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Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: LetsGoYankees on August 31, 2013, 09:23:52 AM

Changes for the week of September 9th:


 


*Minute to Win It (Ohno) takes the 8pm and 9pm hours on Tuesday nights with new episodes


*Minute to Win It (Ohno) gets all rerun slots The Chase had, with the exception of Saturday 2pm


 


Changes week of September 16th through October:


 


*5th Grader drops off the schedule completely, John O\'Hurley Family Feud gets an additional hour weekdays at 1pm and Ohno Minute to Win It gains Sunday nights from 6pm-10pm.


*Minute to Win It (Ohno) will air Tuesdays from 7-9pm and 10pm-12am


*The Chase reruns only Tuesday nights at 9pm and Midnight


*Baggage will air Friday nights 7-9pm; Ohno MTWI Fridays 9-11pm.


 


Looks like GSN has lost the rights to 5th Grader. Doubt Foxworthy\'s FOX quizzer is just \"getting a rest\".

Family Feud is simply insane. All post-2002 versions take up more than two-fifths (40%) of the entire schedule now. I mean, I know FF does so well, but this is a lot.


No word on different leases for classics.


 


Advance schedules through October 20th at GameShowFollies


Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on August 31, 2013, 03:03:53 PM

Family Feud is simply insane. All post-2002 versions take up more than two-fifths (40%) of the entire schedule now. I mean, I know FF does so well, but this is a lot.

 




You own a grocery store.  Heinz Ketchup sells well.  In fact, 80% of the ketchup bought in your store is the Heinz brand.  Are you really going to devote more shelf space to Del Monte and Hunts when your consumers want Heinz?  Take a basic economics class, would ya?

Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: Flerbert419 on August 31, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
^ That seems like switching out old Feud for new.


This seems like not offering mustard to make more room for ketchup.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on August 31, 2013, 09:01:54 PM


^ That seems like switching out old Feud for new.


This seems like not offering mustard to make more room for ketchup.




To borrow from and expand the food metaphor:


You have a grocery store. You sell 50% more ketchup than mustard. To maximize profit, you devote more shelf space to ketchup than mustard. One day, you discover you can no longer sell mayonnaise. Given a finite amount of shelf space, what do you stock in it\'s place? Obvious answer, here:   More ketchup, more money.  You COULD try worcestershire sauce, but odds are pretty good ketchup would deliver a greater profit.


Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: WarioBarker on September 01, 2013, 02:34:18 AM

You have a grocery store. You sell 50% more mustard than ketchup. To maximize profit, you devote more shelf space to ketchup than mustard.

I might be missing something here, but if mustard is selling better than ketchup then wouldn\'t the better course of action be to devote more shelf space to mustard?
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: catnap1972 on September 01, 2013, 08:05:10 AM

\"What?  You only sell ketchup now?  Where\'d the rest of the groceries go?  K later then!\"


Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: clemon79 on September 01, 2013, 01:10:19 PM

 One day, you discover you can no longer sell mayonnaise.


 

People buy mayonnaise in stores?

 

/stick blenders are your friends
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: Winkfan on September 01, 2013, 09:39:57 PM
Well, at least they're leaving the AM line-up intact, for now.

Cordially,
Tammy
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: JakeT on September 02, 2013, 04:27:28 PM


 




^ That seems like switching out old Feud for new.


This seems like not offering mustard to make more room for ketchup.




To borrow from and expand the food metaphor:


You have a grocery store. You sell 50% more ketchup than mustard. To maximize profit, you devote more shelf space to ketchup than mustard. One day, you discover you can no longer sell mayonnaise. Given a finite amount of shelf space, what do you stock in it\'s place? Obvious answer, here:   More ketchup, more money.  You COULD try worcestershire sauce, but odds are pretty good ketchup would deliver a greater profit.


 




And this would be very sound marketing strategy if you were only focused on just the customers who shopped at your store for ketchup alone...but there really aren\'t that many of them...one of the biggest reasons nearly all of the customers who shop at your store likely do so is that you offer them a greater variety of products than your competition, allowing them to purchase a much greater assortment of your goods and enjoy \"one-stop shopping\" with you, rather than having to come to your store for ketchup but then go down the street to your competitor for their mustard and mayonnaise, risking losing that customer entirely to your competitor who offers them that variety, rather than trying to plan their retirement on all those sweet ketchup profits...


 


A grocery store can\'t depend one profitable product to make them successful...and...a TV channel can\'t depend on one single program to provide them with frequent loyal viewers...


 


AND CAN\'T SOMEONE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE THE SALE OF MIRACLE WHIP ILLEGAL?  THAT STUFF IS JUST PLAIN OLE NASTY!  :)


 


JakeT

Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: TLEberle on September 02, 2013, 04:40:15 PM
I would imagine that part of the Feud strategy is that it is instantly recognizable by young and old. Anyone who owns a television and stops on the show will know what it is, and since the barrier to entry is so low why not program lots of it.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: PYLdude on September 02, 2013, 05:02:13 PM
Lots of people know what porn is too. You don\'t see stations scheduling that several times a day.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: TLEberle on September 02, 2013, 05:16:44 PM
I openly reject and mock your counter-point.

Pshaw.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: PYLdude on September 02, 2013, 05:23:16 PM


I openly reject and mock your counter-point.


Pshaw.




What\'s wrong with it?


The point is that just because you can air something because people know it doesn\'t mean you should. By that logic NBC\'s overreliance on DOND and ABC\'s overreliance on Millionaire shouldn\'t have affected the ratings of those two shows in any way because enough people should have been tuning in for the name value alone.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2013, 05:24:51 PM


Lots of people know what porn is too. You don\'t see stations scheduling that several times a day.




 


Seriously? You really, actually think this is a valid comparison?

Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: jjman920 on September 02, 2013, 05:49:09 PM


Lots of people know what porn is too. You don\'t see stations scheduling that several times a day.




Yes, you don\'t. Not because they don\'t want to, because some stupid commission in D.C. says they can\'t.


 


I don\'t know what logistics there are in getting current episodes of The Price is Right on GSN, but given that it is even more recognizable than Family Feud, I wonder how it would fare on the network today and if GSN would rely on it heavily.


Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: PYLdude on September 02, 2013, 05:52:14 PM
If all you\'re reading into is the off-handed porn mention and not reading into the actual point I don\'t know what to tell you.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2013, 06:07:46 PM


If all you\'re reading into is the off-handed porn mention and not reading into the actual point I don\'t know what to tell you.




 


Then do share what the hell your actual point is, because you have long since lost the benefit of the doubt as to \"reading into\" anything.

Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: TLEberle on September 02, 2013, 06:24:31 PM
As I see it, Chris P. and Jimmie Walker are bringing up the rear.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: Kevin Prather on September 02, 2013, 06:27:31 PM


As I see it, Chris P. and Jimmie Walker are bringing up the rear.




I thought we were done talking about porn.

Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2013, 06:28:10 PM

I don\'t know what logistics there are in getting current episodes of The Price is Right on GSN, but given that it is even more recognizable than Family Feud, I wonder how it would fare on the network today and if GSN would rely on it heavily.


 


The logistics are remarkably simple, and are commonly known as \"paying a lot of money.\"

Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: BrandonFG on September 02, 2013, 06:36:13 PM




As I see it, Chris P. and Jimmie Walker are bringing up the rear.




I thought we were done talking about porn.




I haven\'t given out a gold star in a while, but you get one.


Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: PYLdude on September 02, 2013, 06:54:13 PM



If all you\'re reading into is the off-handed porn mention and not reading into the actual point I don\'t know what to tell you.

 

Then do share what the hell your actual point is, because you have long since lost the benefit of the doubt as to \"reading into\" anything.

Well, that sounds like a personal problem there.


Read the response I made to Travis\' pshaw and you\'ll see.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: TLEberle on September 02, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
It looks like your point amounts to \"just because people know a thing exists doesn\'t make it viable in the marketplace,\" which is a simplistic way to look at it. Not only is Family Feud a recognizable property, it is popular. People will sit there and watch, or at least stop tweaking the potentiometer for a minute. Maybe long enough to watch some ads. For whatever formula GSN is using to determine what goes in their programming holes, Family Feud comes out the winner, and Joker\'s Wild, Pass the Buck and Three\'s a Crowd (mercifully) don\'t.

If folks are asking \"what\'s your point?\" that\'s an invitation to expand on your position, and not to be sarcastic because we can\'t read your brain waves.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: PYLdude on September 02, 2013, 07:23:56 PM
That\'s not what my point is, though. It\'s that saturation- which GSN\'s scheduling of Feud is getting close to being- is not a good thing no matter how recognizable the brand is. Eventually there will come a time to add a little variety to the lineup, whether that be with classics or more modern stuff.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: TLEberle on September 02, 2013, 09:40:21 PM
And when the ratings fall off, that will be the signal to do so.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2013, 09:52:33 PM

Well, that sounds like a personal problem there.




Hey, I was operating under the (potentially misguided) assumption that you cared about people understanding your point, which near as I can tell few did. Maybe I\'m wrong and you\'re just happy enough reading your own words and thinking you\'re interacting with people. I dunno.


 


But just for chucks I went back and read the cited response, and I still don\'t get what the hell you\'re going on about. The takeaway I got was \"just because you *can* do something, doesn\'t mean you should\" which suggests to me that you think most channels don\'t air pr0n out of some kind of moral compass, which I assure you is at best naive and at worst utterly ignorant of how the broadcast industry works; as JJman said, if they *could* do it without running afoul of federal laws, they would.


 


If I\'m wrong, you\'re welcome to correct me, or not; I promise you I will get along just fine either way. But, \"personal problem?\" Yeah, you\'re right, it\'s almost certainly a \"personal problem...\"


Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: PYLdude on September 02, 2013, 10:30:50 PM


And when the ratings fall off, that will be the signal to do so.




Right. It would just be a matter of whether \"when\" comes sooner or later. Me, I think it would come sooner. Your mileage might vary.
Title: Late September Schedule Changes
Post by: SuperMatch93 on September 02, 2013, 10:31:39 PM

just because you can air something




Since when can low-tier cable networks air porn?


But to reply to your point, if it ain\'t broken from a programming point of view, don\'t fix it. Random subscribers will be more likely to recognize  Family Feud as they flip through their cable guides than other shows GSN has the rights to air, so it\'s reasonable to milk the hell out of it.