Recently been watching a lot of Sale of the Century episodes on YouTube, been trying to figure out how to tell between the NBC and Syndicated shows. Here\'s what I\'ve deduced on my own...
Not sure how to tell beyond that, any advice would be appreciated.
From what it appears, yes. Some technical differences...
-The syndicated version did its contestant/ticket plug before the closing credits...every NBC episode I\'ve seen did plugs coming back from one of the commercial breaks.
-IIRC, they also used video clips for the contestant prize plugs, instead of closeups of art cards (similar to the $100K Pyramid, as opposed to the daytime version)
-For the \"closing logo\" buffs such as myself, the syndicated version had an on-screen credit that read \"Distributed By Genesis Entertainment\".
Would the contestant/ticket plugs be left intact in the USA airings? Probably not, I would assume.
And the \"art cards vs. video clips\", you mean for consolation prize plugs at the end?
And I\'ll have to keep my eyes peeled for the Genesis Entertainment credit, thank you.
Would the contestant/ticket plugs be left intact in the USA airings? Probably not, I would assume.
And the \"art cards vs. video clips\", you mean for consolation prize plugs at the end?
Yes and yes. USA generally kept contestant/ticket plugs in, and simply added a \"Phone Number Not Active\" disclaimer at the bottom of the screen.
Would the contestant/ticket plugs be left intact in the USA airings? Probably not, I would assume.
And the \"art cards vs. video clips\", you mean for consolation prize plugs at the end?
Yes and yes. USA generally kept contestant/ticket plugs in, and simply added a \"Phone Number Not Active\" disclaimer at the bottom of the screen.
Smart idea with the \"Phone Number Not Active\" disclaimer... why GSN couldn\'t be bothered to do that, I don\'t know. Just a minor pet peeve, nothing too big.
Here\'s another one:
The syndicated episodes, as well as post-1984 NBC episodes, featured a rhinestone font for the $100,000 text in the opening, as opposed to the WOF one (not sure of the font), and a smaller font for the instant bargains dollar amounts.
I think the \"$100,000\" font you\'re thinking of is Impact.
They used a couple of fonts for the \"$100,000\" display. Impact was the first or second season for that and early Instant Bargains...IIRC, that font was also used to display how much was being offered on Wheel.
They\'re were also a few variations of Helvetica (Black), which seemed to be the standard NBC font. There were the \"rhinestones\" (late-1984 to the end of the run), and before that, a plain solid yellow \"$100,000\" (another NBC game staple in the 80s), then yet another plain yellow one, but with two horizontal lines above and below the dollar figure.
/Was never a big fan of Impact
//Looked too.....gaudy
It wasn\'t Impact, although I don\'t know what font it was. The 2 in Impact connects straight diagonally to the bottom, while the 2 in that NBC font curves in its connection to the bottom.
For reference, I looked through a few episodes and was able to find the many different styles. The episodes are from (clockwise from upper left: July 1983, early 1984, December 1984, and 1986. I think the rhinestones were in place by spring of 1985.
Whenever they started using the font Doug describes is about the time they started superimposing the briefcase of dollars over the shot of the car. Looked much cooler than the money falling from nowhere.
Here are some ways to find the differences of Syndie and Daytime.
On the syndicated episodes, take a look at the fame game board (for season II). The numbers 1 - 9 are ugly dark orange on a yellow background.
Instant Cash is a daytime-only thing.
One that was mentioned already: USA logo = Syndicated, unless the end game is Winner\'s Big Money Game.
If there is shopping round at the end and Summer Bartholomew is the model: syndicated.
Roughly when did the original tan/beige set with the rainbow buzzers change to the orange set and podiums? And when did they stop using celebrity faces on the Fame Game board?
^Almost simultaneously in mid-1984. I want to say that the gold set and the numbers-only board was implemented at the same time, if not within weeks of each other (the numbers coming slightly before the golden array).
The Inquisitive One
I know David Rogers\' $109,000 win still had the tan set, so the speed round was implemented before the set change.
Quite a few cash jackpot wins came during the \"Rainbow Buzzers\" era. It can be determined that the Speed Round was the first permanent change before the set changeovers...
The Inquisitive One
Any other full lot wins besides Mort Camens and Barbara Phillips?
Any other full lot wins besides Mort Camens and Barbara Phillips?
They all came on the syndicated edition, and this was only because they made it where you can win the cash jackpot only by winning the lot. The most notable was Tim Holleran\'s lot win, where he won $90,000 on top of his prizes, pushing his total win just shy of $160,000.
The Inquisitive One
EDIT: I am basing this on the shopping era only. I am aware there were a bunch of lot wins during the Winner\'s Board era, but I figured he meant during shopping.
Correct, I meant shopping era, and I would assume there probably would have been more lot wins in the NBC series if you could not have taken the jackpot by itself (like the syndicated show did)
Bryce, do you know what Google is?
Yes. The good thing about here is, you all know what you\'re talking about
Yes. The good thing about here is, you all know what you\'re talking about
And the bad thing is that a lot of people resent you using them as your personal Google.
The change from beige set to gold set in our version was in stark contrast to the Down Under version.
Over there, their original beige set was used from 1980 to 1986, and the shopping at the end of the show in their version was used until 1989. However, their second set wasn\'t a gold one. It was more of something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZMChErOyY
Yes. The good thing about here is, you all know what you\'re talking about
And the bad thing is that a lot of people resent you using them as your personal Google.
And this is a fan forum, not Gameshowkipedia.
Once or twice is okay, but every other post? Some of this stuff you ask, Bryce, is common knowledge on the Interwebz and it would be wise for you to start using them first. I almost miss chrisholland\'s lame stand-up comedian act or musicman\'s blaming of all the world\'s problems on David Letterman.
musicman\'s blaming of all the world\'s problems on David Letterman.
That was out of line for him to do that.
/Especially because it\'s really Leno who\'s at fault.
Once or twice is okay, but every other post? Some of this stuff you ask, Bryce, is common knowledge on the Interwebz and it would be wise for you to start using them first.Sometimes there\'s a question where an acquaintance of mine will know the answer outright and I don\'t want to swim through a pile of Google\'s results. The problem I have here is that Bryce seems to do little but ask questions and really hasn\'t built up much equity. Whether it was Rotisserie Jeopardy or asking the bargain values of prizes in the Sale showroom, and now this it just doesn\'t end.
Right. Even though it\'s easy to snark about, sometimes asking outright is easier, esp. with the search function being so clunky (if not non-existent with the new board). That doesn\'t mean ask a hundred questions. Wikipedia is at least a good starting point.
I don\'t deny that asking around is usually helpful when you want to find out certain things about certain shows. The good thing is that we\'ve got a lot of people who\'ve done a lot of work behind the scenes (well, maybe not a lot lot, but enough lol). But I\'m not going to ask something that I could easily find out unless I\'ve heard conflicting reports from various sources and want to confirm one way or another through some of our more observant members.
Back to the topic - one other distinction between network and syndicated: the closing full credits were a crawl on network and still frames on syndie.
The same thing would probably also apply to taping tickets. For game shows where they did daytime and syndicated editions at the same time, taping tickets with the networks\' logo were for the daytime edition, and taping tickets with no such logo were for the syndicated one.
I\'ve seen lots of them on eBay, that\'s how I noticed it.
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