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Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: chris319 on July 21, 2013, 10:35:06 PM

Is (was) there a Score Productions \"ound\"?


 


I think so.


 


Trumpets and trombones


 


Flutes and piccolos


 


Bass guitar


 


To a much lesser extent, on some shows:


 


Rhodes piano


 


Tambourine


 


Strings


 


Depending on the composer


 


Synth


 


Discuss.


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: SuperMatch93 on July 21, 2013, 10:48:54 PM

I know that some of Kalehoff\'s were modal, but I don\'t remember which mode.


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: Twentington on July 22, 2013, 04:53:12 AM

Wasn\'t just Kalehoff. I think the Mindreaders theme is in dorian, and Body Language in mixolydian.


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: BrandonFG on July 22, 2013, 09:33:51 AM

Score musicians definitely loved brassy instruments, and for the most part kept the tunes contemporary (Moog in the early-to-mid-70s, synth in the early-to-mid-80s). Off the top of my head, I can\'t think of too many disco-based compositions though.


 


The MG/HS Hour pilot theme (heard over at the TVPMM) seemed to have elements of quite a few Goodson-Todman themes.


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: chris319 on July 22, 2013, 01:07:43 PM

MG/HS Hour was when Goodson started using Kalehoff again after a, um, hiatus. By then Kalehoff was independent of Score.


 


I have only recently discovered Walt Levinsky who composed a large number of tunes that wound up on Goodson shows including ours. By this time Score and Kalehoff were no longer collaborating. Levinsky was a first-rate jazz clarinetist as well as a composer and arranger. He never received as much recognition as he deserved.


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: dale_grass on July 24, 2013, 07:10:49 PM

I have only recently discovered Walt Levinsky who composed a large number of tunes that wound up on Goodson shows including ours.


AFAIK, the themes to Showoffs and Second Chance haven\'t been attributed to anyone, but after hearing the Price \'76 catalog I\'m wondering if they weren\'t both from Walt. (Just recently found out he did The Big Showdown.)
Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: Chief-O on July 24, 2013, 07:35:55 PM

I have only recently discovered Walt Levinsky who composed a large number of tunes that wound up on Goodson shows including ours.

AFAIK, the themes to Showoffs and Second Chance haven\'t been attributed to anyone, but after hearing the Price \'76 catalog I\'m wondering if they weren\'t both from Walt. (Just recently found out he did The Big Showdown.)

 
The DD76/CS78 theme also smacks of Walt\'s other known work. It seems he was Score\'s top man throughout the 70s...similar to Charles Fox handling most of the 60\'s GS output, and the likes of Gary Anderson, Michel Camilo, and Jonathan Segal composing most of the 80s material.
 
I honestly wonder how close Kalehoff was to Score; it seems he was quite established as an independent composer right out of the gate [approx. 1970 or so]. In fact, I\'m sure the only show where I\'ve seen \"Music by Edd Kalehoff for Score Productions\", or anything of that nature, was TPIR----\"Concentration\" and \"Tattletales\" [ETA: Not \"Concentration\"!] both gave credit to Kalehoff alone.
Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: chris319 on July 25, 2013, 08:36:44 PM

The DD76/CS78 theme also smacks of Walt\'s other known work.


 



Except it has a major synth part. What did Levinsky ever compose that had synth in it? Score\'s other synth guy was Ken Bichel (Match Game) and maybe Gary Anderson (Super Password).


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: Bryce L. on July 26, 2013, 02:25:15 PM

I could have sworn the first GSN cd had the DD76/CS78 music credited to Kalehoff


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: dale_grass on July 28, 2013, 10:16:43 AM


I could have sworn the first GSN cd had the DD76/CS78 music credited to Kalehoff




 


I\'m thinking either they were wrong or you\'re remembering wrong, because it just doesn\'t soundd like Edd.  For one thing, where were the strings? ;)

Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: clemon79 on July 28, 2013, 01:25:56 PM

Alternately, an old fart like me who still has a CD rack could actually look at said disc, which in fact credits Card Sharks to one Edward Woodley Kalehoff.


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: dale_grass on July 28, 2013, 03:46:10 PM


a CD rack




 


A what now?


 


I\'ll defer to the packaging then--I\'m assuming it\'s the 70s version on the CD--since his own site simply lists \'Card Sharks\' without reference to year. I still say it doesn\'t scream Edd like his other works. 


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: clemon79 on July 28, 2013, 03:51:38 PM

I\'m assuming it\'s the 70s version on the CD



 

You\'d be correct. Sadly, it\'s a short one-minuteish version.

 



I still say it doesn\'t scream Edd like his other works.



 


I don\'t think anyone disputed this the first time.


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: NickintheATL on July 28, 2013, 04:51:40 PM

According to the credit roll, the on-air credit for that was Score Productions, Inc.  It sounds like Kalehoff.


 


 


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on July 28, 2013, 05:02:39 PM

Isn\'t the lead guitar also a trademark in Edd Kalehoff\'s work?


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: Bryce L. on July 31, 2013, 08:26:55 PM


Isn\'t the lead guitar also a trademark in Edd Kalehoff\'s work?




If it is, then it certainly shines through on his theme for the Nickelodeon \"Double Dare\"

Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: chris319 on August 02, 2013, 07:34:45 AM


 




I could have sworn the first GSN cd had the DD76/CS78 music credited to Kalehoff




 


I\'m thinking either they were wrong or you\'re remembering wrong, because it just doesn\'t soundd like Edd.  For one thing, where were the strings? ;)


 




Which of Kalehoff\'s themes had a string section after he stopped collaborating with Score? Harp, yes, string section no.

Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: dale_grass on August 02, 2013, 08:47:41 PM

Which of Kalehoff\'s themes had a string section after he stopped collaborating with Score? Harp, yes, string section no.


Double Dare (Nickelodeon), for one. Or was that more of Score\'s thing with the strings filling in the background?
Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: chris319 on August 02, 2013, 10:35:57 PM


 



Which of Kalehoff\'s themes had a string section after he stopped collaborating with Score? Harp, yes, string section no.





Double Dare (Nickelodeon), for one. Or was that more of Score\'s thing with the strings filling in the background?

 




Strings or synth? He does use a live harp.


 


Didn\'t MG/HS Hour have a synthesized string section? I couldn\'t get tvpmm to come up yesterday so couldn\'t listen.

Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: chris319 on August 03, 2013, 05:06:10 AM

After listening, MG/HS sounds like live brass with synthesized strings and woodwinds. Score might have used live strings and piccolos where Edd used synth.


Title: Score Productions "Sound"
Post by: dale_grass on August 04, 2013, 10:29:52 AM

Strings or synth?


Oh, definitely synth. Same goes for Feud \'94. I guess a good indicator is live strings vs. synth strings then.

For the \'74 Price reel one of the things that stood out was how the live strings would wail on some tracks, lending a touch of melancholy, almost making me want to run up and give the wicker chair or food processor a hug and tell it that everything was gonna be OK. Luckily the wah pedal would snap me out of it.