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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: weaklink75 on May 22, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
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Semi-syndicated at first, as it will air in 7 markets owned by the same station group- I'm in one of them (Baltimore), so this will be interesting to see.. They say this show "reflects the audiences desire for new twists on the game show concept".. (http://"http://www.marketwatch.com/story/scripps-unveils-strategy-to-take-more-control-of-its-programming-2012-05-22")which is a big warning sign to me though..
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Interesting, reminds me a bit of Paranoia.
Also interesting with the trial run plan, wasn't the last show to try this was "100%"?
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Semi-syndicated at first, as it will air in 7 markets owned by the same station group- I'm in one of them (Baltimore), so this will be interesting to see.. They say this show "reflects the audiences desire for new twists on the game show concept".. (http://"http://www.marketwatch.com/story/scripps-unveils-strategy-to-take-more-control-of-its-programming-2012-05-22")which is a big warning sign to me though..
I'm actually quite intrigued by the idea of a quiz about current events as one hasn't been attempted since "The Challengers".
People playing from home? IDK, it worked putting them in cabs so why shouldn't it work?
I'm withholding judgement on this one, I think it has possibilities. Only issue might be the name, when I heard it I thought it was some sort of survey type show.
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Ooh, Cleveland is one of the markets initially getting this. It sounds like WEWS, who is owned by Scripps, might have their prime access hour replacements since the WoF/J! hour is moving to WOIO in the Fall.
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Interesting, reminds me a bit of Paranoia.
Also interesting with the trial run plan, wasn't the last show to try this was "100%"?
They tested Baggage out in a few markets last year (including Baltimore actually) before they decided it to syndicate it nationally...
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What pops into my head:
- This is probably being produced mostly for the benefit of the Scripps stations that are dropping Wheel\Jeopardy.
- Contestants playing from home? Um, OK.
- I, too, heard the title and thought "survey game".
I'll try to withhold judgement for a while. It won't be on in my market for the test run, but if it works maybe I'll see it in Fall 2013.
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What pops into my head:
- This is probably being produced mostly for the benefit of the Scripps stations that are dropping Wheel\Jeopardy.
It totally slipped my mind about that- they announced it a couple of years ago that they were moving here in Baltimore this fall (and it's always a bit weird here in that they aired J! at 7, then Wheel at 7:30- I don't know of many other places that did that when they had them back-to-back)...
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Yeah - here's an article about it. (http://"http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/print-edition/2012/03/02/scripps-crafting-programs-to-rival.html") To make a long story short, seven Scripps stations are attempting to drop Wheel\Jeopardy in favor of homegrown programming such as, well, this new show.
Like I said, there aren't any Scripps stations in my market, so I'll only get to see this when\if it launches nationally.
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That's about the dumbest move I've ever heard of -- Wheel and Jeopardy! are the 800-pound gorillas of syndicated games, and if I'm reading that article correctly it appears to be done so Scripps can control costs.
"reflects the audience desire for new twists on the game show concept"
It's now "new", it's Paranoia meets The Challengers. Which sounds quite good, actually. But using it to compete against Wheel and J! is suicidal.
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I'll be interested in more information as well....because from the aspect of current events, will it be a quiz on details of actual events, or a marketing opinion poll tool that may be used to determine news coverage in the guise of a game show ("What's your opinion on this story?")? Smart way to do some research.
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In this technology age, I could see this becoming a new way to do game shows. With Skype making teleconferencing available to the point of where news reporters even do liveshots with it, I can only imagine how much money this saves, as opposed to the expenses of renting a studio, hiring a production crew and host, and flying in contestants/providing accommodations. I imagine the cost of mounting such a product is far cheaper than Paranoia was 12 years ago...
The paragraph doesn't offer too much info, but it sounds like a spin on the late night call-in and lose shows from the mid-2000s, just more professionally produced.
I'm not in a Scripps market (though their name is on my alma mater's j-school), but I'm interested to see how this turns out. If anything, it's a promising new concept and another game for a somewhat lean genre.
/Then again, so was Merv Griffin's Crosswords
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This reminds me of "How Do You Like Your Eggs?"
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That's about the dumbest move I've ever heard of -- Wheel and Jeopardy! are the 800-pound gorillas of syndicated games,
...and, I'm sure, are expensive as hell for the stations to carry for that reason.
and if I'm reading that article correctly it appears to be done so Scripps can control costs.
Makes perfect sense to those of us with actual knowledge of broadcast economics.
But using it to compete against Wheel and J! is suicidal.
You assume they are interested in competing.
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That's about the dumbest move I've ever heard of -- Wheel and Jeopardy! are the 800-pound gorillas of syndicated games, and if I'm reading that article correctly it appears to be done so Scripps can control costs.
Know how I know you've never worked in TV? Those 800-pound gorillas are still expensive.
"reflects the audience desire for new twists on the game show concept"
It's now "new", it's Paranoia meets The Challengers.
Two shows that no one has ever heard of, outside of this forum. But, it doesn't say the concept is new. It says it's a new twist on the game show concept, similar to how Paranoia or Cash Cab merely took game show elements and gave them different settings.
The syndie bar is much lower than it was 20-25 years ago. A show can do just fine with a 2.0 rating, especially if the budget isn't over-the-top.
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That's about the dumbest move I've ever heard of -- Wheel and Jeopardy! are the 800-pound gorillas of syndicated games, and if I'm reading that article correctly it appears to be done so Scripps can control costs.
I want a Corvette. Unfortunately, my finances say I can afford a Mazda. Are you willing to put yourself (or in this case, your station) in potential financial hardship because you want the best?
/And there is nothing wrong with Mazdas.
//Love my 2012 Mazda6.
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That's about the dumbest move I've ever heard of -- Wheel and Jeopardy! are the 800-pound gorillas of syndicated games, and if I'm reading that article correctly it appears to be done so Scripps can control costs.
I can't take it anymore. Would you please post less? You have NO FLIPPING IDEA HOW TO RUN A TV STATION, let along comment on this.
This is a brilliant move for local stations. I applaud Scripps for this - no matter how good or bad the content is, they'll save (or make) a lot of money on this move, and set the stage for more local programming, which is critical for a local tv stations survival in this age.
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That's about the dumbest move I've ever heard of -- Wheel and Jeopardy! are the 800-pound gorillas of syndicated games, and if I'm reading that article correctly it appears to be done so Scripps can control costs.
I can't take it anymore. Would you please post less? You have NO FLIPPING IDEA HOW TO RUN A TV STATION, let along comment on this.
This is a brilliant move for local stations. I applaud Scripps for this - no matter how good or bad the content is, they'll save (or make) a lot of money on this move, and set the stage for more local programming, which is critical for a local tv stations survival in this age.
is that why my local cbs station has 8 FREAKING HOURS of local news everyday?/
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is that why my local cbs station has 8 FREAKING HOURS of local news everyday?/
yes
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If you can call it news....
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I've never understood why people get so up in arms about more news content or what counts as news, as if they'll really be sitting home for the entire 8 hours, or as if they don't have other channels to choose from.
Not only that, but with that much content, of course there's going to be more than the crime and violence of the day. I'm not a big fan of the celebrity fluff either, but I don't mind it in between all the doom and gloom and political pissing matches going on.
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Actually, I was thinking more of the moral panic stuff, like the recent "teens drinking hand sanitizer" stories.
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More like 8 hours of "Coming up....." and a minute about drinking hand sanitizer.
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Yep, in Cincinnati, Scripps didn't renew WOF/J due to programming costs. (Raycom/WXIX will air in the existing timeslots) If these replacement shows are going to be like the graphics from Scripps-Phoenix, they wiped graphic departments in each station - and they aren't working. Didn't consolidation kill radio?
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I'm assuming the stations that dropped WOF and J! in those areas have found new homes?
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I'm assuming the stations that dropped WOF and J! in those areas have found new homes?
I haven't heard of any angry mobs burning down the stations for dropping WoF and J! -- why would the stations have to move?
To answer the question you meant to ask, yes, I'd say it's a very good assumption that CBS/King World will be able to find new affiliates for WoF and J! by September, if they haven't already.
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To answer the question you meant to ask, yes, I'd say it's a very good assumption that CBS/King World will be able to find new affiliates for WoF and J! by September, if they haven't already.
I could have worded that better, but that's what I meant to ask.
Thanks, appreciated.
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I can't take it anymore. Would you please post less?
+1
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Don't know if it will effect the show, but executive producer Jim Paratore died suddenly... (http://"http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/r-i-p-jim-paratore/")
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Don't know if it will effect the show, but executive producer Jim Paratore died suddenly... (http://"http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/r-i-p-jim-paratore/")
Doubt it...but damn, that sucks.
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Don't know if it will effect the show, but executive producer Jim Paratore died suddenly... (http://"http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/r-i-p-jim-paratore/")
Doubt it...but damn, that sucks.
Considering the mark he left on the world of syndication, I'm a little surprised I'd never heard of the guy.
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Don't know if it will effect the show, but executive producer Jim Paratore died suddenly... (http://"http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/r-i-p-jim-paratore/")
Doubt it...but damn, that sucks.
Considering the mark he left on the world of syndication, I'm a little surprised I'd never heard of the guy.
I remember seeing his name at the end of shows, but unless I'm mistaken, the only game Telepictures did under his watch was Street Smarts. Everything else was talk, tabloid/celebrity, or court-based. Still sorry to hear about his death at a relatively young age.
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Bumping this up to let you know about a random telephone call I got yesterday afternoon.
It was from a contestant coordinator from "Let's Ask America." Seems she got my name from another show she worked on ("Who's Still Standing" -- never applied for that show, although I did interview Ben Bailey about the series for work), and asked if I wanted to be a contestant. After asking a few questions (Who you are? What do you do? What are your hobbies? Yes, that was pretty much what they asked), she asked if I could send them an online application.
If you're interested in applying for the show (they are doing Skype auditions), go to the following site...
http://www.letsaskamerica.tv/ (http://"http://www.letsaskamerica.tv/")
They also have a 30 second preview clip, which doesn't look promising, as well as a list of stations carrying the show and an application to nominate your dog to be the show's mascot (I wish I were making that up).
As for as the preview clip goes, it doesn't look good. The questions appear to be, for the most part, poll-related queries you can't really study for (one question was about something found on TMZ, which was co-founded by the show's recently-deceased executive producer, Jim Paratore). Host Kevin Periera hosted G4's "Attack of the Show" for eight years, departing earlier this year.
I'll probably submit an application, as I'd like to try the Skype audition (which is something more game shows need to do). However, I can't imagine risking my J! eligibility for this.
JD
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To answer the question you meant to ask, yes, I'd say it's a very good assumption that CBS/King World will be able to find new affiliates for WoF and J! by September, if they haven't already.
I'm in the ol' hometown this weekend and have seen a promo. Thus, I can now assure everyone that, in the Tampa-St. Petersburg market, WoF and J! will be airing on Gannett-owned CBS affiliate WTSP beginning September 17 at 7:00 and 7:30. The pair has had several stints on WTSP in the past.
You may now stop holding your breath.
(Currently in that hour are Inside Edition and WWTBAM. No, I don't know what's happening to them.)
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To answer the question you meant to ask, yes, I'd say it's a very good assumption that CBS/King World will be able to find new affiliates for WoF and J! by September, if they haven't already.
I'm in the ol' hometown this weekend and have seen a promo. Thus, I can now assure everyone that, in the Tampa-St. Petersburg market, WoF and J! will be airing on Gannett-owned CBS affiliate WTSP beginning September 17 at 7:00 and 7:30. The pair has had several stints on WTSP in the past.
You may now stop holding your breath.
(Currently in that hour are Inside Edition and WWTBAM. No, I don't know what's happening to them.)
Well, To Say the Least WTSP did previously carried Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune so in according to a previous ATGS post by Jim Ellwanger: WOF and J! have been affiliates on the Big 3 Networks, But only on Two Different Stations.
So Here's What WTSP did with Wheel & Jeopardy
September 19, 1983-June 7, 1985: Wheel of Fortune: 7:00 PM
September 9, 1985-June 6, 1986: Wheel of Fortune: 7:00 PM, Jeopardy: 11:30 AM (WTSP did NOT cleared All-Star Blitz with Peter Marshall)
September 8, 1986-June 16, 1989: Neither show picked up (WFLA did aired it while WWSB aired both shows during the period)
September 4, 1989-June 8, 2007: Wheel of Fortune: 7:00 PM, Jeopardy: 7:30 PM (WTSP continued on after it became CBS in December of 1994)
Meanwhile in San Francisco: KPIX will be the new home of Family Feud with Steve Harvey beginning September 17th at 7:00 PM (KPIX previously aired The Dawson Syndicated Version and the Combs CBS Version of the Feud back then.)
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Just auditioned over Skype. Even if I don't get picked, this is something I've wanted to do all my life, and I'm so thrilled. :D
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Apparently, Scripps stations are happy with the decision. The show is holding its own pretty well.
SOURCE: http://www.tvnewsche...out-top-syndies (http://\"http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/63511/scripps-stations-survive-without-top-syndies\")
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Meanwhile in San Francisco: KPIX will be the new home of Family Feud with Steve Harvey beginning September 17th at 7:00 PM (KPIX previously aired The Dawson Syndicated Version and the Combs CBS Version of the Feud back then.)
When did KPIX air Dawson syndicated Feud? I know Family Feud PM was either on KRON or KGO (it may have been on both).
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Wasn't KRON an O&O? Would have had to be on there if it was because NBC bought the original syndicated Feud for the O&Os.
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Wasn't KRON an O&O?
They were not -- they were, as the call letters imply, owned by the San Francisco Chronicle; after Hearst took over the Chronicle, KRON was sold off to Young Broadcasting following a bidding war that NBC lost.