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Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 08, 2013, 01:05:46 PM

Came up with a pricing game for discussion.  4 grocery items with a price.  The object-match the prices with the supermarket they came from-Walmart, Ralph\'s or Safeway.  Get all four right, win the big prize. You could make it more difficult by showing all three supermarket prices and matching the price with the supermarket.


Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: pacdude on June 08, 2013, 01:28:27 PM
Hmm, no. You would never get three different supermarkets to agree to do that. Someone who doesn\'t have a Ralph\'s or Safeway won\'t have any frame of reference. That\'s not dealing with the MSRP.


Did I miss anything?
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: TLEberle on June 08, 2013, 01:30:43 PM
Cory brings up an interesting point, though probably accidentally; I thought The Price is Right dealt with what things actually cost, and not what the manufacturer suggests that they be priced at. (Let\'s Make a Deal on the other hand did ask for the manufacturer\'s suggested retail price on the west coast.)
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: clemon79 on June 08, 2013, 01:56:47 PM

If I\'m Ralph\'s, why in the purple hell would I participate in a promotion that merely points out that people can buy the same products I sell for less at other stores?


 


As for the \"what things actually cost\" angle, you have to have a baseline frame of reference to keep the game fair. Otherwise, just in Redmond, I can buy the same bottle of ketchup at three different stores (two of them owned by the same corporation) and the price range between the three might be as much as fifty cents or more. (Maybe a buck. I don\'t buy ketchup at QFC.) When your margin of error jumps into double digits, that breaks a lot of your games. MSRP and ARP are equivalent terms for that purpose. (Also I want to say at some point very early in the run of the show that was specifically referred to more often.)


Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: That Don Guy on June 08, 2013, 05:08:57 PM

This sounds like a game more suited for Let\'s Make a Deal...or at least it would if they offered \"pricing games\".


Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: BrandonFG on June 08, 2013, 05:39:33 PM

Instead of making it about the grocery store, perhaps make it geographical, i.e. a store in L.A., then three other cities across the U.S., or even other countries.


 


I agree that it sounds more like a Let\'s Make a Deal game...


Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: TimK2003 on June 08, 2013, 06:43:07 PM


Hmm, no. You would never get three different supermarkets to agree to do that. Someone who doesn\'t have a Ralph\'s or Safeway won\'t have any frame of reference. That\'s not dealing with the MSRP.


Did I miss anything?




 


This brings up another interesting question:


 


-- Is the show required to use a MSRP for prizes/products that are *not* sponsored by the manufacturer (i.e.  \"Make hair styling easier with this stylish new hair drier\"), or can they use the price that store \'X\' is advertising that item for in that that particular week?

Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: PYLdude on June 08, 2013, 08:46:29 PM


Instead of making it about the grocery store, perhaps make it geographical, i.e. a store in L.A., then three other cities across the U.S., or even other countries.




 


That would certainly make more sense but that doesn\'t really improve on Jimmy\'s original not entirely logical idea. To me, it\'s overcomplicating things and you\'d probably be better off just not doing it altogether IMO.

Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: TLEberle on June 08, 2013, 08:49:15 PM
It\'d be an interesting-er way to do Double Prices: \"Where is a Big Mac more expensive: Rio or Tokyo? Get it right and you win both trips.\" All the same it sill sounds more LMAD than TPIR, but what the hell.
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 08, 2013, 10:37:23 PM

Maybe make it an east-west thing and discard the supermarket tie-in.  Is this bottle of ketchup $1.98 in the east or the west?  Do the reveal and if you get 4 right you win the big prize.

Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: PYLdude on June 08, 2013, 11:10:06 PM


Maybe make it an east-west thing and discard the supermarket tie-in.  Is this bottle of ketchup $1.98 in the east or the west?  Do the reveal and if you get 4 right you win the big prize.




Why not just flip a coin? Accomplishes the same purpose.
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: TLEberle on June 08, 2013, 11:11:43 PM
Nevermind that Kent, Washington and Los Angeles, California are different places and I bet stuff costs different while we\'re on the same coast. But hey, the OP sure is getting lots of action here, isn\'t he.
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: trainman on June 09, 2013, 12:42:51 AM

I thought The Price is Right dealt with what things actually cost, and not what the manufacturer suggests that they be priced at.


They definitely use MSRP. Otherwise, it essentially becomes a series of games of \"what random number are we thinking of?\"
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Post by: TLEberle on June 09, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
So when Bob would announce that the actual retail price of the frenulator was however much, was he making up host language?
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: trainman on June 10, 2013, 01:20:19 AM

So when Bob would announce that the actual retail price of the frenulator was however much, was he making up host language?


The actual manufacturer\'s suggested retail price, as opposed to the contestant\'s guess of the manufacturer\'s suggested retail price.

There\'s no one value they could use for \"what [any prize] is actually sold for in a retail store,\" given how widely that number can vary from store to store, day to day -- or even from person to person, in the case of cars and the like.
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: DoorNumberFour on June 10, 2013, 08:33:51 PM


 



So when Bob would announce that the actual retail price of the frenulator was however much, was he making up host language?





The actual manufacturer\'s suggested retail price, as opposed to the contestant\'s guess of the manufacturer\'s suggested retail price.

 




 


I KNEW I overpaid for my frenulator.

Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: clemon79 on June 10, 2013, 09:19:21 PM

I KNEW I overpaid for my frenulator.


 


Not me. When I walked in the door I remembered the ads on TV, stamped my foot down, and cried out \"I\'m not gonna pay a lot for a frenulator!\" As such the salespeople knew I was a man to be reckoned with, and provided me with a top-quality frenulator at a competitive price.

Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: TLEberle on June 10, 2013, 09:36:13 PM
It\'s true; the first thing I did when I went to visit The All-New Chez Fred was to check out the frenulator. It is as impressive to see in person as it is to hear about online.

What would go into the difference between MSRP and ARP besides profit and cost of shipping/doing business?
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: pacdude on June 11, 2013, 12:19:28 PM

What would go into the difference between MSRP and ARP besides profit and cost of shipping/doing business?


GREED, CAPITALISM AND THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ECONOMY.

Or, I suppose just trying to account for loss leaders, cost of living in an area, etc?
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: clemon79 on June 11, 2013, 12:35:09 PM

cost of living in an area, etc?


 


Largely this, I suspect. My mom marvels when I tell her I get a gallon of milk for under three bucks here, which mostly points out how insanely friggin\' expensive it is to live in Monterey, since Pugetopia isn\'t exactly the cheapest place to live either.


 


Like anything, a business is going to charge what they can get for an item.

Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: PYLdude on June 12, 2013, 04:39:37 AM


cost of living in an area, etc?


 

Largely this, I suspect. My mom marvels when I tell her I get a gallon of milk for under three bucks here, which mostly points out how insanely friggin\' expensive it is to live in Monterey, since Pugetopia isn\'t exactly the cheapest place to live either.

 

Like anything, a business is going to charge what they can get for an item.



Keep also in mind it pays to know where to go.


F\'rinstance: I live within walking distance of three grocery stores: two local chains and an Aldi. I go to the one chain I pay 3.29, the other 3.39. The Aldi, two-something.
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: clemon79 on June 12, 2013, 11:23:11 AM

Keep also in mind it pays to know where to go.


Of course it does. (Hence my comment above about QFC.) My point is that Mom can\'t get a gallon of milk in Monterey under four bones no matter *where* she goes to get it.
Title: TPIR game proposal- "The Price May Vary."
Post by: Neumms on June 15, 2013, 07:14:01 PM

This brings up what strikes me as a small problem--when the producers buy small merchandise items at, say, target.com, which they have said they do. The price at target.com would be much less than MSRP. Does anyone know, do they dig up the MSRP of, say, the Hello Kitty cotton candy maker, or do they use the target.com price?