money. There have been a lot more questions with #1 answers in the fifties than I seem to remember in previous seasons. The highest I saw this season was a 58. This playing (http://i.imgur.com/DKGIg2V.jpg) from last week saw the first player amass 191 points (which Steve claimed was the best he ever saw). They got 4/5 number ones with only "School" being the hold-out for "Name a place where you might get in trouble for falling asleep." It's not a lock, but I wouldn't be surprised if the #1 answer for that question (which was "Work") was worth 39+ points.
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I'm not even going to go deeper into the "damned lies and statistics" angle where I believe that the show's ratings are inflated because of multiple airings, because you're entrenched in your position.
Then why hasn't Feud been pulling in these kind of ratings since 1999?
There may certainly be some inflation of the ratings, but to dismiss the rise totally based solely on the fact that the show airs multiple times a day ignores one basic fact: the show was sold that way from the start and has been sold that way for fifteen years.
If there is inflation going on, how much could there be realistically? I don't believe that much, considering that only a few years ago the show was pulling in sub-2.0 ratings for the same set of episodes.
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If a show airs four times a day instead of two, does the show get two hours worth of ratings? That may not cause a doubling of what the amount would be if it was just an hour whenever it was on, but it's a nonzero increase.
To JJ's thing: Church was my answer.
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There's two separate double runs. One consists strictly of reruns in the manner of weekend Wheel and Jeopardy, the other is your traditional double run. I would say that those would count separately in ratings.
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I have many more casual friends, family, and the like talking about Feud now than I've had since the early 90's. And none of these people have said they're turned off by the current stack of questions. Unscientific? Yes. But 10, or even 5 years ago, the most common reaction to mentioning Feud was "Oh, that's still on?"
I bet if there were message boards in the 70's, people would be complaining about Match Game and how the questions were so much more wholesome in the sixties.
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I bet if there were message boards in the 70's, people would be complaining about Match Game and how the questions were so much more wholesome in the sixties.
Except...they kinda weren't. Hopefully I'm remembering all this correctly...
The "name something" questions were used early on, but when the show got cancelled at one point (1964?) question writer Dick DeBartolo suggested to Goodson that they write "wacky"/"silly" questions for the few weeks the show still had on NBC's schedule (DeBartolo also wrote for MAD magazine at this point, so this wouldn't have been too much of a stretch for him) -- and Mark, reasonably assuming The Match Game couldn't get canned again, gave the go-ahead. The ratings jumped, NBC renewed the show, and they continued on with the silly questions through the end in '69.
Even then, the "name something" questions were used early in the 70s run before being ousted entirely, with the "wacky" questions getting stranger as the CBS era went on.
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I have many more casual friends, family, and the like talking about Feud now than I've had since the early 90's. And none of these people have said they're turned off by the current stack of questions. Unscientific? Yes.
It would be more scientific and useful if you were to ask them "would you be put off by seeing "male missile" "turd cutter" or "dong sarong" on the board.
Match Game 1973 (and really, from 1974 on drew humor from implication and double entendre. Match Game 1998 forced the issue and made no bones about what the right answer was supposed to be. It was a different cultural period in 1973 than 1998. The fact that Family Feud puts out the sort of content they do tells you either what kind of audience they desire or what they feel they have to do in order to draw eyeballs.