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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: brianhenke on September 08, 2014, 08:09:27 PM
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Well, WCPO just aired the season premiere of Let's Ask America that marked the debut of Bill Bellamy as host.
First, the top prize has been decreased to $35,000.
The maingame question values have been changed:
Round 1: $100/$150/$200/$300 (last placed contestant is eliminated, same as before)
Round 2: $500//$750/$1000 (last placed contestant is eliminated)
Round 3: $1500/$2500 (last placed contestant is eliminated)
The bonus round is played as last season (if contestant goes all in and misses, he/she gets nothing - which I didn't like last year, and still don't).
Now, as for Bellamy, I found him a tad annoying. He started by saying, "WHASSSSUP?" Let's face it, I wasn't expecting him to imitate Kevin, but....let's give him time to grow into his host role.
Brian
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(if contestant goes all in and misses, he/she gets nothing - which I didn't like last year, and still don't).
The solution to that problem on the contestant's end is quite simple.
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(if contestant goes all in and misses, he/she gets nothing - which I didn't like last year, and still don't).
The solution to that problem on the contestant's end is quite simple.
I'm with Brian here. You want to make it enticing for the contestant to risk it all, I think you need to leave some fallback. $1,000 is fine.
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I'm with Brian here. You want to make it enticing for the contestant to risk it all, I think you need to leave some fallback. $1,000 is fine.
Well, I'm sure the two of you will be very happy together.
Do you feel that there aren't enough people going all-in because of this? Is there evidence to back that up?
(I'm asking that genuinely; they don't run this in Seattle.)
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I'm with Brian here. You want to make it enticing for the contestant to risk it all, I think you need to leave some fallback. $1,000 is fine.
Well, I'm sure the two of you will be very happy together.
Do you feel that there aren't enough people going all-in because of this? Is there evidence to back that up?
(I'm asking that genuinely; they don't run this in Seattle.)
Potshot aside, and they don't air it here either, but from what I've seen so far there hasn't been too many people pulling the trigger since they eliminated the consolation prize. The season one eps seemed to have more risk takers.
I'd like to see more figures, if possible.
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but from what I've seen so far there hasn't been too many people pulling the trigger since they eliminated the consolation prize.
So they had one before?
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Yes. A failed all-in gave you $1,000 for playing in the first season.
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but from what I've seen so far there hasn't been too many people pulling the trigger since they eliminated the consolation prize.
So they had one before?
IIRC, if you risked it all and lost, you went home with $1,000.
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What Messrs. Platt and Foster-Gray said thirty and change seconds apart. Season two saw it become an all-or-nothing bet if the wad was shot.
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Hmmm, ok.
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As GSN was the first time I actually got to watch the show (and still is, the NY area doesn't have it either), I was under a false impression about season 2, and to be honest, I think said impression is what they should actually do.
To clarify, I'm a believer in how McGrath's Don't Forget the Lyrics played its bonus round, in that, if you wanted to guarantee yourself the $1,000 consolation prize, you had to play a perfect $10,000 game coming into it. The same argument could be made for LAA since, even with my limited view of the show, I think going 9 for 9 on these surveys that amount to guessing human nature is a lot harder than knowing all the missing factual words to 4 popular songs.
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I have no idea what you're saying, Brian...that guessing survey answers means you should get to take home a consolation prize if you fail it on your Big Bet?
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No wait, you're misunderstanding me, Travis. I'm saying you should get that guaranteed consolation prize only if you answered every question right coming into the bonus round. Like on DFTL, if you gave the lyrics right to all 4 songs, you had $10K, and you went for the encore for the full $50K, but fail and you still left with $1K. But if you had failed any of those 4 songs, screwing up the encore busted you completely.
I'm saying that LAA should take a similar approach to that. If you play a perfect game and get all 9 surveys right in the first three rounds, going all in for the bonus round and missing would still allow you to leave with the $1K as consolation because hey, you did everything right up until that point, it deserved some credit. But if you even missed one of those first 9, then an all in on the final question is all or nothing, no guarantee, you screw it up, you bust, too bad.
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Erm, one of those is a test of knowledge, the other is a game surrounding the vagaries of surveys. How you think the two are analogs completely baffles me.
/neverminding that you want more than twice the number of correct answers
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So why am I being penalized for missing one question?
By not allowing me to have that extra bit of leeway unless I've played the perfect game, you're just encouraging me not to bet big and just simply play conservatively and save my money.
As somebody who's taken a big gamble on a quiz show, having the fallback does make it sting a little less if you whiffed on it. As I did.
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As somebody who's taken a big gamble on a quiz show, having the fallback does make it sting a little less if you whiffed on it. As I did.
If we're playing Palmer Bingo, mark the Moe Train (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1906) Memorial Square on your cards.
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I wouldn't go that far: Moe brought up his impending appearance every day, then on the day of the scheduled broadcast, every hour. Then after the collective silence from our group, he disappeared, ne'er to be heard from again.
As I've mentioned previously, I don't particularly care for the Big Horkin' Final Question in the way that LAA does it, but the show doesn't air in my market so I don't think about it much.
Chris is right: knowing that there's a consolation prize does soften the blow of losing nearly everything.
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I wouldn't go that far: Moe brought up his impending appearance every day, then on the day of the scheduled broadcast, every hour. Then after the collective silence from our group, he disappeared, ne'er to be heard from again.
I'm not going to dig through thousands of posts, but it does come up several times a month, many occasions that are superfluous. "Say, who here has been on Millionaire? Remember, like me?". Which, you know, would be more palatable if it was from a half million dollar winner. But someone who let well-documented hubris get in the way of cashing in big? It's great that he made it on and he wants to keep talking about it and I'm happy he has a treasured life experience with Hat Man, but it's been a year. Others have been on shows around the same time and talk about it 10% as frequently.
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The takeaway here is that no one should ever look back fondly on a thing that happened in their life, and certainly not mention it publicly.
/and Millionaire, 1 vs. 100, Password, the various iterations of Playmania...did I forget any?
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And I went down a level on Password, don't forget that. But does it up come in conversations all the time? Certainly not.
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But does it up come in conversations all the time? Certainly not.
And I suspect that in due time the mentions of Chris P. on Millionaire will subside as well. And at the time I recall you did seem to mention your own appearances quite a lot.
(This is all completely straight, no jokes or snideness or anything on my part)
When you got to be on Jeopardy, I assume you told everyone who would listen and wanted people to watch and share in the joy of you reaching a life-list thing. That's to be expected; it is a big deal and something to be proud of. Ditto for Millionaire. It is a big hairy deal to get on a national game show, win or lose. Even if you lose, you were able to get farther on the ladder than lots of people who try out and don't make it past the Scantron or audition phase.
Given that you have made it to the pinnacle many, many times (and to that end, more times by a lot than most people who will try out will get) why not let Chris P. have his moment in the sun? And you're right, he wasn't a big winner but not everyone can be. The membership here isn't going to think more or less of him because of how well he did on the show, we've all made our judgments and at this point my eyes glide past his mentions of the show, and pointing out yet again that he's mentioning it doesn't mean we think worse of him for saying it or better of you for pointing it out. It's just more texts to get to what we're talking about.
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That's a fine enough assessment. We're probably going to agree to disagree, but I respect your perspective.
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The membership here isn't going to think more or less of him because of how well he did on the show, we've all made our judgments and at this point my eyes glide past his mentions of the show, and pointing out yet again that he's mentioning it doesn't mean we think worse of him for saying it or better of you for pointing it out. It's just more texts to get to what we're talking about.
This part is debatable.
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As somebody who's taken a big gamble on a quiz show, having the fallback does make it sting a little less if you whiffed on it. As I did.
If we're playing Palmer Bingo, mark the Moe Train (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1906) Memorial Square on your cards.
I'm actually giving him credit for not coming in here Chris Farley/Rob Ford style and trying to bodyslam you for this.
/Unless he has you on his ignore list.
//I would have paid to watch him do one of his verbal assaults on Cedric and/or the production staff after the Please Leave Now Red Lights came down.
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I wouldn't go that far: Moe brought up his impending appearance every day, then on the day of the scheduled broadcast, every hour. Then after the collective silence from our group, he disappeared, ne'er to be heard from again.
I'm not going to dig through thousands of posts, but it does come up several times a month, many occasions that are superfluous. "Say, who here has been on Millionaire? Remember, like me?". Which, you know, would be more palatable if it was from a half million dollar winner. But someone who let well-documented hubris get in the way of cashing in big? It's great that he made it on and he wants to keep talking about it and I'm happy he has a treasured life experience with Hat Man, but it's been a year. Others have been on shows around the same time and talk about it 10% as frequently.
You know something, I have a major problem with a lot of things in this post.
First of all, I have a problem with you criticizing me for bringing up something pertinent to this discussion by misrepresenting what happened. Hubris played no role in my decision to try and answer the question (to say otherwise is to bear false witness) and I should've walked away. But I found myself in a situation where I had feared for the entire two weeks leading up to it: stuck, without lifelines, on a question where I didn't know for sure but couldn't convince myself not to potentially run the risk of losing all that money on a one-out-of-four shot. It sure didn't stop you from uploading the episode to YouTube, did it?
And I'm sorry you're offended by me mentioning it. I feel the same way about a large majority of what you say as well, but for the most part I keep it to myself. Especially when I see posts about popcorn and incontinent animals. I'm sorry I couldn't set a record* for most winnings for a contestant who decided to walk away. Does that make you better than me?
I'll keep my pertinent comments to myself next time. Lest I offend The Great All-Knowing Chad Mosher's sensibilities.
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The membership here isn't going to think more or less of him because of how well he did on the show, we've all made our judgments and at this point my eyes glide past his mentions of the show, and pointing out yet again that he's mentioning it doesn't mean we think worse of him for saying it or better of you for pointing it out. It's just more texts to get to what we're talking about.
This part is debatable.
Please elaborate, Mark, because I'm legitimately curious as to where you're going with this.
//I would have paid to watch him do one of his verbal assaults on Cedric and/or the production staff after the Please Leave Now Red Lights came down.
Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people would've loved to have seen that.
I'm sure now that most of you were watching to see me fail. Well, congratulations, you got your wish. Me taken down a peg. That's what so many of you wanted, right?
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I'm sure now that most of you were watching to see me fail.
FWIW, I didn't even watch.
/the martyr card, as per usual, does not become you
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I'm sure now that most of you were watching to see me fail.
FWIW, I didn't even watch.
/the martyr card, as per usual, does not become you
You feel.I played it, that's your opinion and you're entitlted to it. It certainly wasn't intentional if I did.
Doesn't make my statement completely false though. I know people were watching just to see me fall on my face, among those that did.
ETA: I probably would've been better off just leaving it be, but I'm gonna be damned if I let someone like Chad come after me like that.
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Doesn't make my statement completely false though. I know people were watching just to see me fall on my face, among those that did.
Never for a second did I question the veracity of the comment. I'm certain it's accurate. The part that baffles me is that you are apparently just figuring this out now.
But if you don't think "You got what you wanted, something bad happened to me, are you happy now?" is playing the victim, then those blinders are on more tightly than even I thought.
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Doesn't make my statement completely false though. I know people were watching just to see me fall on my face, among those that did.
Never for a second did I question the veracity of the comment. I'm certain it's accurate. The part that baffles me is that you are apparently just figuring this out now.
But if you don't think "You got what you wanted, something bad happened to me, are you happy now?" is playing the victim, then those blinders are on more tightly than even I thought.
I had it figured out a long time ago. I just would rather not acknowledge it because it doesn't make a difference to me in the long run, and some people just aren't worth it.
I also know you can read what I said as playing victim, sure. But I'm saying it in another manner too- as in, "well Mr. Burns, you've certainly vanquished all your enemies: the elementary school, the local tavern, the old age home...you must be very proud." Feel free to interpret however you wish.
ETA: I know I've been quick to bring up my experience a lot. Maybe at times a little too much. I don't do it to rub it in and apologize if at times it comes off like that. Sure, my display name includes the word "Thousandaire" and I did it on purpose. I'm not going to be made to be embarrassed about it, though. And I'm not going to let people misrepresent things just to take swipes at me because they don't like me. That's why I went off on Chad and I am not going to apologize for doing it. Whatever you feel about me is one thing. To say I shouldn't talk about something I did because I didn't win enough money to justify somebody's standards is wrong. And if the shoe was on the other foot I could certainly do the same thing Chad did to me to him. But I wouldn't do that. Because it ain't easy to get there, much less get there and win something. And you're even luckier if you get that call multiple times.
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The membership here isn't going to think more or less of him because of how well he did on the show, we've all made our judgments and at this point my eyes glide past his mentions of the show, and pointing out yet again that he's mentioning it doesn't mean we think worse of him for saying it or better of you for pointing it out. It's just more texts to get to what we're talking about.
This part is debatable.
Please elaborate, Mark, because I'm legitimately curious as to where you're going with this.
Nowhere now, as I misread Travis' post as solely about you, not about you as well as Chad.
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I had it figured out a long time ago. I just would rather not acknowledge it because it doesn't make a difference to me in the long run, and some people just aren't worth it.
That's fair. Saying "I now know" suggested otherwise, tho. All I'm saying.
I'm not going to be made to be embarrassed about it, though.
Nor should you be. The primary reason people are throwing shade at you about it is because you'd already made the bed in the past ridiculing Millionaire contestants who similarly crashed and burned with (at the time) no clue as to what the actual experience was like. So you might understand how some people might find the taste of schadenfreude satisfying.
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I had it figured out a long time ago. I just would rather not acknowledge it because it doesn't make a difference to me in the long run, and some people just aren't worth it.
That's fair. Saying "I now know" suggested otherwise, tho. All I'm saying.
I understand. Believe me. I could've chosen a better set of words to get my point across.
I'm not going to be made to be embarrassed about it, though.
Nor should you be. The primary reason people are throwing shade at you about it is because you'd already made the bed in the past ridiculing Millionaire contestants who similarly crashed and burned with (at the time) no clue as to what the actual experience was like. So you might understand how some people might find the taste of schadenfreude satisfying.
So it is. But I would argue I do that more to Jeopardy! contestants than Millionaire contestants, only for accuracy's sake (doesn't excuse it either way, but I stand for accuracy dammit ;) ). I did sort of acknowledge I did that, though, when I was in studio (I forget if it made the final cut) and I admitted that if I was sitting at home and not staring down the big blue screen I would probably be yelling at the TV with the right answer and criticizing myself for not doing something a certain way. I find myself, when I watch now, still playing along and still talking to the TV but I'm more "don't do it, be smart, don't do what I did" than "what the hell were you thinking you moron, that was so easy." I don't know if you'd consider that better, but it does kinda change the perspective once you've been there and done that.
And certainly Travis is right. Eventually my bringing it up will subside, if only for the fact that I'll eventually tire of it. If you don't like the fact that I'm still doing it you may feel free to do that. I'm not gonna fault you for it. But don't allow that dislike to justify being an ass. I don't appreciate it when Don keeps bringing up that stupid heat-of-the-moment statement I made and I'm gonna be even less appreciative when someone craps on me talking about my experience because it wasn't as profitable as it could've been. I've seen some pretty stupid things said in regards to it, with my favorite being the idiot who posted a comment on the original upload (which has since been taken down- the comment, not the vid) saying "I bet if the questions were about Doritos and Twinkies he would've won the million" (irony, considering what did me in...?) and a close second goes to the idiot who linked me to an article about a guy who shares my human Wikipedia nickname and who is definitely more deserving of it trying to make me feel stupid and say I'm not deserving of the nickname (instead I'm now following the guy on Twitter and admiring what this guy knows).
Bottom line, I say again: I got there, I got in, I got paid, I got on TV, I got my dream. All positives, all that needs to be said. And if I keep saying it it's only because it still feels surreal to me after all this time.