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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: snowpeck on July 04, 2012, 04:29:33 AM
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I feel like Chuck Donegan now... did anyone manage to record this morning's (3AM eastern time) $25K Pyramid? I forgot to set my DVR and don't know if it will even be on the Sunday lineup long enough to circulate back to that one.
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Gotta ask quickly- is there a way to trade recordings on DVRs, as in can you do it directly from one DVR to another provided both are hooked up to some form of internet connection? (Sorry, Greg, can't help ya big man.)
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Not with ones provided by cable companies (mine is a Comcast box.) Tivo perhaps though. I've been burning the current batch of episodes to DVD lately. Been good about remembering to record until today. (Series recording is useless because it catches all the repeats.)
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Greg, I have a copy if you still need it.
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Sent you an email through the forum.
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Gotta ask quickly- is there a way to trade recordings on DVRs, as in can you do it directly from one DVR to another provided both are hooked up to some form of internet connection? (Sorry, Greg, can't help ya big man.)
Oh my LORD would the content providers crap themselves if that ever became possible. Remember that this is an industry that would just as soon you didn't even have the DVR in the first place.
(And by that I mean "if a DVR maker ever tried to implement it." It's absolutely *technically* possible.)
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A while back I watched some 1978 WEWS Morning Exchange Interviews on YouTube with the "Special Counsel to the Recording Industry on Piracy"..Rather a humorless gentleman actually..with Fred Griffith and Joel Rose..Check out the early Video Recorder..They are recording themselves on the Morning Exchange as the interview is going on..
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Sent you an email through the forum.
Responded via e-mail, let me know if you didn't receive.
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I have an output on my DVR which allows me to copy to VCR. I know it works, because I've done it. (16x9 becomes cut 4x3.) But other than that, I have no idea what I'd need to send the output to my computer. Software? Hardware?
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I have an output on my DVR which allows me to copy to VCR. I know it works, because I've done it. (16x9 becomes cut 4x3.) But other than that, I have no idea what I'd need to send the output to my computer. Software? Hardware?
Probably depends on your DVR. For Tivo, if it's on your network your computer can connect to it to download shows, and stripping the encryption from it is a pretty simple matter. I don't know how hard it is with the Comcast and et. and al. DVRs, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a way to do it, provided there's a way for a computer network to connect to it.
EDIT: A little Googling says it's doable via FireWire with Comcast anyhow, but holy hell is it a pain.
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Nevermind... turns out Nick set the DVR and didn't tell me about it. False alarm I guess.
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Glad to hear Nick got it for ya. He's a good guy. Hold onto him. ;-) (HI NICK!)
You can't do "season pass"-style recordings with a Comcast DVR? And I thought Time-Warner's DVR was a piece of junk.
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Comcast calls it a "series recording" and I could do that, but it would catch all the repeats as well as the Friday night marathons, which I'm not interested in for several reasons. The HD version of GSN stretches those episodes out to fill the 16:9 aspect ratio, and the SD version has local Comcast ads that never fail to cut off about a minute of the second round.
I guess it might be easier to remember to delete the recordings I don't want every couple days than to remember to set a manual recording every day.
And also, I am using the firewire method to record the shows to my computer, and then to a DVD. It's actually rather easy once you get the right drivers installed. Just hook the box up to the PC, run an application called "CapDVHS," roll the program, and hit record.
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Glad to hear Nick got it for ya. He's a good guy. Hold onto him. ;-) (HI NICK!)
You can't do "season pass"-style recordings with a Comcast DVR? And I thought Time-Warner's DVR was a piece of junk.
Time Warner DVR's still are a piece of junk..BTW, still liking U-Verse?
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Time Warner DVR's still are a piece of junk..BTW, still liking U-Verse?
Very much so! Even though I lost a few channels by leaving Time-Warner (digital sub-channels like Antenna TV and MeTV), I gained more, like NFL Network and Boomerang, at a much lower price. I like that the U-Verse DVR pads all recordings by a minute, for those networks that start early or are all over the map when it comes to start times. (I'm looking square at you, Viacom channels.) I also like that I can record a show from the DVR here in the den, but watch it down here or in the living room or bedroom. Doubling my DSL speeds to 12 Mbps down/1.5 Mbps up is also very nice.
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Time Warner DVR's still are a piece of junk..BTW, still liking U-Verse?
Very much so! Even though I lost a few channels by leaving Time-Warner (digital sub-channels like Antenna TV and MeTV), I gained more, like NFL Network and Boomerang, at a much lower price.
I got all that on FiOS...including Antenna and Me. :P
(sorry Mike)
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Time Warner DVR's still are a piece of junk..BTW, still liking U-Verse?
Very much so! Even though I lost a few channels by leaving Time-Warner (digital sub-channels like Antenna TV and MeTV), I gained more, like NFL Network and Boomerang, at a much lower price.
I got all that on FiOS...including Antenna and Me. :P
(sorry Mike)
Why I continue to use Comcast, I don't even know. Out of all of these, I only have NFL Network in my area. I also don't get GSN HD. I don't get it. What is it about the Baltimore area that Comcast can't at least acquire Boomerang? It's frankly frustrating. I believe the only reason I'm sticking around is because of the bundled service and I like their internet.
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and I like their internet.
If you are capable of switching to FiOS, you will like their internet more. Trust me.
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So GSN actually got an HD feed? Nonexistent on FiOS.
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So GSN actually got an HD feed? Nonexistent on FiOS.
Had it with Time-Warner, don't with U-Verse. Like TBS and Cartoon Network, GSN enjoys stretching 4:3 video to 16:9.
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So GSN actually got an HD feed? Nonexistent on FiOS.
Had it with Time-Warner, don't with U-Verse. Like TBS and Cartoon Network, GSN enjoys stretching 4:3 video to 16:9.
See, I don't have Cartoon Network HD either, so I wouldn't know.
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So GSN actually got an HD feed? Nonexistent on FiOS.
Had it with Time-Warner, don't with U-Verse. Like TBS and Cartoon Network, GSN enjoys stretching 4:3 video to 16:9.
See, I don't have Cartoon Network HD either, so I wouldn't know.
No TBS HD? Watch the hatchet job they do to Family Guy.
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So GSN actually got an HD feed? Nonexistent on FiOS.
A feature, far as I'm concerned. Who gives a flying FARK about watching what is 90% old content on an HD channel? That's bandwidth better spent elsewhere.
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Is Family Feud in HD? If so, that's 80% of GSN's schedule in HD right there. ;-)
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Is Family Feud in HD? If so, that's 80% of GSN's schedule in HD right there. ;-)
I believe they made the switch this past season.
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Is Family Feud in HD? If so, that's 80% of GSN's schedule in HD right there. ;-)
I believe they made the switch this past season.
I think the switch to HD is this coming season.
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Is Family Feud in HD? If so, that's 80% of GSN's schedule in HD right there. ;-)
I believe they made the switch this past season.
I think the switch to HD is this coming season.
Nevertheless, well played, Ted. :)
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Who gives a flying FARK about watching what is 90% old content on an HD channel? That's bandwidth better spent elsewhere.
I note that DirecTV, which owns a piece of GSN, doesn't carry GSN HD.
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Is Family Feud in HD? If so, that's 80% of GSN's schedule in HD right there. ;-)
Liar! FF only represents 26% of the network's schedule.
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So GSN actually got an HD feed? Nonexistent on FiOS.
A feature, far as I'm concerned. Who gives a flying FARK about watching what is 90% old content on an HD channel? That's bandwidth better spent elsewhere.
Fair point, but what would you rather have- GSN HD or the Byron Allen channels?
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The downside of GSN HD, is the fact that older shows are zoomed-in and stretched, something the regular GSN never does.
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The downside of GSN HD, is the fact that older shows are zoomed-in and stretched, something the regular GSN never does.
Only in primetime. The daytime/overnight lineup has black bars on the sides.
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Fair point, but what would you rather have- GSN HD or the Byron Allen channels?
If we're operating under the assumption that I have standard-def GSN either way (and we are, because I do), and the bandwidth *had* to be spent on one or the other? I'll give the bandwidth to Byron every day and twice on Sunday, simply because it's different content. Now, if Teh Pyramid is a massive hit, maybe I'll feel differently, but today, right now, I will take two channels of differing content over the same content being rehashed on a second channel in a fashion that adds nothing whatsoever to the content.
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Fair point, but what would you rather have- GSN HD or the Byron Allen channels?
If we're operating under the assumption that I have standard-def GSN either way (and we are, because I do), and the bandwidth *had* to be spent on one or the other? I'll give the bandwidth to Byron every day and twice on Sunday, simply because it's different content. Now, if Teh Pyramid is a massive hit, maybe I'll feel differently, but today, right now, I will take two channels of differing content over the same content being rehashed on a second channel in a fashion that adds nothing whatsoever to the content.
This is where we disagree. Byron Allen's filler material is already seen seven days a week on stations all across the nation (with the possible exception of "America's Court"- in only that I won't consider it to be too much in the way of filler). Why does he need a channel, then, to rerun the same episodes of Comics Unleashed syndication has been beating to death since the show both a) premiered, and b) stopped first-run episodes?
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Why does he need a channel, then, to rerun the same episodes of Comics Unleashed syndication has been beating to death since the show both a) premiered, and b) stopped first-run episodes?
I have never seen a single episode of Comics Unleashed.
Sometimes I want a certain type of TV as background noise. Cooking and stand-up comedy work well to that end, in my house.
(are you really citing rerun abuse as an argument FOR a duplicate GSN?)
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(are you really citing rerun abuse as an argument FOR a duplicate GSN?)
Not really- my point is that why shouldn't GSN have an HD feed and why is it more of a waste of bandwidth than channels that rerun the same things you could watch on any given Saturday/late night because your local station(s) need something to fill a slot and don't necessarily want to show people the wonders of the Magic Bullet again? To me it doesn't seem like it's that much of a major issue- unlike, say, the disputes over rights fees to carry certain channels (regardless of whoever you believe is in the right, re: the Cablevision-Fox debacle of 2009 and the Dish-AMC Networks to-do this past year).
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Not really- my point is that why shouldn't GSN have an HD feed and why is it more of a waste of bandwidth
But you are. Your argument appears to be "the Byron channels are showing content that has been run into the ground on other channels at 4:00a." At least those have been run into the ground on other channels. GSN is showing crap that has been run into the ground *on GSN*.
The lone argument here is if, like many channels (Food Network comes immediately to mind, at least on FiOS), the SD version carries a West Coast feed while the HD version is East Coast. Otherwise, it's a waste of bandwidth because *it's the same signal.*
than channels that rerun the same things you could watch on any given Saturday/late night
Because I can't, necessarily. Maybe my local channel doesn't happen to be running a Byron show at the time I'm in the mood to have one on. I don't understand why "a exact duplicate channel versus a non-duplicate" is such a hard concept to understand.
To me it doesn't seem like it's that much of a major issue
...then why did you ask the question in the first place?
You asked a simple binary question, I answered that binary question and provided my reasoning for doing so. Certainly you are under no obligation to agree with me, but at the same time I don't think you're even acknowledging the arguments, either. And that makes people not want to bother with you.
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Well, Chris, no offense, but when your argument is basically "it shouldn't have an HD feed because I don't think it should", it doesn't help me out very much.
I mean, you're calling me obstinate but you're doing the exact same thing you're accusing me of doing.
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Well, Chris, no offense, but when your argument is basically "it shouldn't have an HD feed because I don't think it should", it doesn't help me out very much.
Except that's not my argument in the least, your audacity in suggesting it is speaks volumes as to why words like "pissant" get tossed in your direction, and no, I'm not going to reiterate my argument for you, because you are perfectly capable of going back and reading the posts that clearly you didn't the first time.
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Well, Chris, no offense, but when your argument is basically "it shouldn't have an HD feed because I don't think it should", it doesn't help me out very much.
Except that's not my argument in the least, your audacity in suggesting it is speaks volumes as to why words like "pissant" get tossed in your direction, and no, I'm not going to reiterate my argument for you, because you are perfectly capable of going back and reading the posts that clearly you didn't the first time.
Alright whoa. First of all, I wasn't being snarky at all when I said that. Second of all, I'm trying to understand your point and I can't. You're saying that GSN shouldn't have an HD feed. Fine. But you gotta give me more than what you have been if you want me to see it as being the waste you think it is, and in my mind because you're not it reads a lot like it's just "I don't like it therefore it should not be." I read what you said a couple times over. What am I missing?
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What am I missing?
Oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh. No. I made a promise.
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What am I missing?
I will try this one more time and one more time only.
*it's the same signal.* (as the already-existing SD feed that will be there regardless.)
I said that twice, really three times, in this thread. If you still insist on equating that with "because I don't think there should be one," then you're being every bit as obstinate as people have come to expect from you.
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*it's the same signal.* (as the already-existing SD feed that will be there regardless.)
I said that twice, really three times, in this thread. If you still insist on equating that with "because I don't think there should be one," then you're being every bit as obstinate as people have come to expect from you.
Alrighty then. Now that I read it again, I kinda get where you're coming from better.
I'm in "agree to disagree" mode at this point, though. Whaddaya say?
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I'm in "agree to disagree" mode at this point, though. Whaddaya say?
I'm not trying to get you to agree with me, in all honesty. You asked a question, I answered it, you misrepresented my answer, and after being called out on that you reread it and claim to understand it better now. Next issue.