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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: weaklink75 on January 13, 2012, 06:44:25 PM
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Interesting article I thought...
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/40938/rembert-explains-the-80s-double-dare
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Couldn't get through it. I'm surprised the internet has enough bandwidth for this many observations.
-Jason
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Couldn't get through it. I'm surprised the internet has enough bandwidth for this many observations.
Couldn't get through the episode itself or the commentary?
That's the downside of the internet. Everyone thinks they're special and have worthwhile opinions. Many times they are incorrect.
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Couldn't get through it. I'm surprised the internet has enough bandwidth for this many observations
Agreed. I made it through about a third of it, and got bored with it.
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I was in my late 20's when I first saw "Double Dare," and it wasn't interesting when it was new. I never really enjoyed those Nick game shows, with the exception of "Figure it Out"
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Okay...I'll admit, the concept was interesting, and I checked a few of the other shows he reviewed (in the back of my mind, I kicked him off my lawn for having never seen Alf*).
While I liked the concept of mocking shows from either before his time or infancy, the timecodes for everything turned it into a TL;DR (or Christian's awesome gif). A Cliff's Notes blog with semi-snarky commentary would've worked just fine IMO.
*/I also concur on just how bad Alf really was
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*/I also concur on just how bad Alf really was
I don't know you any longer. And get off my snow-covered lawn ;-)
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There was a marvelous skit on SNL last night poking fun at the idea that because the internet makes it possible for you to do things, you are automatically an expert (in your own mind) at doing those things. Rembert thinks he's an entertaining critic.
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There was a marvelous skit on SNL last night
There was? And I missed it? I had been waiting so long.
I was there for the eighties. I fondly remember the things I enjoyed, and I laugh at the Crystal Pepsi, Pogs and slap bracelets and the like that moved to the dustbin of history. I enjoy bantering with some of my friends from the Forum here about how Double Dare was not only a really well crafted balance of game and show, but it served the audience of the time. This guy isn't even bothering to dig any deeper than "hey, I like that they do the cold open," and he's no more of an "expert" on his specialist subject than anyone else who had cable service back then.
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and I laugh at the Crystal Pepsi,
ALL of you get off my lawn. I actively miss Crystal Pepsi. That stuff was *great*.
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ALL of you get off my lawn. I actively miss Crystal Pepsi. That stuff was *great*.
At the time of its introduction, I was living in the test market for Crystal Pepsi. It was available only in cans.
// Much more of a Crystal Gravy fan
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At the time of its introduction, I was living in the test market for Crystal Pepsi. It was available only in cans.
Well, no wonder it failed. You'd think they would have the courtesy to serve it to you directly at the table.
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wha?
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and I laugh at the Crystal Pepsi,
ALL of you get off my lawn. I actively miss Crystal Pepsi. That stuff was *great*.
But good god Diet Crystal Pepsi sucked. I remember them handing out samples at the grocery store I worked at back then - it sure wasn't around long.
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and I laugh at the Crystal Pepsi,
ALL of you get off my lawn. I actively miss Crystal Pepsi. That stuff was *great*.
But good god Diet Crystal Pepsi sucked. I remember them handing out samples at the grocery store I worked at back then - it sure wasn't around long.
I have a full, unopened bottle of Diet Crystal Pepsi in my home right now.
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*/I also concur on just how bad Alf really was
The sitcom or the Saturday Morning Cartoon?
/Alf did a better job at hosting Hollywood Squares than John Davidson, IMHO.
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I have a full, unopened bottle of Diet Crystal Pepsi in my home right now.
I don't remember ever having Crystal Pepsi, but I found an empty bottle of it in the garage before we moved.
Also found a whole bunch of empty Pepsi Blue cans. That was the only Pepsi product I found drinkable after I became a diehard Coke drinker.
And damn, do I miss Josta.
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Double Dare was just so good for this 8-year old in 1989. Maybe because the TV only got 30 cable channels, maybe because I was always a game show fan, maybe because my brother (4 years younger) and I watched a poopton of Nickelodeon.
I remember Family Double Dare the most and always thought the regular version was superior.
That show is such a snapshot in time. It would never keep kids' attentions nowadays, with things like Spongebob and Dora and get the heck off my lawn too.
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It would never keep kids' attentions nowadays
Why do you think that is? Not so much challenging you as I am genuinely curious. I think the show would be harder to sell as-is because the powers that be would have that attitude going in, with no cause for it. I'm wondering where the best evidence is that Double Dare wouldn't work for kids today. And moreover, why a lot of these formats need drastic changes for the audiences' sake, who don't get their collective chance to weigh in until the show is put on the air, revisions and all.
-Jason
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If Brainsurge can get a second batch of episodes, I see no reason why DD couldn't.
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I think kids like cartoons. The game shows on Nick were a means to an end. They were cheap to produce and made enough for the network so they could afford to branch out into cartoon production, which are pretty much timeless.
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Agree - Crystal Pepsi was lame. I still have a Josta can, t-shirt and promo stickers. I miss it, too..but it probably would have killed me. The whistling sound in my ears after the third can was probably my 30-second warning before a complete blood pressure blowout.:-) But the taste was also killer.
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The game shows on Nick were a means to an end.
Of course they were. The end was ratings. Derp.
3/10.
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The game shows on Nick were a means to an end.
Of course they were. The end was ratings. Derp.
3/10.
Square Pants is on seven times a day on Nick. How many game shows are on Nick currently?
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It would never keep kids' attentions nowadays
I wholeheartedly disagree. Double Dare is a near perfect balance of questions and stunts, IMO, and what self respecting 9 year old wouldn't want to catch pies in a pair of clown pants?
Air some new episodes of 2-on-2 Double Dare and Legends of the Hidden Temple- my bet is that they would blow Brainsurge (which has its flaws, albeit few) out of the water.
I think kids like cartoons. The game shows on Nick were a means to an end. They were cheap to produce and made enough for the network so they could afford to branch out into cartoon production, which are pretty much timeless.
So you're telling me that game shows, which have historically done well as a whole on the network (I heard somewhere that Family Double Dare was greenlit for 93-94), are cheap to produce and generally make money? Sounds good to me.
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and what self respecting 9 year old wouldn't want to catch pies in a pair of clown pants?
There's a statement you don't see every day.
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I remember Family Double Dare the most and always thought the regular version was superior.
As someone who hit the sweet spot, I thought so too. It felt like there was more gameplay back in the good ol' days, and the stunts actually required agility or dexterity as opposed to running around and turning over vats of gunk. I've talked about the good points of the show with several people on the boards, and the show got so much right: the game play that never required a player to give a wrong answer, the easy going and silly humor of the host, an end game that always had tension and excitement, The game was terrific and the show parts were on point.
I think the show would be harder to sell as-is because the powers that be would have that attitude going in, with no cause for it.
I'll call opposite here: if Endurance could run for six series then why couldn't Double Dare work. I wonder if inertia has more to do with apathy or laziness.
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That show is such a snapshot in time. It would never keep kids' attentions nowadays, with things like Spongebob and Dora and get the heck off my lawn too.
I'm 24 and I wish those damn SpongeBob fans would get off my lawn.
As an aside, the day SpongeBob debuted was a sad day for me at the time — it was the day that I realized that it was possible for Nickelodeon to make shows I disliked. (Cartoons at least — I don't remember watching much of their live action stuff, nor any of the game shows save Legends of the Hidden Temple. I still haven't seen a second of Double Dare.) I mean, I even liked The Brothers Flub for crying out loud, and nobody else even REMEMBERS that one.
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It would never keep kids' attentions nowadays
I wholeheartedly disagree. Double Dare is a near perfect balance of questions and stunts, IMO, and what self respecting 9 year old wouldn't want to catch pies in a pair of clown pants?
Air some new episodes of 2-on-2 Double Dare and Legends of the Hidden Temple- my bet is that they would blow Brainsurge (which has its flaws, albeit few) out of the water.
I think kids like cartoons. The game shows on Nick were a means to an end. They were cheap to produce and made enough for the network so they could afford to branch out into cartoon production, which are pretty much timeless.
So you're telling me that game shows, which have historically done well as a whole on the network (I heard somewhere that Family Double Dare was greenlit for 93-94), are cheap to produce and generally make money? Sounds good to me.
But not as much money as repeating cartoons over and over and over and over. I'll put it another way. Double Dare looks like it's from the late 80's-early 90's and really could not be presented as prime viewing fare. Sponge Bob is repeatable forever. But in order to get it going, it takes some investment seed money. The success of the inexpensive game shows provided the money to fund the cartoons, which over time make more money as new generations discover the shows.
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That show is such a snapshot in time. It would never keep kids' attentions nowadays, with things like Spongebob and Dora and get the heck off my lawn too.
I'm 24 and I wish those damn SpongeBob fans would get off my lawn.
Pfft, age. My uncle is almost 40 years your senior, he's a SpongeBob fan, and he's not getting off your lawn without a police request.
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I'm 24 and I wish those damn SpongeBob fans would get off my lawn.
As an aside, the day SpongeBob debuted was a sad day for me at the time — it was the day that I realized that it was possible for Nickelodeon to make shows I disliked.
I'm pretty sure I made that conclusion before that fateful day in 1999.
/I'm ambivalent towards SpongeBob
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That show is such a snapshot in time. It would never keep kids' attentions nowadays, with things like Spongebob and Dora and get the heck off my lawn too.
I'm 24 and I wish those damn SpongeBob fans would get off my lawn.
Pfft, age. My uncle is almost 40 years your senior, he's a SpongeBob fan, and he's not getting off your lawn without a police request.
Fair enough. I shall promptly work on getting one. :D
(The bronies can stay, though.)