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Mind of a Man will not return for a second season, after only averaging 257,000 viewers in forty episodes of new runs
The Chase will be renewed for a fourth season by GSN, which has averaged 544,000 total viewers this summer thus far.
American Bible Challenge and It Takes a Church are expected to be cancelled. Bible Season 3 averaged 550,000 viewers, down 33% from Season 2. It Takes a Church averaged 368,000 viewers, with steady drops and weak 18-49 demo throughout the season.
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Mind of a Man will not return for a second season, after only averaging 257,000 viewers in forty episodes of new runs
The Chase will be renewed for a fourth season by GSN, which has averaged 544,000 total viewers this summer thus far.
American Bible Challenge and It Takes a Church are expected to be cancelled. Bible Season 3 averaged 550,000 viewers, down 33% from Season 2. It Takes a Church averaged 368,000 viewers, with steady drops and weak 18-49 demo throughout the season.
Sources please. As if you didn't know this was coming.
Tyshaun
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Mind of a Man will not return for a second season, after only averaging 257,000 viewers in forty episodes of new runs
The Chase will be renewed for a fourth season by GSN, which has averaged 544,000 total viewers this summer thus far.
American Bible Challenge and It Takes a Church are expected to be cancelled. Bible Season 3 averaged 550,000 viewers, down 33% from Season 2. It Takes a Church averaged 368,000 viewers, with steady drops and weak 18-49 demo throughout the season.
Sources please. As if you didn't know this was coming.
This, and I have seen casting calls for a new season of It Takes a Church on GSN within the last week.
Related to Mind of a Man's cancellation, I noticed last night that Mind of a Man was removed from GSN On Demand on my cable system. (And Idiotest isn't on demand yet.)
If this is true, hooray for another season of The Chase, not only because it's the best thing GSN has going right now, but I'm in the pool for season 4.
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Mind of a Man will not return for a second season, after only averaging 257,000 viewers in forty episodes of new runs
The Chase will be renewed for a fourth season by GSN, which has averaged 544,000 total viewers this summer thus far.
American Bible Challenge and It Takes a Church are expected to be cancelled. Bible Season 3 averaged 550,000 viewers, down 33% from Season 2. It Takes a Church averaged 368,000 viewers, with steady drops and weak 18-49 demo throughout the season.
Sources please. As if you didn't know this was coming.
Ass, M.Y. (2014). How I Source my News. New York: Steroid Adventures Press.
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Ass, M.Y. (2014). How I Source my News. New York: Steroid Adventures Press.
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.
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Ass, M.Y. (2014). How I Source my News. New York: Steroid Adventures Press.
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.
I quite enjoyed that!
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Ass, M.Y. (2014). How I Source my News. New York: Steroid Adventures Press.
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.
Agreed. I lol'd.
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It Takes a Church (is) expected to be cancelled.
Wrong. www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/gsns-chase-takes-a-church-726861
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Jesus, can we get the guy who posts false information as fact GONE already, just like we have others in the past?
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Don't let it get lost in the skewering of Scott/Allison/Nicole that The Chase's renewal is for another 20 episodes, when this current season's 13 haven't even finished airing yet. Great news for that program.
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Don't let it get lost in the skewering of Scott/Allison/Nicole that The Chase's renewal is for another 20 episodes, when this current season's 13 haven't even finished airing yet. Great news for that program.
That might be good news, but I have to say, in these last few weeks, the contestant casting (in terms of ability to play the game) has been somewhat questionable. If I don't start seeing some teams who can give Mark a run for his money in there sometime soon, I am going to lose interest. I can't tell you the last time I saw a team get 20 steps into a Final Chase, and that's the number I consider to be the bare minimum to have a decent shot.
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You have got to be frigging kidding me. No remorse, no nothing.
Get RID of this clown already.
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Surprise
I knew some news was coming today: The Chase has been renewed but to my surprise, It Takes a Church has been renewed as well.
Good for GSN.
Take a little advice from a journalist: most reputable news sources (even piddly little game show blogs) issue a correction or retraction when they've been called out on posting wrong information, and not just ignore what's thrown at them. You need to 1) correct your error regarding It Takes a Church, and 2) not pass off your BS speculation as fact. That is, if you ever want to be seen as credible, and not just regurgitate whatever you read elsewhere. As long as you can continue to post whatever game show numbers get you off, it's irrelevant to you.
Problem is, it's nothing but noise when you continue your erroneous ways.
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Church was on the bubble this whole time
Which is what you should have said all along. Instead, you said:
American Bible Challenge and It Takes a Church are expected to be cancelled.
Now, what you mean here is "I think GSN will cancel It Takes A Church". But again, you seem completely oblivious to the fact that you shouldn't mix your own guesses and assumptions into the "news" you still seem to want so desperately to "report". At what point are you going to step up and recognize the mistakes you make so very frequently?
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I agree that they do have to be careful with the casting on The Chase- Mark's only lost once on this set of eps I believe? Not saying you need a trio of Jennings/Rutter/Forrest every week (though it'd be interesting to have a special show with one or two of them), but they need a fighting chance...
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I caught a glimpse of Tuesday's episode (aired at 11pm EST I believe).
I think the team of two got to the 17th step with a $55K bank, to The Beast's 13. However, he caught up with them with about :20 to go. I admit I haven't really seen too many eps., so I don't know whether that's an "average" performance or not.
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I think the team of two got to the 17th step with a $55K bank, to The Beast's 13. However, he caught up with them with about :20 to go. I admit I haven't really seen too many eps., so I don't know whether that's an "average" performance or not.
That's actually been pretty good compared to other recent teams. Which should tell you something.
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I'm still looking to see if two people from my audition group made it through. They passed the test and I didn't.
/they're two of the three former J! winners I mentioned
//including the one I thought I had a nice butt
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/they're two of the three former J! winners I mentioned
//including the one I thought I had a nice butt
I'm sure he appreciates the compliment.
I'm gonna catch hell from Chris for that one...
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/they're two of the three former J! winners I mentioned
//including the one I thought I had a nice butt
I'm sure he appreciates the compliment.
I'm gonna catch hell from Chris for that one...
To be fair, the third one was a dude.
And I didn't look at his ass, so I couldn't tell you. ;)
While I've got this thread temporarily hijacked, I noticed that whenever I try out for a show I inevitably meet someone from Texas. What is it about New York based auditions that draw people from Texas?
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The Chase (http://www.chasecasting.com/)has announced casting for season four. In September, they'll head to Los Angeles, Washington DC, Houston, New York City, Chicago and San Francisco. In October, they'll visit Indianapolis, Boston and Seattle. If you don't live near enough to a casting site, you can apply via video as well.
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Oog. Submit a photo.
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The Chase (http://www.chasecasting.com/)has announced casting for season four. In September, they'll head to Los Angeles, Washington DC, Houston, New York City, Chicago and San Francisco. In October, they'll visit Indianapolis, Boston and Seattle. If you don't live near enough to a casting site, you can apply via video as well.
Hmm. Don't know if I should.
But I did.
I'll study this time.
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What's the process at the audition site?
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What's the process at the audition site?
They bring you in, give you a name tag, and then videotape you for a brief moment when you come in the room.
Then they give you a.written test, with the questions relayed from a recording. When grading is done, you are told whether or not you passed and if you didn't your audition is over (think Jeopardy audition process without the video).
I invite others who have gotten beyond that point to fill in what happens next.
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What's the process at the audition site?
Confirm your appointment, get a head shot taken by a contestant coordinator, take a 50 question test once everybody is seated and you sign off on some paperwork, wait, find out who passed the test, play about a dozen multiple choice questions with the remaining folks, leave, then pray you get the callback for the next day.
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...play about a dozen multiple choice questions with the remaining folks...
Based on my experience: they'll have you stand at the front of the room in a line for this part, and if at all possible, stand at one end or the other, not in the middle. (Because you're supposed to explain your answer and they only started down the line at one end or the other -- I had trouble coming up with "new" ways to explain how I knew an answer, and don't feel like I ever got to express an "original" thought.)
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...play about a dozen multiple choice questions with the remaining folks...
Based on my experience: they'll have you stand at the front of the room in a line for this part, and if at all possible, stand at one end or the other, not in the middle. (Because you're supposed to explain your answer and they only started down the line at one end or the other -- I had trouble coming up with "new" ways to explain how I knew an answer, and don't feel like I ever got to express an "original" thought.)
They did that at my tryout as well. Though I was placed in the middle, I was able to come up with correct answers with unique reasoning. My problems were I got the callback when I was closer to home than Chicago (roughly 4 hours east of Chicago, about 2 hours from home) and I had commitments the next day (Easter Sunday).
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Day 2 of the audition is some solo interview time with the casting coordinators, a full mock round of Cash Builder and Chase, and then three potential contestants get put together for a mock Final Chase, complete with buzzers.
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I often wondered what would happen on The Chase if The Beast caught all three contestants. A recent episode gave us the answer. I still think it's one of the best shows GSN has.
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I often wondered what would happen on The Chase if The Beast caught all three contestants. A recent episode gave us the answer. I still think it's one of the best shows GSN has.
Our version is both higher stakes and harder than across the Atlantic, where all three go up against the chaser for the princely sum of £1,000.
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Our version is both higher stakes and harder than across the Atlantic, where all three
All four, you mean?
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Our version is both higher stakes and harder than across the Atlantic, where all three go up against the chaser for the princely sum of £1,000.
one player takes on the final chase, winning 4k for the team in a victory.
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I stand corrected. The three vs. four on the team was a slip of the brain, and I'm not sure where I'm remembering of those rules from.
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I'm really happy about The Chase's renewal for 20 new episodes, especially because they brought the show over and didn't compromise to add useless video packages and gimmicks.
The contestants this season haven't had much luck at all. I wonder if having less winers this time around contributed to the larger order (i.e. More budget for next season since nobody is winning this season)
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The contestants this season haven't had much luck at all been utter dumbasses.
Fixed that for you. The lack of success has had nothing to do with "luck" and everything to do with just plain being morons. They have been poorer-quality players, not unlucky. Bottom line.
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Statistically compared to other seasons, this season's Final Chase averages are middling. These numbers discount the steps given at the start for x people making it through, it's solely steps earned by correct answers.
First aired batch of 6 episodes: An average of 13 steps earned with an average of 2 people playing the Final Chase
Second aired batch of 11 episodes: An average of 14.9 steps earned with an average of 2.18 people playing the Final Chase
So far in the current batch of episodes (8 episodes aired): An average of 13.75 steps earned with an average of 2.25 people playing the Final Chase (including the consolation Chase being counted as one person playing. Discounting that makes the average 2.13 people.)
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How much "on-screen" money has been given out this season?
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How much "on-screen" money has been given out this season?
Since Mark hasn't been beaten yet, not a sausage.
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How much "on-screen" money has been given out this season?
Since Mark hasn't been beaten yet, not a sausage.
For me, it's not worth the investment in viewing time knowing that no one can beat the beast. It may be great for the budget, but it's a letdown for me that no one wins anything.
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For me, it's not worth the investment in viewing time knowing that no one can beat the beast. It may be great for the budget, but it's a letdown for me that no one wins anything.
This has been my point. If they continue to cast morons, there is no point in my continuing to watch.
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How much "on-screen" money has been given out this season?
Since Mark hasn't been beaten yet, not a sausage.
1 win, $80,000.
Outside of the win, every other team this season has had between a 13 and 17 step edge in the Final Chase. Over half of the teams in season 2 (6 of 11) had at least an 18 step advantage. Chris is right--worse players.
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1 win, $80,000.
Ah, must have been out of the gate, then, because I'd completely forgotten about it.
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How much "on-screen" money has been given out this season?
(emphasis mine)
As opposed to...?
/Did I just fall for trollbait?
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As opposed to...?
I thought we established that contestants that lost still got a consolation prize of a few bucks.
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I am assuming (you never know, it could be Jimmy being Jimmy, and that's always a safe bet) that his poorly worded question was "how much money was brought down the table by contestants who won their own round but the team lost the Final Chase?" because you could have a team that wins all of their table rounds but flakes it in the final round and so their $195,000 becomes vaporbucks.
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I am assuming (you never know, it could be Jimmy being Jimmy, and that's always a safe bet) that his poorly worded question was "how much money was brought down the table by contestants who won their own round but the team lost the Final Chase?"
I entertained that briefly, but gave Jimmy the benefit of the doubt because that would be a friggin' stupid question.
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I am assuming (you never know, it could be Jimmy being Jimmy, and that's always a safe bet) that his poorly worded question was "how much money was brought down the table by contestants who won their own round but the team lost the Final Chase?" because you could have a team that wins all of their table rounds but flakes it in the final round and so their $195,000 becomes vaporbucks.
Chris is correct. I know the contestants get some money or accomodation/travel expenses just for appearing on the show. As far as my question asking skillz, verbosity is not my strong suit. :) The question is how much $$$ have the contestants taken home this season. Might as well offer a million if nobody's gonna win it, and if they do, GSN could make that ep an "unaired show."
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Are you counting payment/setting up of travel expenses? What about the alternates who were picked but didn't make the big show? I think they also got a stipend for the day as well.
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Are you counting payment/setting up of travel expenses? What about the alternates who were picked but didn't make the big show? I think they also got a stipend for the day as well.
I'm only talking about what winnings are seen on screen and taken home at the end of the show. It appears that one person won $80,000 and the rest went home with no "on-air" winnings. Maybe the prize budget was met on the first show, so the contestant pool became made up of people who, as determined by pre-show testing, could not beat the beast.
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I'm only talking about what winnings are seen on screen and taken home at the end of the show. It appears that one person won $80,000 and the rest went home with no "on-air" winnings. Maybe the prize budget was met on the first show, so the contestant pool became made up of people who, as determined by pre-show testing, could not beat the beast.
I refuse to entertain that notion; the show had wins of $125k and $180k earlier on; why would they shrink their budget for future series? If the budget shrinks, they should shrink the potential prize instead of casting dullards as contestants.
We're all in agreement that the show is only interesting if David actually fells Goliath sometimes; it is possible that the contestants tested and auditioned well and just flaked on the show, or that Mark was up to the task each time.
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Are you counting payment/setting up of travel expenses? What about the alternates who were picked but didn't make the big show? I think they also got a stipend for the day as well.
He's not counting any of that, which is why he said "on-screen" in the first place.
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If the budget shrinks, they should shrink the potential prize instead of casting dullards as contestants.
Very much this.
or that Mark was up to the task each time.
I'd buy into this if the Final Chase teams put up potential-win numbers. I posit that they haven't.
From my absolutely unscientific observation, to have a reasonable chance against Mark you need *at least* 18 steps (and then a buttload of pushbacks) and more likely 20+. Looking at Chad's somewhat-more-scientific numbers (and discounting the first season because six episodes simply isn't enough to provide a representative sample) the teams in the second season got there often enough to keep hope alive.
This batch flat isn't. As I said before I already had forgotten about the win; I *know* over the last six weeks or so, to a man, I've looked at the step count and said thought "okay, now Brooke asks Mark what he thinks; what's he gonna say this time to make that sound *remotely* competitive?" And honestly in the last couple of week's he's stopped trying.)
Chad, if you've got the numbers handy; could you quickly post the step count for each game this season? (No details necessary, just 12,13,16, etc. would be helpful.) I'd like to see what happens to that average once the 80K win is taken out of the equation. (And I further think with stats like this the median number (or even the two-thirds median, if that makes sense) is more interesting than the mean. Nobody gives a crap if the winning team put up a 22 if there is a string of 14's and 15's following it up. By the opposite token, if the average is 16 and there's four 19+'s and four 13's in there, that's tolerable.)
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The first batch: 13, 18, 10, 15, 15, 19
The second batch: 22, 16, 20, 18, 18, 19, 14, 10, 21, 16
The current batch: 17, 15, 22, 16, 13, 15, 17, 13
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The first batch: 13, 18, 10, 15, 15, 19
The second batch: 22, 16, 20, 18, 18, 19, 14, 10, 21, 16
The current batch: 17, 15, 22, 16, 13, 15, 17, 13
Thank you, sir. :)
And the 22 was the win, I gather? This is pretty damning evidence: one qualifier (that, again, I assume was the win), two almost-doable-but-not-quites and a fistful of no-way-in-hells. Compare to Season 2, where more than half of the games are 18+.
In fact, playing with the numbers a little more, let's line 'em up from smallest to largest:
Second batch: 10, 14, 16, 16, 18, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 (Weren't there 11 games?) Avg: 17.4 Median: 18
Third batch: 13, 13, 15, 15, 16, 17, 17, 22 Avg: 16 Median: 15.5
Now let's throw out the extremes: Second season average rises to 17.75, third drops to 15.5. But I think the median numbers really tell the tale here.
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It seems that the audition process has changed quite a bit since I tried out (way back in May of last year), but I felt that the initial test was pretty tough - tougher than Jeopardy's online test, in my opinion. Anyone who passed that was, at the very least, a decent player.
Nerves probably play quite a bit into the contestants' performances. I incorrectly answered six questions in my Final Chase, and I know that I probably could have gotten a few of them right sitting at home. The very first question of my FC was one that I knew, but I didn't think fast enough, said something else, and got it wrong. :(
The big day can last quite a long time, too. I wasn't able to stick around for the second show on my day, but based on what I recall hearing from the other contestants, the sole contestant who played the Final Chase on that show had probably been at the studio for close to 10 hours by the time the FC was played. I don't know if the tapings have gotten quicker since then.
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NB: In the first two series, Mark won 12 times and lost five.
In series three, with the exception of the first episode Mark managed to catch the team with more than 20 seconds remaining.
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NB: In the first two series, Mark won 12 times and lost five.
And I can handle this. A win somewhere between every three and four shows? Reasonable, though for a weekly I'd prefer that number trend towards the three. That isn't the direction they are headed in though.
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It seems that the audition process has changed quite a bit since I tried out (way back in May of last year), but I felt that the initial test was pretty tough - tougher than Jeopardy's online test, in my opinion. Anyone who passed that was, at the very least, a decent player.
I can testify that the challenge level presented on the initial test remains on that level.
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From my absolutely unscientific observation, to have a reasonable chance against Mark you need *at least* 18 steps (and then a buttload of pushbacks) and more likely 20+
Every contestant win and one loss has come with a target of 18 or higher.
An interesting budget idea, if the Super Offer is going to continue to be a thing, perhaps they can knock down the regular high offer a bit and adjust accordingly.
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A very good episode of "The Chase" on 9/2. 26 questions answered by the team in the final round. That's the best team that ever went against the Beast. Nice to see after the less than stellar performances of the last few weeks.
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A very good episode of "The Chase" on 9/2. 26 questions answered by the team in the final round. That's the best team that ever went against the Beast. Nice to see after the less than stellar performances of the last few weeks.
Seconded, though I think I would have had the courtesy to spoiler-tag that for at least a day or so in a thread not specifically about the episode.
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I'm not sure how to account for this or even if you have to, but one change from the original article is that a full house is now three players instead of four, and those extra players in the final chase not only can lend their particular areas of expertise but they also straight away represent a step head-start.
Agents in England: how often does a two-player team take down the Chaser?
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I'm not sure how to account for this or even if you have to, but one change from the original article is that a full house is now three players instead of four, and those extra players in the final chase not only can lend their particular areas of expertise but they also straight away represent a step head-start.
FWIW, in the 26 US episodes so far, teams have averaged about 14.5 right answers in the Final Chase. When broken down by group size, each group's average was between 14 and 15. This seems to indicate that the bonus steps are more important than anything else.