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Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: pacdude on April 15, 2013, 11:04:01 AM

\"Family Feud started out as a celebration of the common man (and Richard Dawson). Now it’s a venue for dick jokes. What happened?\"


 


http://gameological.com/2013/04/take-two-family-feud/


Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: BillCullen1 on April 15, 2013, 11:47:05 AM

The body part questions, along with host Steve Harvey\'s reactions and commemts to them, are helping the show get ratings and YouTube hits. Plain and simple, but I hear what you\'re saying.


Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: BrandonFG on April 15, 2013, 11:57:23 AM
The body part questions, along with host Steve Harvey\'s reactions and commemts to them, are helping the show get ratings and YouTube hits.

That doesn\'t make the show good or better though. In fact, trolling for Youtube moments is probably one of the most desperate grabs for attention I can think of.


 


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It’s not that the Dawson Feud didn’t have its blue moments or its times when Dawson’s reactions to answers were hilariously exaggerated. But these tended to spring up organically, and they were relatively rare over the course of Dawson’s first decade as host.


Been saying this for awhile now. Good to see someone outside our little circle gets it.

Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: geno57 on April 15, 2013, 12:00:43 PM

How do y\'all feel about Match Game, during its classic years of the \'70s?  \"Boobs\" and \"tinkle\" rarely came up in any natural way.  And yet ...


Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: BrandonFG on April 15, 2013, 12:28:39 PM
The way I see that is, 40 years ago, \"boobs\" was still considered \"risque\", so there was some shock value there.


To me, the line of what\'s considered daring or shocking was crossed sometime in the mid-90s, which is why this shtick is so tired here. Jerry Springer et al have been doing far worse things on daytime TV for close to 20 years now.


/Further than that if you wanna use Phil Donahue to set the precedent
Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: Loogaroo on April 15, 2013, 01:49:52 PM

This is a bit tangential, but we\'re talking about Harvey Feud at length and I absolutely need to say this:


 


I hate, hate, HATE how they use the \'80s-style theme music for the current show. Hate it. It sounds completely out of place for such a modern-looking production, almost like a self-parody. They had a nondescript, up-tempo theme for years that actually worked for the current production, and the decision to go back to the old music to this day annoys the hell out of me.


 


I especially hate how it\'s used for face-offs. It\'s choppy and amateurish - I envision a kid at middle-school talent show hovering over a tape deck, artlessly playing a chunk of a song and trying to stop the tape at the precisely right moment to prevent any unnecessary notes from coming out. That\'s how it sounds.


Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: BrandonFG on April 15, 2013, 02:02:06 PM
I hate, hate, HATE how they use the \'80s-style theme music for the current show. Hate it. It sounds completely out of place for such a modern-looking production, almost like a self-parody. They had a nondescript, up-tempo theme for years that actually worked for the current production, and the decision to go back to the old music to this day annoys the hell out of me.

I can\'t stand it either...I disliked it when it was used for Karn\'s era (well a half-season or so), and I dislike it now. If you\'re not going to use the \"other\" Feud theme (from this current run), at least consider using the \'94 theme. 

Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: J.R. on April 15, 2013, 03:01:57 PM
I can\'t stand it either...I disliked it when it was used for Karn\'s era (well a half-season or so), and I dislike it now. If you\'re not going to use the \"other\" Feud theme (from this current run), at least consider using the \'94 theme. 

As much as I like the 94 theme, I think it\'s just as dated as the Combs-era theme, IMHO. The jazz and slow jam remix is so very Mid 90s.


 


I\'d be in favor of either the theme used in the Anderson/Karn/O\'Hurley era in or a new remix of the classic theme.


Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: dale_grass on April 15, 2013, 03:34:04 PM

As much as I like the 94 theme, I think it\'s just as dated as the Combs-era theme, IMHO. The jazz and slow jam remix is so very Mid 90s.

I\'d be in favor of either the theme used in the Anderson/Karn/O\'Hurley era in or a new remix of the classic theme.

I is in agreement. The way I see it they could bring back Parker\'s arrangements (which would fit like a glove) or grab the multitrack masters from Score and do a modern remix (which would be awesome but costly).
Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: aaron sica on April 17, 2013, 02:59:21 PM
I especially hate how it\'s used for face-offs. It\'s choppy and amateurish - I envision a kid at middle-school talent show hovering over a tape deck, artlessly playing a chunk of a song and trying to stop the tape at the precisely right moment to prevent any unnecessary notes from coming out. That\'s how it sounds.

That, and the zoom shot they use to sync with the last note. I\'m with you there..

Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: Game Show Man on April 17, 2013, 08:32:00 PM
I hate, hate, HATE how they use the \'80s-style theme music for the current show. Hate it. It sounds completely out of place for such a modern-looking production, almost like a self-parody. They had a nondescript, up-tempo theme for years that actually worked for the current production, and the decision to go back to the old music to this day annoys the hell out of me.

QFT.  Nothing is more jarring, more irritating, more half-assed about the current Feud (production-wise) than the use of the Combs-era music package.

Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: PYLdude on April 17, 2013, 09:01:06 PM
<blockquote class=\'ipsBlockquote\'data-author=\"LetsGoYankees\" data-cid=\"307817\" data-time=\"1366238744\"><p>

<blockquote class=\'ipsBlockquote\'data-author=\"pacdude\" data-cid=\"307705\" data-time=\"1366038241\"><p>\"<em class=\'bbc\'>Family Feud started out as a celebration of the common man (and Richard Dawson). Now its a venue for dick jokes. What happened?\"</p>

 


One word: Ratings</p>


Which apparently hasn\'t been an issue because this edition of Feud has been on for fifteen years with not so impressive ratings. Regardless if whether they\'re up or not.
Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: SuperMatch93 on April 17, 2013, 11:26:17 PM

Using the Combs music doesn\'t bother me as much as them playing that tag at the end of EVERY ROUND and coming back from commercials. The tag should just be used when the game is decided and in a Fast Money win.


Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: WarioBarker on April 18, 2013, 01:39:57 AM
Nothing is more jarring, more irritating, more half-assed about the current Feud (production-wise) than the use of the Combs-era music package. 

Nah, I think that title still goes to \"not enough points\" and doing everything they can to avoid having to do a sixth question...except that was (is?) quarter-assed at best.


Something I learned yesterday: the audience now chants \"FAST MONEY!\" for no discernible reason other than to make sure they\'re still awake.


Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: BrandonFG on April 18, 2013, 09:16:20 AM
Using the Combs music doesn\'t bother me as much as them playing that tag at the end of EVERY ROUND and coming back from commercials. The tag should just be used when the game is decided and in a Fast Money win.

That irritates me too, and it did when they used it for Karn. At the very least, use the intro cue from Dawson and Combs\' eras (the ending, not the family intro cues). 


 


You have enough cues in the library to choose from, and honestly, why not just come out of break cold without music, maybe some audience cheering? It worked for Dawson, it worked for Combs, and Wheel/Jeopardy still do it, as does Millionaire IIRC. Oh wait, their producers actually care about the little things...


 


Fremantle really aggravates the hell out of me with some of their half-assed production decisions. If you\'re going to go \"old school\", at least make an effort. Then again, these are the same producers who care more about how many ways they can get contestants to say a variation of the word \"penis\". The stuff they care about baffles me, considering how many other nuances slide.


 


Dan, I think they\'ve been doing the \"Fast Money!\" chant since at least last season. It makes about as much sense as the signs they had audience members holding during the O\'Hurley era.


Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: TLEberle on April 18, 2013, 12:14:34 PM
Nah, I think that title still goes to \"not enough points\" and doing everything they can to avoid having to do a sixth question...except that was (is?) quarter-assed at best.
Of course you do.
Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: Gameshowguy89 on April 26, 2013, 11:30:25 AM

What happened was that from 1999-2010 there weren\'t many funny Family Feud moments and the show was still living in Richard Dawson\'s shadow. When Steve Harvey started hosting, he started chewing contestants out for rotten answers and is funniest host since 1999. Harvey had more funny moments than all of the 3 previous hosts combined and that alone made Family Feud go from \"is that show still on?\" to \"Family Feud is on and it\'s hilarious!\". Some of the humor became forced after some \"Feud Moments\" became a hit on Youtube. Because of this nearly every Round 1 in question in the 2011-2012 season was sexual. Some were funny, but most of it became a sad grab for youtube hits. It does seemed to be less desperate for forced humor in the 2012-2013.


 


This is a bit tangential, but we\'re talking about Harvey Feud at length and I absolutely need to say this:

 


I hate, hate, HATE how they use the \'80s-style theme music for the current show. Hate it. It sounds completely out of place for such a modern-looking production, almost like a self-parody. They had a nondescript, up-tempo theme for years that actually worked for the current production, and the decision to go back to the old music to this day annoys the hell out of me.


 


I especially hate how it\'s used for face-offs. It\'s choppy and amateurish - I envision a kid at middle-school talent show hovering over a tape deck, artlessly playing a chunk of a song and trying to stop the tape at the precisely right moment to prevent any unnecessary notes from coming out. That\'s how it sounds.


 


Are you kidding me? The original theme music is just as much part of Family Feud as the sound effects. The only problems I see with the original theme is that it\'s edited just as bad as that generic techno junk from 1999-2008. I hate how the main theme is used for a face-off cue and how \"the game win\" cue is used; to end the host intro, for coming back from commercial, and for winning a non-game win round. The latter should be remedied by use the bell sound effect (the one still used in fast money) to signify a winning a non-game win round. Heck they even used it on Louie Anderson\'s version.


 


I wouldn\'t mind some updates to the original music. The show used a remixed fiddle face-off cue and the fiddle/electric guitar hybrid cue in the 2002-2003 season and theres a version of \"The Feud\" theme with a techno beat added in. They should use that music for the current episodes, it would be better than going back to some generic techno junk. I hate, hate, HATE that crappy generic techno junk they used from 1999-2008.


Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: clemon79 on April 26, 2013, 03:30:26 PM
 Harvey had more funny moments than all of the 3 previous hosts combined and that alone made Family Feud go from \"is that show still on?\" to \"Family Feud is on and it\'s hilarious!\".

Channeling the Bill Cosby Funny Surprised Face was starting to get old when *Bill Cosby* was still doing it.
 
Are you kidding me?

No, he\'s not. The way the cue has been edited to use on every. part. of. the. show. sounds like crap. Which appears to be a point you agree with.

So, no, Not kidding.
Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: TLEberle on April 26, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
Sigh. Welcome aboard, FNG.
Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: Gameshowguy89 on April 27, 2013, 11:14:41 AM

Clemon79 said:




No, he\'s not. The way the cue has been edited to use on every. part. of. the. show. sounds like crap. Which appears to be a point you agree with.


So, no, Not kidding.

 


That we agree on, but I don\'t agree the that techno crap that they had used worked better. The techno crap was just as repeatative as using the same part of the 1988 theme over and over and just terrible terrible music altogether. The decision to go back to the 1988 theme doesn\'t annoy me because I\'d rather hear a butchered edit of good music than techno crap anyday.

Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: clemon79 on April 27, 2013, 01:35:24 PM
The decision to go back to the 1988 theme doesn\'t annoy me because I\'d rather hear a butchered edit of good music than techno crap anyday.

 


Well, you\'re entitled to your opinion, but I think the rest of us would prefer to hear an actual for-purpose music *package* that a single cue that sounds like it\'s been whizzed about in a Cuisinart.

Title: Family Feud: What Happened
Post by: Gameshowguy89 on April 27, 2013, 06:45:31 PM
Well, you\'re entitled to your opinion, but I think the rest of us would prefer to hear an actual for-purpose music *package* that a single cue that sounds like it\'s been whizzed about in a Cuisinart.

 


Well I said I didn\'t like how the original theme was edited and that I\'d like them to use the additional cues to go along with it, so, yeah, I\'d perfer an actual music package as well.