Browsing YouTube tonight (can you tell it\'s slow at work?), I came across the same category in two different clips, with seemingly different judging on what was essentially the same clue.
Exhibit A, at 15 seconds in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKvAEMsS0Ys
Exhibit B, at 1:02 in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk9Zcgc39Uk
Now, I realize that in the first clip she said \"salespeople\" and in the second clip Levar said \"salesperson\", but aren\'t they the same clue? If the issue was that she said \"people\" -- I can\'t imagine saying \"person\" instead makes it suddenly okay. To be honest, I thought that her getting buzzed in the first clip was a little bit extreme, but that\'s just my two cents. Opinions?
Seems pretty nitpicky to me too, not to mention inconsistent. It reminds me of another Winner\'s Circle where coincidentally LeVar Burton got zapped for saying \"26 Across\" as a clue for \"THINGS IN A CROSSWORD PUZZLE\". The ruling was later reversed and the contestant won.
I would think the same logic applies here, esp. since they allowed it in the second clip, and given that People is a common plural form of Person. Yes, a keyword was used, but in a different context to where it shouldn\'t give away the answer. IMO, it also reminds me of categories where Dick/Bill/John/Donny/Mike would say \"Phrases with the word \'White\' in them, and you can say \'White.\' \"
If you read part of the answer aloud you lose your shot at the top prize.
No joy.
Doesn\'t apply with the word \"Things\".
Doesn\'t apply with the word \"Things\".
Why not?
Doesn\'t apply with the word \"Things\".
Why not?
Dunno why, but it didn\'t. Here\'s two examples, and I\'m sure there\'s more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isf9_Bavwh8#t=1m15s
(1:15)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTsx8AWEco#t=1m5s
(1:05)
I just want to go on record as saying the last trilon spining while falling off the bottom of the screen after the top box is blown is one of my favorite game show effects.
Starting sometime in 1987, they wouldn\'t even allow the giver to say \"person\" if the category contained \"people.\" I saw two different celebs get buzzed on PEOPLE WHOM YOU HELP for that reason. Even this rule wasn\'t enforced 100%, though, as Teresa Ganzel wasn\'t buzzed for saying \"A freshly bathed person\" for PEOPLE WHO WEAR A ROBE in 1988.
So summary:
Absolutely agreeing with that. The concern for some here is that you\'re not comparing 78 to 85, but basically the same series to itself. If you don\'t know the timeline of rules changes, seeing those two clips, from the same series and on the same set, can be a bit jarring.
Doesn\'t make it wrong. Just jarring.
Sports leagues change their rules every year for all sorts of reasons. It shouldn\'t be surprising that a game show changes their rules in order to make a better game and/or better show. Consistency is great but it seems a tall order to expect a judge in 1985 to call things right down the same line as a different judge would have done in 1978.
I suspect that as players got better at the game, the rules got stricter to compensate. In the very first clip of the very first \"What Not to Do\" video, Geoff Edwards gives \"People with no clothes on\" as a clue for \"Things that Streak\". It was fine back then; no way it survives a buzzer in the \'80s. By the mid-\'80s, Stewart and company probably concluded that everyone had essentially figured the game out and there\'d be no more gimmes.
I\'m surprised that they didn\'t name the category as \"THINGS THAT ARE COMMISSIONED\", or would that have eliminated all people, since it is asking for \"things\"?
You commission an officer.
Prepositional phrases, and the use of them, which were supposedly verboten in the Winner\'s Circle across all versions, have always been a textbook example of the inconsistency of judging on Pyramid. I counted several in the two original clips posted here that weren\'t buzzed along with one or two that were.
Does anyone know who the judge was before David Michaels came in? Was it Stewart himself or someone else? That may have something to do with it.
Does anyone know who the judge was before David Michaels came in? Was it Stewart himself or someone else? That may have something to do with it.
For the first few years of the series, Stewart himself. Later in the New York run, Francine Bergman. (Source) I would also imagine Anne-Marie Schmitt would have stepped in a few times, although I can\'t find anything for sure with her name attached to the job.