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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: The Pyramids on June 06, 2012, 08:29:08 PM
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Imagine if a stash of long lost videotaped was discovered and posted online for all to watch. Would you want it to be 1960's era "Tonight" shows with Jack Paar and Johnny Carson, or say episodes of "The Big Showdown" and the "Money Maze"? I would like to see Johnny & Jack.
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Good question, actually.
As much as I'd love me some Carson, shows from the 1960s might be a bit too disconnected for me to truly enjoy. I would love to see more of "The Big Showdown", so I'd go with that.
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I would be thrilled if the entire run of MG/HS hour was unearthed. Always enjoyed that show. I couldn't have been the only one that put on my Halloween costume (I was 9) when watching the premiere.
Another one I'd like to see is one I can't find on Youtube.....Was an occasional "afterschool" CBS show....Hosted by a future "Revenge of the Nerds" cast member.....Aired on a monthly basis I think? Razzmatazz.
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Fun question, but I think I'd still choose Big Showdown/Money Maze, mainly because the former is one of the most perfectly-crafted shows I have ever seen, and I'd love to see more, esp. any $10,000 "Show Down" wins.
With Carson, it would be great to find full episodes from the early years, but the fact that there are more from, say the last 2/3 of his tenure (not to mention the clip shows from lost episodes) is pretty good consolation.
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Gotta be The Big Showdown/Money Maze. I would hunger for a full eposode of BOTH actually. Carson's good, as long as I see Carmac in any of them, that's where I want to go with Mr. Johnny Carson.
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Big Showdown and Money Maze.
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I would be thrilled if the entire run of MG/HS hour was unearthed. Always enjoyed that show.
You're in a very small minority.
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All 1980s NBC daytime episodes of $ale of the Century, from 1983-September 1988. Mitt Dawson said that they, as in Reg Grundy Productions, Inc. didn't save the daytime episodes, until the last 6 months of taping. He also said that just before he left, there was an archive of Beta viewing/reference tapes in the office of EVERY episode, both network and syndicated editions. Those may, or may not, be still around.
USA showed episodes with the winner's board, but they were from when the syndicated edition switched from the shopping format.
And these words were straight from Mitt Dawson's mouth. Why would he lie?
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Big Showdown/Money Maze for sure.
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And these words were straight from Mitt Dawson's mouth. Why would he lie?
You are ridiculously melodramatic.
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Those may, or may not, be still around.
Not this again. I'd like to know where you get this stupid conspiracy theory that the tapes are gone, outside of that moron on GSN's message boards who claimed they were destroyed out of spite.
Of course, you think the PYL episodes (http://"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=23200&view=findpost&p=284342") that GSN didn't show are gone for no valid reason either, so this is no surprise.
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Again, it came from Mitt Dawson. He is not a liar and a fraud. He used to work for Reg Grundy Productions. Here's his site:
http://www.youtube.com/user/mittdawson
And here's something else to consider: Why else would USA show only the last 6 months of the daytime run, and the entire syndicated run? I don't think it was merely because USA chose to lease for a portion of the run. It may have been all that was left.
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Horan, is that you?
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I'll end this now, by saying that I'll take Mitt Dawson's word as the truth, and nothing but the truth.
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Again, it came from Mitt Dawson. He is not a liar and a fraud.
I don't buy it for a second.
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I don't think anyone's saying Mitt's a liar, but things don't add up for a couple of reasons.
1. Why would Reg Grundy Productions keep the less-successful version of "Sale", which only ran for 20 months, yet not hold on to the first 5-1/2 years of the far more successful version, esp. when the daytime and syndie versions aired concurrently?
2. Why would RGP not keep the daytime version, yet keep "Scrabble" which aired on the same damn network for about the same amount of time?
BTW, because Mitt told you so is not going to fly as an answer.
Again, this doesn't mean Mitt is lying, but he's also going off a 20+ year-old memory, so he could easily have his facts off. But hey, if you want to take it all at face value and get defensive with us just because he's the one who worked on the show, while we're just trying to argue logic, be our guest. It only goes back to the advice you refuse to heed.
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I'll end this now, by saying that I'll take Mitt Dawson's word as the truth, and nothing but the truth.
So help you, Bill Cullen?
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Will the real Mitt Dawson please stand up?
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No question, it'd have to be "The Tonight Show" episodes. Way too many gems lost there.
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I'll end this now, by saying that I'll take Mitt Dawson's word as the truth, and nothing but the truth.
And I'll continue this now, by saying you're full of crap.
ETA: IIRC, Mitt actually is a member here, so I would call on him to either confirm or deny this.
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I don't buy it for a second
Neither do I. I really doubt producers would let years of episodes be wiped especially by '83. By then they realized the potential of cable.
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That was especially true in 1983, when The New $25,000 Pyramid was so titled because the old one was still airing in some markets.
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I don't buy it for a second
Neither do I. I really doubt producers would let years of episodes be wiped especially by '83. By then they realized the potential of cable.
Well, I gotta ask- where is Las Vegas Gambit then? Didn't they say most, if not all of that, was gone, and that only went off the air in '82?
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I don't buy it for a second
Neither do I. I really doubt producers would let years of episodes be wiped especially by '83. By then they realized the potential of cable.
Well, I gotta ask- where is Las Vegas Gambit then? Didn't they say most, if not all of that, was gone, and that only went off the air in '82?
According to rumor, I believe the practice stopped by 1981 or so.
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I'd like to see some more Trebek High Rollers unearthed, especially the original version. I've read about the format being different from the three-column one I'm used to, but I'd like to see it in action.
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If all of the 58-73 Concentrations were discovered in a salt mine or something, I'd be a happy camper.
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If all of the 58-73 Concentrations were discovered in a salt mine or something, I'd be a happy camper.
Painfully, it appears that plenty of Concentration episodes actually do exist in the Library of Congress, it's just that nobody wants to pay for converting them all from the original filmed kinescopes. And who knows, by this point they may be unplayable anyway.
But in the realm of the hypothetical, I'm right there with you. Carson and Paar would be terrific for the historical worthiness of it all, but selfishly, I'd vote for an equal stack of Mr. Blumenthal's rebuses.