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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: gameshowguy2000 on January 01, 2004, 01:10:11 AM
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OK, now that 2004 has started, I'd like to talk about those game shows that aired on January 1!
1. $ale Of The Century
2. Classic Concentration
3. Pyramid
4. Family Feud
5. Hollywood Squares
6. Jeopardy!
7. Wheel Of Fortune
Anyone else have any shows to contribute to the list?
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I think just about EVERY game show AIRED on January 1st.
A better way to put it... what game shows had notable New Year "celebrations"
One obvious answer was Match Game 7x. MG's New Years were always very festive, with confetti and balloons. Charles also helped in displaying the new year in a unique fastion. (notably 77, when a buzzard type bird laid an egg that said "Match Game 77)
Match Game 90 had a black tie and suit affair with a blue neon sign saying "Happy New Year"
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Jan 1 2004, 05:33 AM\'] I think just about EVERY game show AIRED on January 1st.
A better way to put it... what game shows had notable New Year "celebrations"
One obvious answer was Match Game 7x. MG's New Years were always very festive, with confetti and balloons. Charles also helped in displaying the new year in a unique fastion. (notably 77, when a buzzard type bird laid an egg that said "Match Game 77)
Match Game 90 had a black tie and suit affair with a blue neon sign saying "Happy New Year" [/quote]
Didn't MG7x usually do the New Year's spiel on NY Eve, since CBS normally airs football bowl games on NY Day(or January 2nd if NY day is on a SUnday).
Some ABC game shows in the 70s and 80s did reportedly air on NY Day, as did $otC and Classic Concentration on NBC on a few occasions.
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A better way to put it... what game shows had notable New Year "celebrations"
On the daytime Combs FF in 1989, they had a New Year's show, w/blue and gold balloons on the set, Ray in a tux, and I think they played Auld Lang Syne at the end.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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As did MG 90. I saw the episode when it aired on GSN, and Auld Lang Syne played at the end.
But, of course, from the late 20th century to now, all the networks have pre-empted daytime game shows for Rose Parade coverage.
And I thought that ALL network daytime game shows got pre-empted for the Rose Parade. I wonder why that didn't happen then!
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 1 2004, 11:29 AM\'] As did MG 90. I saw the episode when it aired on GSN, and Auld Lang Syne played at the end.
But, of course, from the late 20th century to now, all the networks have pre-empted daytime game shows for Rose Parade coverage.
And I thought that ALL network daytime game shows got pre-empted for the Rose Parade. I wonder why that didn't happen then! [/quote]
As noted before, ABC never bothered with the Rose Parade until they actually got the rights to carry the game (and their parade coverage is under the auspices of ABC Sports--judging from their credits the golf production team headed the parade coverage this year). I never really understood why CBS had bothered to carry the Rose Parade for all these years, but seeing as how they also carry portions of the Macy's Parade (long an NBC staple as well) I guess their coverage is justified.
But with the 11AM (or in some years, 11:30) ET start time for the Rose Parade, there was a window for NBC or CBS to carry their normal shows beforehand if they so desired. Usually CBS would air the Cotton Bowl Parade before the Rose Parade (obviously in the days when they had the rights to the game), but with NBC it was hit or miss. Sometimes they'd do the Fiesta Bowl Parade; sometimes they'd air their normal game shows, while other times you might see a variety special or something. GSN has aired on numerous occasions a Perry CS episode that originally aired 1/1/79 (doesn't feel like 25 years ago--does it?), with Jim chiding G2T2 (decked out in full ice bag) for making a fool of itself over a microwave oven (Mother McKenzie was in stitches).
Of course, I'll never have the pleasure of seeing the Indiana marching band playing at the Rose Parade. :)
Doug -- Happy New Year!
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G2T2 with an ice bag on his head? What a way to start 1979! What was with the ice bag, anyway?
Anyway, I was hoping that there would've been balloons, confetti and Auld Lang Syne on the show, but I guess that didn't happen!
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 1 2004, 12:39 PM\'] G2T2 with an ice bag on his head? What a way to start 1979! What was with the ice bag, anyway?
Anyway, I was hoping that there would've been balloons, confetti and Auld Lang Syne on the show, but I guess that didn't happen! [/quote]
To get a chuckle out of the contestants (and of course, the roar of the McKenzie). There's a priceless reaction shot of challenger Phyl just before we see G2T2 with the ice bag on its head.
Following the audience reaction (with an extra close-up of the ice bag for good measure), Perry explains that he took G2T2 to a party "last night" (setting up the joke about G2T2 and the microwave oven). From there, infer what you will. A similar bit was repeated for the following year (but I don't recall whether CS actually aired 1/1/80 or not--I think it possibly did, since it was still scheduled at 10AM ET at that point).
At least the Xmas decorations were for the most part still up.
Doug -- Happy New Year!
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I'm getting a pretty good laugh about the ice bag on G2T2.
And the Xmas decorations were still up? Bizarre.
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Guys, I'm adding another show to the list: Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? is officially being added.
Why did I choose to do that? Well, watching today's show, one of the questions was specifically about the Rose Bowl, and the guy had to Ask The Audience on that question! He got the question right, but Why, oh why did he have to Ask The Audience on that question?
Doesn't EVERYONE know that the Rose Bowl is played on January 1?
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 2 2004, 12:33 AM\'] Doesn't EVERYONE know that the Rose Bowl is played on January 1? [/quote]
I didn't.
With the mass amount of (unnecessary) bowl games on TV nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if he needed a lifeline. I enjoy football, but I wouldn't have known the Rose Bowl question either. I don't have time to keep up with every single bowl game offered, because frankly, I find college football on TV boring compared to the NFL...that is, except for when my school plays. ;-)
ObGameShow: Spencer Christian, Triple Threat host, Hampton, Class of 1970. :-P
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 1 2004, 10:33 PM\'] Doesn't EVERYONE know that the Rose Bowl is played on January 1? [/quote]
If you live on the West Coast (or AZ, the other Pac 10 state), or in one of the states that contain Big 10 schools, probably, since those are the two conferences that have contributed teams to that game for most of its existence. I would imagine your average North Carolinian, for example, could care less as to when the Rose Bowl is played, since before the BCS the chance of a regional team playing in that game was literally nil.
Add that to the fact that the Rose Bowl Game itself has been moved from the 1st on more than one occasion, and it's by no means an automatic answer.
(And then there's me...I'm a sports nut, and I know when the Rose Bowl happens because I grew up in CA (even though I didn't go to a Pac 10 school - Go Spartans!), but I despise college football, so I couldn't tell you with any certainty at all when the other bowl games take place.)
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 2 2004, 12:33 AM\'] Guys, I'm adding another show to the list: Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? is officially being added.
Why did I choose to do that? Well, watching today's show, one of the questions was specifically about the Rose Bowl, and the guy had to Ask The Audience on that question! He got the question right, but Why, oh why did he have to Ask The Audience on that question?
Doesn't EVERYONE know that the Rose Bowl is played on January 1? [/quote]
Syndie game shows will air on January 1st(if Jan. 1 isn't a Saturday or SUnday) somewhere in the country(some areas will see a preemption for sports or parades). Some of the syndie shows airing on NY Day are reruns, which Millionaire is in now.
Objeopardy: One of the earliest occurrences of all three players ending Final J! with no money occurred in APril 1985, when the players forgot that the 1984 Rose Bowl was played on Jan. It's played on the 2nd when NY Day falls on a Sunday, which it did in 1984.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 2 2004, 08:10 AM\'] Objeopardy: One of the earliest occurrences of all three players ending Final J! with no money occurred in APril 1985, when the players forgot that the 1984 Rose Bowl was played on Jan. It's played on the 2nd when NY Day falls on a Sunday, which it did in 1984. [/quote]
It's also played on a day other than the 1st or 2nd when it's the Rose Bowl's turn to host the national championship game (it and three other bowl games share the honor).
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Back in the day (i.e. the 1970s), NBC and CBS alone carried the Rose Bowl Parade. I want to say NBC carried either a pre-parade show at 10 a.m. Eastern or some other parade (they also carried the Orange Bowl Jamboree Parade when the network had the game rights, but the parade was always at night). I think CBS might have had a short East Coast parade as well.
Parade coverage would run from 11 a.m. to 1 or 1:30 p.m., just like today. CBS would then switch to the Cotton Bowl; NBC usually had the Rose Bowl game in the late afternoon, Orange Bowl game in the evening, and another (Fiesta Bowl, perhaps) in the early afternoon.
I know ABC didn't pick up parade coverage until at least 1990, the same year the game rights moved over to them.
O.B. Game Shows: I also recall at least one year (1991?) when all but one of the commercial New York stations had the Rose Bowl parade: WCBS, WNBC, WABC, WNYW (Fox, co-hosted by Alex Trebek), and WPIX (KTLA's feed, co-hosted by Bob Eubanks).
Thanksgiving Day, the day after Thanksgiving, and New Year's Day are always rife with game show pre-emptions.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Jan 2 2004, 09:39 AM\'] Thanksgiving Day, the day after Thanksgiving, and New Year's Day are always rife with game show pre-emptions. [/quote]
As well, however, they also make for interesting spots for game shows....
Either Thanksgiving Day 1985 or the day after, an hour-long "Price" aired from 12:30-1:30.......There was also some scenario on Christmas Day 1991, I'm almost thinking a half-hour price from 12:30-1 or 1-1:30, something like that..
Another holiday to throw into the mix is Memorial Day, back when CBS carried the NBA; I remember M.D. 1990 having a half-hour Price from 2-2:30...
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jan 2 2004, 11:50 AM\']
Either Thanksgiving Day 1985 or the day after, an hour-long "Price" aired from 12:30-1:30.......There was also some scenario on Christmas Day 1991, I'm almost thinking a half-hour price from 12:30-1 or 1-1:30, something like that..
Another holiday to throw into the mix is Memorial Day, back when CBS carried the NBA; I remember M.D. 1990 having a half-hour Price from 2-2:30... [/quote]
I think Thanksgiving 1986 also had a TPIR rerun in the afternoon. The day after Thanksgiving 1985 was the one year I can remember(in the days of game shows besides TPIR) that CBS ran its whole game show lineup instead of the usual kidvid programming.
The Memorial Day 1990 episode was probably a rerun from February(i.e. Bake-Off day)
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The King Orange Jamboree parade in Miami was on New Years Eve. It ran on NBC as a prime time special. I don't know if this parade still esists, or ABC doesn't care for it....I'd rather see that than that stupid Dick Clark rockfest.
I do recall the network patterns for the bowl games.....NBC had Fiesta/Rose/Orange in that order, CBS had the Cotton and ABC had the Sugar and Gator. CBS also had the Sun Bowl somewhere between Christmas and New Year's, as they still do today. NBC usually varied what they showed from 10-11am EST on 1/1....one year it would be a Rose parade preview, the next it would be the Fiesta Bowl parade. CBS always had the Cotton Bowl Festival parade live from Dallas from 10-11 before switching to Pasadena.
I think ABC used to run their kids cartoons on NYD morning in place of what game shows or comedy reruns they had. They used to do this on Thanksgiving too. This year they did reruns of their current sitcoms on both Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Thanksgiving was a no-brainer when it came to game show preemtions...what with NBC and CBS showing parades followed by NFL games and ABC showing cartoons followed by college football.
Another well known regular holiday preemption from my younger days was the Christmas sacrifice of 10-11am games on NBC for the National Cathedral Christmas service.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 2 2004, 08:10 AM\'] Objeopardy: One of the earliest occurrences of all three players ending Final J! with no money occurred in APril 1985, when the players forgot that the 1984 Rose Bowl was played on Jan. It's played on the 2nd when NY Day falls on a Sunday, which it did in 1984. [/quote]
The earliest such occurrence was on September 18, 1984 on the second Trebek show when all 3 players got the day the 20th century actually began wrong in Final Jeopardy (according to Jeopardy!, it's January 1, 1901; I don't know exactly the basis for that correct response). They all said January 1, 1900 and bet all their winnings because they probably weren't aware of wagering strategy, being the second show and all.
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[quote name=\'mbclev\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 09:57 AM\'] when all 3 players got the day the 20th century actually began wrong in Final Jeopardy (according to Jeopardy!, it's January 1, 1901; I don't know exactly the basis for that correct response). [/quote]
It's very simple: if it's generally accepted that the first January 1 after the December 25th when Christ was born marked the start of the year 1, A.D., and there are 100 years in a century, then the LAST year of the 1st century is the year 100, and the first year of the 2nd one is 101. Extrapolate that, and the first year of the 20th century is 1901.
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So you mean that ALL that talk of 2000 being the FIRST (F-I-R-S-T) year of the New Millennium is WRONG (W-R-O-N-G)?
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 05:41 PM\'] So you mean that ALL that talk of 2000 being the FIRST (F-I-R-S-T) year of the New Millennium is WRONG (W-R-O-N-G)? [/quote]
Yes. (Y-E-S, for whatever reason you're doing that.)
As simple as it can be made: When you count to one hundred, you START with the number "1" and you END with the number "100". So the part of a century that ends in "00" is the LAST part of the previous century, not the first part of the new one.
They all said January 1, 1900 and bet all their winnings because they probably weren't aware of wagering strategy, being the second show and all.
And for the next twenty years, contestants ever since have been wagering all but one dollar, even though there is rarely a strategic reason to do that either.
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And for the next twenty years, contestants ever since have been wagering all but one dollar, even though there is rarely a strategic reason to do that either.
Well, it did pay off for a contestant back in 1993, whose opponents risked it all in Final J! and lost, while he ended up winning w/*$1*.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 05:48 PM\'] [quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 05:41 PM\'] So you mean that ALL that talk of 2000 being the FIRST (F-I-R-S-T) year of the New Millennium is WRONG (W-R-O-N-G)? [/quote]
Yes. (Y-E-S, for whatever reason you're doing that.)
As simple as it can be made: When you count to one hundred, you START with the number "1" and you END with the number "100". So the part of a century that ends in "00" is the LAST part of the previous century, not the first part of the new one.
They all said January 1, 1900 and bet all their winnings because they probably weren't aware of wagering strategy, being the second show and all.
And for the next twenty years, contestants ever since have been wagering all but one dollar, even though there is rarely a strategic reason to do that either. [/quote]
Matt, I know we were both born the same year during the Eisenhower administration, but now I'm confused as to which decade.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 08:43 PM\'] Matt, I know we were both born the same year during the Eisenhower administration, but now I'm confused as to which decade. [/quote]
We were born in the first year of "the sixties". The informal naming of decades is a completely different concept and a completely different reckoning of time than the measure of a century. "The sixties" are simply those years that have a six in the tens place.
In other words, "the nineties" ended in 1999, but the century did not. Two different things. People are free to disagree with this concept, but they'd be wrong.
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I'm surprised more of us don't remember The Great "Which Is The 'Right' Year to Celebrate Hugely, 2000 or 2001?" Debate. A classic example of people arguing past each other: one side couldn't see why the other couldn't read a calendar, and the other side couldn't see why the first side couldn't understand that "2000" starts with a different digit than the past thousand years did.
I was proudly on the third side, which could see both the first and second sides, as well as realizing that it was all incredibly arbitrary anyway, what with the calendar devisers probably missing Jesus' birth by several years as well as happening to use a base 10 number system.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 05:12 AM\'] I'm surprised more of us don't remember The Great "Which Is The 'Right' Year to Celebrate Hugely, 2000 or 2001?" Debate. A classic example of people arguing past each other: one side couldn't see why the other couldn't read a calendar, and the other side couldn't see why the first side couldn't understand that "2000" starts with a different digit than the past thousand years did. [/quote]
I don't think anyone's forgotten that debate, but the question as you word it isn't the issue. If the question is simply when should we celebrate hugely, then by all means it should have been on the year 2000 (as it was). We dig round numbers, that's just human nature.
Nevertheless, it's a celebration of having reached the end, just like the kick you get when your car's odometer turns over to a round number. Celebrating the year 2000 is one thing. Calling it the first year of the new century is simply wrong. This is just a fact. I can see why some people might be confused by it, but that doesn't make it any less of a fact.
I was proudly on the third side, which could see both the first and second sides, as well as realizing that it was all incredibly arbitrary anyway, what with the calendar devisers probably missing Jesus' birth by several years as well as happening to use a base 10 number system.
"I can see both sides" isn't a third side, it's a cop out, and the fact that historians missed by a few years and that we use the base ten system really isn't relevant all these years later. They're numbers, they have a pattern, and we have terms for those patterns.
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So, does this mean that we've been tricked into believing that 2000 was the start of the New Millennium/21st Century?
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 02:22 PM\'] So, does this mean that we've been tricked into believing that 2000 was the start of the New Millennium/21st Century? [/quote]
Didn't you already ask this?
Anyway, if you believe that the year 2000 is the first year of the new century, or the first year of the new millenium, you are wrong. If you wish to believe that you were "tricked" into believing that, that's really up to you. As I said before, this does not mean that we were wrong to make a big deal about the arrival of the year 2000.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 08:09 PM\']
And for the next twenty years, contestants ever since have been wagering all but one dollar, even though there is rarely a strategic reason to do that either.
Well, it did pay off for a contestant back in 1993, whose opponents risked it all in Final J! and lost, while he ended up winning w/*$1*. [/quote]
Ask any true Jeopardy fan (there are a bunch of them on Sony's board) and they'll tell you that this guy almost certainly had a better strategic wager to make that would have involved wagering much less than he did. It's because he wagered badly that he only won one dollar.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 01:45 PM\'] [quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 08:09 PM\']
And for the next twenty years, contestants ever since have been wagering all but one dollar, even though there is rarely a strategic reason to do that either.
Well, it did pay off for a contestant back in 1993, whose opponents risked it all in Final J! and lost, while he ended up winning w/*$1*. [/quote]
Ask any true Jeopardy fan (there are a bunch of them on Sony's board) and they'll tell you that this guy almost certainly had a better strategic wager to make that would have involved wagering much less than he did. It's because he wagered badly that he only won one dollar. [/quote]
I remember seeing his second episode, and how me and friends cracked jokes, but never saw the whole episode. Did he win on his second day?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 12:42 PM\'] [quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 02:22 PM\'] So, does this mean that we've been tricked into believing that 2000 was the start of the New Millennium/21st Century? [/quote]
Didn't you already ask this?
Anyway, if you believe that the year 2000 is the first year of the new century, or the first year of the new millenium, you are wrong. If you wish to believe that you were "tricked" into believing that, that's really up to you. As I said before, this does not mean that we were wrong to make a big deal about the arrival of the year 2000. [/quote]
OK, Now I understand now, Matt. Thanks!
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 09:49 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 08:43 PM\'] Matt, I know we were both born the same year during the Eisenhower administration, but now I'm confused as to which decade. [/quote]
We were born in the first year of "the sixties". The informal naming of decades is a completely different concept and a completely different reckoning of time than the measure of a century. "The sixties" are simply those years that have a six in the tens place.
In other words, "the nineties" ended in 1999, but the century did not. Two different things. People are free to disagree with this concept, but they'd be wrong. [/quote]
I prefer to say that I was born in the last year of the fifth decade of the 2oth century. (I may prefer to say that, but would I be right?)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 05:48 PM\'][quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 05:41 PM\'] So you mean that ALL that talk of 2000 being the FIRST (F-I-R-S-T) year of the New Millennium is WRONG (W-R-O-N-G)? [/quote]
Yes. (Y-E-S, for whatever reason you're doing that.)[/quote]
Don't you know Lingoese when you see it, Matt?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 01:17 PM\'] I prefer to say that I was born in the last year of the fifth decade of the 2oth century. (I may prefer to say that, but would I be right?) [/quote]
Assuming you were born in 1950, yes:
Century starts: 1901
First decade therefore runs from: January 1, 1901 to December 31, 1910
FIFTH Decade is therefore: January 1, 1941 to December 31, 1950
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 03:53 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 01:17 PM\'] I prefer to say that I was born in the last year of the fifth decade of the 2oth century. (I may prefer to say that, but would I be right?) [/quote]
Assuming you were born in 1950, yes:
Century starts: 1901
First decade therefore runs from: January 1, 1901 to December 31, 1910
FIFTH Decade is therefore: January 1, 1941 to December 31, 1950 [/quote]
No,I was born in '60. So actually I was born in the last year of the sixth decade. So the original "Jeopardy!" started in the seventh decade! I'll stop now.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 11:25 AM\']"I can see both sides" isn't a third side, it's a cop out[/quote]
I was solely discussing the two following arguments, held in their respective quoted entireties by a tremendous number of people: "2000 is the beginning of the third millennium A.D., it's a nice round number, and we should celebrate 2000 the most for those reasons", and "2001 is the beginning of the third millennium A.D., round numbers mean nothing, and we should celebrate 2001 the most for those reasons". By "taking a third side", I meant that at the time, I tried to encourage said people how they were each one- to two-thirds right. I have no argument with the facts you were sharing--I was merely expanding on the topic a bit.
As for people forgetting it, well, gameshowguy didn't seem to know about it. Not quite enough to qualify a plural, but that was my mistake.
I seemed to see something other than pleasant conversation in your reply, Matt. I don't really think this, of all things, is a topic worth getting riled about.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 01:48 PM\']
Well, it did pay off for a contestant back in 1993, whose opponents risked it all in Final J! and lost, while he ended up winning w/*$1*. [/QUOTE]
I remember seeing his second episode, and how me and friends cracked jokes, but never saw the whole episode. Did he win on his second day? [/quote]
yeah, Lt. Col Darryl Scott won $13,401 on his second day, but lost his third game.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 09:37 PM\'] I seemed to see something other than pleasant conversation in your reply, Matt. I don't really think this, of all things, is a topic worth getting riled about. [/quote]
Oh, good heavens no, and I apologize if my fervency suggested otherwise. Still, there is a factual component that simply isn't open to "sides" no matter how many people might believe otherwise.
Look at it this way: I bet if you asked a whole lot of people who was the original host of Wheel of Fortune, a whole lot of people would say Pat Sajak. I can certainly understand why they might think that, but that doesn't make them right.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 10:49 PM\']Look at it this way: I bet if you asked a whole lot of people who was the original host of Wheel of Fortune, a whole lot of people would say Pat Sajak. I can certainly understand why they might think that, but that doesn't make them right.[/quote]
I get you.
(Sajak hosted Wheel????)