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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: gsfan85 on July 10, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
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Hey everyone,
Has anyone noticed since yesterday, that GSN has a weird fake film look? Not sure why this is, but figured maybe it was just a Comcast issue.
If anyone else seeing the same thing?
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I notice it especially on $25K Pyramid (except that I have Charter). During the second game, it switches to the "film look" and back to the smooth, natural videotape look.
I hate it with a burning passion. It reminds me of what BCI did to The Best of Password DVD, and what Shout! Factory did to S7 of All in the Family.
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I hate it with a burning passion.
I suggest you're giving it WAY too much emotional involvement, then.
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We have Cox in this area (snicker), but I noticed a filmy look on the TBS HD feed of later "Fresh Prince" episodes (season 6). The eps. from the first two seasons still look normal.
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It could be a oddity with compression or analog to digital conversion.
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I hate it with a burning passion.
Have you tried Gold Bond?
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I hate it with a burning passion.
Have you tried Gold Bond?
I was going to go to this guy. (http://"http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb473/jjman920/JohnMaddenTinactin.jpg")
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I hate it with a burning passion.
Because it's such an atrocity more heinous than war or starvation.
Get an f-ing grip.
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Know what's funny? Nothing is ever measured with this guy. It is always an extreme of one or another.
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I do not follow. What does that mean?
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Which part of our wordplay befuddles you?
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To put it quite simply, are you saying that I complain about one thing, and then complain another?
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quite simply
When somebody puts the words "quite" and "simply" in a sentence, I look askance at it, as if the sentence will be of dubious quality.
No, I'm saying that your complaints are loud and vociferous and on things that really don't deserve that level of consternation.
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To put it quite simply, are you saying that I complain about one thing, and then complain another?
Are you seriously asking that with a straight face?
/You're almost too good to be true...
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Allow me to pose a more beneficial and sane question:
Has there ever been a time since 12/1/94 that this channel hasn't been wonky on the tech side?
/I rest my case
//That's all that needs to be said
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We are getting the weird film look here on Comcast in the Florida Keys. I notice it more on the HD TV than the old tv.
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To put it quite simply, are you saying that I complain about one thing, and then complain another?
Sometimes an explanation is necessary, and who knows, maybe even educational.
What he's saying (and it's a good point) is that you have extreme opinions about everything, no matter how insignificant they might seem to other people. GSN is experiencing some technical weirdness that makes the picture look a little funky. Is that really something that you need to "hate with a burning passion"?
/The correct answer, by the way, is "no, it's not".
//It will be interesting to compare that with your answer.
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I just noticed it during Who's the Boss? and I wondered what was up with that?!
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I just noticed it during Who's the Boss? and I wondered what was up with that?!
Also curious. (http://"http://www.clicker.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/kenan.png")
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I just noticed it during Who's the Boss? and I wondered what was up with that?!
Mike Wallace or Tony Danza version? :) It's strange that it would happen on HDTVs only. Must be an incompatibility issue with older video standards.
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I remember while watching a Super Password episode a couple days ago noticing that something seemed different about the puzzle board ... the colors seemed duller than normal (but that's not unusual for SD on an HD set). Is that what we're talking about? I think of a filmic look as a good thing.
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When my sister and her husband got their first Blu-ray player, she complained to me that movies were looking like video. When I saw Blu-ray in action on an HDTV at a local Best Buy store, I could see what she meant - it was as if a movie on Blu-ray was too smooth, too liquid, too sharp - in other words, too video-like.
YMMV.
I've also been amazed by something called 24-frame video, which makes video look like film. On YouTube, there's a bunch of Chicago kids doing their own version of the "Jai Ho" dance number from "Slumdog Millionaire," and it looks very film-like, even though it was shot with an HDTV "prosumer" camcorder.
Go figure.
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When my sister and her husband got their first Blu-ray player, she complained to me that movies were looking like video. When I saw Blu-ray in action on an HDTV at a local Best Buy store, I could see what she meant - it was as if a movie on Blu-ray was too smooth, too liquid, too sharp - in other words, too video-like.
A friend of mine just got a 3D TV and BluRay player, and I noticed the same exact thing while watching "Inception". Another friend and I agreed that it looked too crisp, almost as if it were shot on a camcorder, because of the tape-like quality. Was very distracting.
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It has to do with the refresh rate of the TV. 120Hz and higher gives that fake video look. I bought a Sony with a 60Hz refresh rate for that very reason.
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I could see what she meant - it was as if a movie on Blu-ray was too smooth, too liquid, too sharp
This concept, for some reason I am utterly unable to process it.
(My TV also has a smoothing function that basically extrapolates 30FPS video up to 60. (120? I can't remember if my TV is 60Hz or 120Hz.) It is AWESOME.)
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It has to do with the refresh rate of the TV. 120Hz and higher gives that fake video look. I bought a Sony with a 60Hz refresh rate for that very reason.
I hope you saved a bundle buying old tech, because I'm pretty sure that quality can be minimized or eliminated entirely through menu settings on such TVs if it annoys you that much.
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It has to do with the refresh rate of the TV. 120Hz and higher gives that fake video look. I bought a Sony with a 60Hz refresh rate for that very reason.
I hope you saved a bundle buying old tech, because I'm pretty sure that quality can be minimized or eliminated entirely through menu settings on such TVs if it annoys you that much.
I didn't say it annoyed me, I just like films to look like films, not like they were shot on videotape. YMMV. If there is a TV with a setting to take care of that, I'm completely on board with that.
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(My TV also has a smoothing function that basically extrapolates 30FPS video up to 60. (120? I can't remember if my TV is 60Hz or 120Hz.) It is AWESOME.)
That's pretty much the feature that MrBuddwing is talking about. Depending on the TV manufacturer, it's called AutoMotion, TruMotion, MotionFlow, ClearScan, etc. It's essentially a frame rate upconverter, turning any video into 120 (or 240, depending on the refresh rate) FPS by interpolating frames in real time.
There's a program called SmoothVideo Project (http://"http://www.svp-team.com/") which plays videos in Media Player Classic with this motion interpolation on. It's really useful for game show clips, which are normally encoded at 30 FPS; it restores the videotape look that most game shows are supposed to have.
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I noticed this yesterday on American Bible Challenge and I have DirecTV. I figured they hit the "film-look" button for some ill-advised reason. Match Game '74 and Super Password look crisp and clear.