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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: thunder27263 on December 26, 2003, 11:37:59 PM
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Tomorrow, I will at the mall to get The Newlywed Game 2002 Endless Games Edition.
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[quote name=\'thunder27263\' date=\'Dec 26 2003, 11:37 PM\'] Tomorrow, I will at the mall to get The Newlywed Game 2002 Endless Games Edition.
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Hmm...to reply or not to reply? I might delete this.
So far tonight you've made 3 posts, one of which had precious little to do with game shows, and all 3 of which make a point to mention Megan Mullally, including an attempt to put a pic of her in your signature that is banned here.
Do you have some kind of obsession? It's not an attack, just a question.
Oh, and for the record, I hope that the game is good. Does anyone know how close it resembles the original show? Was there ever a board game to this before? (Paging Matt...)
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Was there ever a [Newlywed Game] board game to this before?
Yes there was -- a total of 6 editions by 4 different manufactures between 1967 and 1998, including the aforementioned Endless Games version, which was first released in 1998. See:
http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgames3/index.html (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgames3/index.html\")
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The Endless version of The Newlywed Game has the crew there again falling back on older material. A customer opened a version at the store, so I checked it out. They use question material from both the 60s Hasbro edition and the later Pressman version. It's humorous that you will get questions making references to older movie stars like Doris Day and Cary Grant - greats that not too many of today's young newlyweds would know about. However, I did gift myself with the new Osmond-covered Pyramid, which finally made it to town. The props duplicate the Cardinal/Endless $25,000 version, but they now use the blue overprint/red plastic reader camouflage on the front game cards. Overall, it's one of their better efforts.
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The Pyramid home game looks pretty decent too. Hopefully we get a CD version out of this one before long.
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Speaking of the Pyramid home game, did the current version's home game replace the Endless $25K home game or not? I've been to Endless's website, and it has info on the current version's home game, but none on the one that preceded it.
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For what it's worth, at Toys R Us, we red tagged our remaining copies of Endless' $25K toward the end of last summer- indicating either the product is no longer being supported by the manufacturer or isn't selling well and the chain is dropping it. I'd lean toward the former. It doesn't seem logical to maintain the $25K in the Endless library when you have the improved version available. The new version has recent material from the program producers, where the $25K was a copy of the Cardinal version.
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Well, weren't there times when each show's board game had multiple versions in the stores, say for example, the following shows:
Jeopardy!
1. 25th Anniversary Edition
2. Electronic Jeopardy!
And so on...
Wheel Of Fortune
1. Deluxe
2. The game with video tapes (How in the world did they manage to do that?)
And so on...
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 29 2003, 01:00 AM\']
Wheel Of Fortune
1. Deluxe
2. The game with video tapes (How in the world did they manage to do that?)
And so on... [/quote]
Those video tapes went with Mattel's 1988 TV PLay ALong WOF. THe tapes allowed them to play WOF with the Mattel console, and the console allowed people to play along with the syndicated version of the show(all puzzles except the bonus round) from September 1988-September 1990 IIRC. GSN has showed reruns of those two seasons for the last three years, and it was reported that someone managed to use their console to play along with the GSN reruns.
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There have been sub-sets of the same product forever in the biz - like Taboo Jr is an offshoot of regular Taboo. Things like Electric Jeopardy, Deluxe Wheel, Taboo Jr and others are called line extensions, and those are logical. They come out when the original product (like both the old Pressman WOF and J! games) are still available and hot. My comment was more along this line: if you were a retailer and ordered Password today from Endless Games, they would probably not send you their first or second edition. You'd get the new 4th edition. If you even wanted copies of the older editions (and the question would be-why? You would look out of step with the stores carrying the new merchandise), they may no longer be available, or you'd have to place a special order. I know warehouses occasionally hang on to older leftover merchandise (we did a radio promotion with Endless recently, and they shipped us a leftover case of $25K instead of the Osmond), but why promote obsolete merchandise? You'll probably still find copies of $25K around through liquidation channels, but I imagine all the attention is being focused on the new Pyramid.
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There are plenty of $25K editions left at many Toys R Us stores in Canada - the local one has both that and Donnymid on its shelves.
Cheers,
Ryan :)
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 29 2003, 09:22 AM\'] Those video tapes went with Mattel's 1988 TV PLay ALong WOF. THe tapes allowed them to play WOF with the Mattel console, and the console allowed people to play along with the syndicated version of the show(all puzzles except the bonus round) from September 1988-September 1990 IIRC. GSN has showed reruns of those two seasons for the last three years, and it was reported that someone managed to use their console to play along with the GSN reruns. [/quote]
That PlayAlong WOF game was quite a neat device...You could also make up your own puzzles in the game as well.
And as Zach said, you could play along with the show from 1988-1990 - there was a red light on the device - if the red dot and the "wheel" theme started to play, you were then connected to the show and could receive the same puzzle that the contestants saw. Quite a neat game.
Although, I never did get mine to work with the GSN reruns - the red light would come on but the music would never play.
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Is it usable now? I'm sure it probably is compatible with all WOF episodes, from Daytime to Nighttime, from First-Run to GSN, to any shows you have on tape to the tapes that come with that game.
BTW, I did a little shopping yesterday, and I found the 3rd AND 4th editions of the Password board game from Endless Games.
Just goes to show that a store can sell a younger version of a board game, too.
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 04:27 PM\'] Is it usable now? I'm sure it probably is compatible with all WOF episodes, from Daytime to Nighttime, from First-Run to GSN, to any shows you have on tape to the tapes that come with that game.
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As per the information Zach and I had said, it was only usable on the nighttime shows from 1988-1990. Not any of the daytime shows. It would still work with the play-along tapes and any WOF episodes you taped from that span, but I don't think, as per my findings, it worked with GSN's 1988 WOF reruns.
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 04:27 PM\'] Is it usable now? I'm sure it probably is compatible with all WOF episodes, from Daytime to Nighttime, from First-Run to GSN, to any shows you have on tape to the tapes that come with that game. [/quote]
Just to confirm what Aaron posted, the back of my game unit says "Your game may be played with the evening Wheel of Fortune TV show from 8/31/88 through at least 9/1/90." I tried using the game shortly after 9/1/90 but it didn't work. I did get the unit to work with a GSN episode a few years back, before GSN started speeding up shows. Can a "time machine" affect the signal sent to the game unit? This might explain why the current reruns didn't work for Aaron.
To touch on something else mentioned, even if the aforementioned signal was still being delivered, the game couldn't work with today's shows since the puzzle board on the current shows have one extra space per line, compared with the WoF board 15 years ago.
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Thanks for the info. Just to make sure I wasn't crazy, I went back to the Endless Games website, where it shows the new Osmond version is the product they are actively promoting at this time. Depending on store stock, other product is out there. In case I've ever left anyone with the incorrect impression, I will now publicly confirm your suspicions that I may be absent from atop the pillar of knowing all things ;-)....
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 3 2004, 04:27 PM\'] BTW, I did a little shopping yesterday, and I found the 3rd AND 4th editions of the Password board game from Endless Games.
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Call me ignorant, but when did the 4th edition come out? (And, what changes, if any, were made?)
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I didn't get to see what the changes were. The only difference I saw was the color of the box.
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I don't have the Endless 3rd edition, but there have been changes from edition to edition. The first two (and I think the third) came in taller boxes - the 4th is more like the classic MB sizes for Snap Judgment and Joker's Wild. The second edition contained a lightning round deck and timer, like the later MB versions. It's not in the 4th. The new 4th edition also has a replica of the classic 1-10 scoring dial printed on the box insert, and a snap-in arrow. The first two had the 1-10 score system printed along one side of the box bottom, and you pushed some sort of plastic clip along it to keep track of the points.
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Adding to what The Ol' Guy said (since this IS supposed to be my area of expertise!):
The Third Edition was also in that "taller" box (for the record, 9.5 x 6 x 2.75), so the Fourth is the first one to change its shape (again FTR, 9.5 x 7.5 x 1.75). Aside from VERY minor color variations (some aprons going from blue to red), the box size is the only change in the new version.
Neither the Third or Fourth has the Lighting Round cards & timer, those are unique to the Second Edition at this point. Like the Third Edition, the Fourth Edition contains fifty cards (the first two editions only had 36) so there's a whopping 1000 available words.
The Password Junior edition (in the same size box as the Fourth Edition) has only 25 cards (500 words) and a dramatically different style of suggested play. The rules included with Junior describe a style of clue giving much more like Pyramid, without the restriction of one-word clues.
And yeah, the site's due for an update.
http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/games.htm (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/games.htm\")
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 4 2004, 01:31 PM\'] The Third Edition was also in that "taller" box (for the record, 9.5 x 6 x 2.75), so the Fourth is the first one to change its shape (again FTR, 9.5 x 7.5 x 1.75). Aside from VERY minor color variations (some aprons going from blue to red), the box size is the only change in the new version.
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Actually, some of the later produced copies of the Third edition of Password from Endless Games were packaged in the same size box as the new Fourth edition.
It also looked like some later produced copies of $25,000 Pyramid were packaged in a more square box like the new Pyramid game with Donny Osmond pictured on it. I haven't seen an actual copy like this, but the illustration on the inside apron of EG's Card Sharks, show the box perfectly square. Maybe they considered this, before releasing the updated version.