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Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: GiraffeBoy on December 04, 2011, 12:44:59 PM
Stick that stamp on a TPiR ticket request envelope - extra cool!

From fiticeleb.com (http://"http://www.fitceleb.com/node/10507")

Yahoo! News (http://"http://news.yahoo.com/photos/peta-goes-postal-bob-barker-20111129-130204-396.html")

--Charlie
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 04, 2011, 12:58:24 PM
He doesn't deserve it.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: MikeK on December 04, 2011, 01:04:30 PM
TPiR models won't buy it.  Most of them have already touched and licked Barker.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: NickS on December 04, 2011, 01:14:18 PM
RTFA, looks like there's been some skin that's been put through its paces.

And then there's the pics of Barker.

He doesn't deserve it.

How so?  In this context it makes complete sense.  Not that I'm the biggest PeTA fan - but that's not the issue here.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 04, 2011, 01:22:55 PM
It's not the PETA issue, it's the fact that he's vetoed so many episodes of TPIR, especially the ones from when his era of the show was in its prime. How can I support a man who's done such a beyond horrific thing?
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: chad1m on December 04, 2011, 01:24:40 PM
It's not the PETA issue, it's the fact that he's murdered so many people, especially the ones from when his era of the show was in its prime. How can I support a man who's done such a beyond horrific thing?
Oh, I'm sorry. That's what you should have said to warrant a proper use of the word "horrific."
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on December 04, 2011, 01:43:50 PM
It's not the PETA issue, it's the fact that he's vetoed so many episodes of TPIR, especially the ones from when his era of the show was in its prime. How can I support a man who's done such a beyond horrific thing?
With all the questionable things Barker's done over the years, this is the one you choose to label "beyond horrific?"

Get a clue.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: clemon79 on December 04, 2011, 01:48:08 PM
Oh, I'm sorry. That's what you should have said to warrant a proper use of the word "horrific."
Q to the F to the motherfarking T.

/I'd have been down with this about three months ago, back when the rule was that you had to be dead first
//Not sure Pam Anderson is who Postmaster Donahoe had in mind (http://"http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/26/national/main20111543.shtml")
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 04, 2011, 01:53:07 PM
beyond horrific
Clearly, someone is NOT moving on to my bonus round.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: MyronMMeyer on December 04, 2011, 04:30:26 PM
It's bugging the hell out of me that this is being reported as if these were "real" stamps being issued by the Postal Service. PETA is just ordering a bunch of sheets from stamps.com with famous vegetarians on them. You can go there and order valid personalized stamps with pretty much anything you want on them. I got a bunch with my neighbor's dog on them for his Christmas present about 5 years ago.

Here's (http://"http://rapfix.mtv.com/2011/12/01/russell-simmons-appears-on-peta-postage-stamps/") an article about the one with Russel Simmons on it that has a better look at what kind of stamp it is.

-M
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: gameshowcrazy on December 04, 2011, 06:01:48 PM
It's bugging the hell out of me that this is being reported as if these were "real" stamps being issued by the Postal Service. PETA is just ordering a bunch of sheets from stamps.com with famous vegetarians on them. You can go there and order valid personalized stamps with pretty much anything you want on them. I got a bunch with my neighbor's dog on them for his Christmas present about 5 years ago.

Here's (http://"http://rapfix.mtv.com/2011/12/01/russell-simmons-appears-on-peta-postage-stamps/") an article about the one with Russel Simmons on it that has a better look at what kind of stamp it is.

-M
When these personalized stamps first came out, The Smoking Gun decided to see what they could get away with, and they got Hitler on a stamp.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: bscripps on December 04, 2011, 07:45:11 PM
It's bugging the hell out of me that this is being reported as if these were "real" stamps being issued by the Postal Service. PETA is just ordering a bunch of sheets from stamps.com with famous vegetarians on them. You can go there and order valid personalized stamps with pretty much anything you want on them. I got a bunch with my neighbor's dog on them for his Christmas present about 5 years ago.
When these personalized stamps first came out, The Smoking Gun decided to see what they could get away with, and they got Hitler on a stamp.
Not quite. (http://"http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/funny/stamps-approval")  

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Monica Lewinsky's blue dress, Linda Tripp, Slobodan Milosevic, Jimmy Hoffa, Nicolae Ceaucescu, NJ Gov. James McGreevey and friend, and Ted Kaczynski, for those keeping score at home in 2004.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: clemon79 on December 04, 2011, 09:18:04 PM
It's bugging the hell out of me that this is being reported as if these were "real" stamps being issued by the Postal Service. PETA is just ordering a bunch of sheets from stamps.com with famous vegetarians on them.
Now, see, I was wondering about that when I looked at them really close. That actually makes a TON more since considering that the article I linked was barely ten weeks old, and you'd think there would be a fair amount more lag time before a decree like that and the first official stamps.

I shall go out of my way to be a Person Eating a Tasty Animal tomorrow in their honor.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: PYLdude on December 04, 2011, 09:26:14 PM
It's not the PETA issue, it's the fact that he's vetoed so many episodes of TPIR, especially the ones from when his era of the show was in its prime. How can I support a man who's done such a beyond horrific thing?

Now see, Joe? THIS is the epitome of epic fail.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: J.R. on December 05, 2011, 04:47:25 AM
Now see, Joe? THIS is the epitome of epic fail.
You win, sir. :-)

Now pass me the aspirin...
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Joe Mello on December 05, 2011, 08:45:11 PM
I shall go out of my way to be a Person Eating a Tasty Animal tomorrow in their honor.
I think I'll buy a book of stamps with the Epic Meal Time (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xc5wIpUenQ") Guys just so I can send mail to PeTA
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Otm Shank on December 09, 2011, 12:35:43 AM
Images of living persons cannot be on USPS-issued postage stamps.

Debate the use of "living" as it applies to Barker, if you must. Or "person," for that matter.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Flerbert419 on December 09, 2011, 12:55:44 AM
Images of living persons cannot be on USPS-issued postage stamps.
This is no longer the case (http://"http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/us/postal-service-will-begin-honoring-living-people-on-stamps.html"), but it has yet to happen.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: clemon79 on December 09, 2011, 12:58:11 AM
Images of living persons cannot be on USPS-issued postage stamps.
For the second time in this thread I shall link to this article (http://"http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/26/national/main20111543.shtml"), which says otherwise.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on December 09, 2011, 01:02:37 AM
Images of living persons cannot be on USPS-issued postage stamps.
For the second time in this thread I shall link to this article (http://"http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/26/national/main20111543.shtml"), which says otherwise.
I, for one, am saddened that 69 freakin' percent of the people answering the survey think Lady freakin' Gaga should be the one to be honored over people such as Neil Armstrong or Steve Jobs.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 09, 2011, 01:05:46 AM
Okay, I want a straight answer, right now.

Why are you guys criticizing me for bashing Barker? You think all the bad stuff said about him is lies? You really don't think he's trying to make sure Holly Hallstrom never existed, or remove the existence of fur coats as prizes, or that he treated Rod Roddy like shite, and that Rod died an angry man because of him?
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: TLEberle on December 09, 2011, 01:10:16 AM
Why are you guys criticizing me for bashing Barker?
Because you are missing the point. Bob Barker is being honored for his animal rights work. That is it, that is all. You are being criticized because you cannot get that through your head. That is it, that is all.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: PYLdude on December 09, 2011, 01:12:31 AM
Okay, I want a straight answer, right now.

Why are you guys criticizing me for bashing Barker? You think all the bad stuff said about him is lies? You really don't think he's trying to make sure Holly Hallstrom never existed, or remove the existence of fur coats as prizes, or that he treated Rod Roddy like shite, and that Rod died an angry man because of him?

Whatever I think about him, I'm certainly not going to use a term better suited for the 9/11 attacks or Hurricane Katrina, among other things, to criticize him over what amounts to a trivial bit of information.

I mean, HE'S BEING PUT ON A STAMP. Since when is putting someone on a stamp a horrific incident?
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: BrandonFG on December 09, 2011, 01:14:16 AM
Okay, I wanna a straight answer, right now.

Why are you guys criticizing me for bashing Barker? You think all the bad stuff said about him is lies? You really don't think he's trying to make sure Holly Hallstrom never existed, or remove the existence of fur coats as prizes, or that he treated Rod Roddy like shite, and that Rod died an angry man because of him?
I don't think it's your bashing of Barker, as much as your fur coat veto as an example of why he shouldn't be honored.

The fact that that was the best example you could come up with, not the sexual harassment lawsuits, or the fact that he simply comes across as an evil old man, prolly doesn't help. Forbidding fur coat episodes from airing is hardly horrific, esp. when Barker is known for being an animal rights activist.

Just my $0.02
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: clemon79 on December 09, 2011, 01:18:20 AM
or Steve Jobs.
Know how I know you haven't read the Walter Issacson biography?

Seriously, my mindset going into it has been a genuine effort to understand the "cult of Apple" and to figure out why the Apple fanb0i contingent were holding candlelight vigils and such when he kicked it, considering that in the last decade or so of his life, during the whole iPod era, he was really a pretty awful person. Maybe I missed something early in his career. I'm more than willing to be convinced.

Nope. According to my Fire I'm 59% in, he's already returned to Apple and they've shipped a few iPod models and opened the iTunes store, and I have yet to come across one single shred of evidence to indicate that he's anything but an utter asshole. Brilliant businessman, no question. But an utter asshole.

There's a fellow named Trump in New York who fits that exact same description. Let's give him a stamp when he croaks, too, whaddaya say?

(There's still 41% to go, I freely allow that. But I'm also pretty familiar with the history from this point forward. That said, my mind is still open. But, man. I absolutely recommend the book, though. Fascinating read.)
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: clemon79 on December 09, 2011, 01:21:53 AM
Okay, I want a straight answer, right now.
You are in a position to demand precisely nothing.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on December 09, 2011, 01:24:19 AM
There's a fellow named Trump in New York who fits that exact same description. Let's give him a stamp when he croaks, too, whaddaya say?
You're talking to someone who has bought PC products his entire life and has an MP3 player that isn't an Ipod.

I don't see where I stated that Trump shouldn't be honored.  Nor do I see where I said that Jobs wasn't an asshole.  On the flip side, some of his companies' inventions (Such as the Ipod) have changed American culture. But for people to vote some pop tart (at best) as being most worthy?  C'mon.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: clemon79 on December 09, 2011, 01:42:14 AM
You're talking to someone who has bought PC products his entire life and has an MP3 player that isn't an Ipod.
And you're talking to someone who works for the competition and yet still carries an iTouch because it's far and away the best of breed.

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I don't see where I stated that Trump shouldn't be honored.  Nor do I see where I said that Jobs wasn't an asshole.
I will cheerfully and apologetically back down here...I thought you picked Jobs' name out of the blue and did not realize he was part of the sidebar poll.

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On the flip side, some of his companies' inventions (Such as the Ipod) have changed American culture.
While I agree with that statement, I hesitate to call it an "invention," seeing as the iPod was not even remotely close to being the first MP3 player on the market. But otherwise, sure, no question. And I do applaud you for crediting it to the company as opposed to him personally.

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But for people to vote some pop tart (at best) as being most worthy?  C'mon.
I learned several years ago not to get too wound up in online anonymous unchecked poll results. I invite you to join me in the peace and quiet. First Dr Pepper is on me.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: BrandonFG on December 09, 2011, 01:45:38 AM
I don't see where I stated that Trump shouldn't be honored.
Don't think Chris was implying that; he was just making a comparison about how both are great businessmen, but have serious egos (or at least Trump as far as I know). I haven't read Isaacson's book, but from what I have read or heard, Jobs loved picking volatile arguments in his first stint at Apple. Doesn't necessarily make him an asshole, but it couldn't have made him easy to work with.

And you and I see eye to eye on Gaga. Take away the goofy costumes and she's another forgettable cookie-cutter pop singer.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: chad1m on December 09, 2011, 01:52:02 AM
Take away the goofy costumes and she's another forgettable cookie-cutter pop singer.
I respectfully invite you to view this (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPAmDULCVrU"), this (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcLtmrWC4Xc") or this (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ7BQuoRmbs") to see what talent she does indeed have in more stripped down environments. :)

/These discussions and debates are much more interesting than anything gameshowlover has presented
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: J.R. on December 09, 2011, 02:07:10 AM
While I agree with that statement, I hesitate to call it an "invention," seeing as the iPod was not even remotely close to being the first MP3 player on the market. But otherwise, sure, no question. And I do applaud you for crediting it to the company as opposed to him personally.
Mark Odor and Chris Lemon agree on something?

Now THIS is a Christmas Miracle.

;-) ;-)
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: BrandonFG on December 09, 2011, 02:17:24 AM
Take away the goofy costumes and she's another forgettable cookie-cutter pop singer.
I respectfully invite you to view this (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPAmDULCVrU"), this (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcLtmrWC4Xc") or this (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ7BQuoRmbs") to see what talent she does indeed have in more stripped down environments. :)
I should've prefaced my statement by saying I'm aware she's a good singer and that I like that she writes her own stuff. The costumes are still a bit of a turnoff IMO, but whatever works for her.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: PYLdude on December 09, 2011, 03:41:13 AM
While I agree with that statement, I hesitate to call it an "invention," seeing as the iPod was not even remotely close to being the first MP3 player on the market. But otherwise, sure, no question. And I do applaud you for crediting it to the company as opposed to him personally.
Mark Odor and Chris Lemon agree on something?

Now THIS is a Christmas Miracle.

;-) ;-)

Watch it Joe, your head might asplode.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: MyronMMeyer on December 09, 2011, 09:45:42 AM
Images of living persons cannot be on USPS-issued postage stamps.

Debate the use of "living" as it applies to Barker, if you must. Or "person," for that matter.

Or "cannot".

I believe this (http://"http://www.iwojima.com/stamps/index.htm") was the first time. It has happened a number of times since. Here (http://"http://thailogolover.blogspot.com/2011/09/stamp-september11-2001.html") is a more recent example. See if you can figure out what other thing the two stamps have in common.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: TimK2003 on December 10, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Images of living persons cannot be on USPS-issued postage stamps.

Debate the use of "living" as it applies to Barker, if you must. Or "person," for that matter.

Or "cannot".

I believe this (http://"http://www.iwojima.com/stamps/index.htm") was the first time. It has happened a number of times since. Here (http://"http://thailogolover.blogspot.com/2011/09/stamp-september11-2001.html") is a more recent example. See if you can figure out what other thing the two stamps have in common.


The way I read the "living person" definition for USPS-issued stamps is that if the stamp is actually acknowledging the person on the stamp by name, they must be deceased.  In the case of the "Heroes" stamp, and other stamps denoting specific events, places or organizations, they can use a living person's likeness, but cannot identify them by name.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: MyronMMeyer on December 12, 2011, 06:07:31 PM
The way I read the "living person" definition for USPS-issued stamps is that if the stamp is actually acknowledging the person on the stamp by name, they must be deceased.  In the case of the "Heroes" stamp, and other stamps denoting specific events, places or organizations, they can use a living person's likeness, but cannot identify them by name.

And vice (http://"http://i.colnect.net/images/f/201/023/Century---1990--s-Sitcom-Sensation-Seinfeld.jpg") versa (http://"http://cdn1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/206/463/654/classic-tv-the-cosby-show-33-mint-stamp-2c7bf.jpg").
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: Joe Mello on December 12, 2011, 06:35:57 PM
Seriously, my mindset going into it has been a genuine effort to understand the "cult of Apple" and to figure out why the Apple fanb0i contingent were holding candlelight vigils and such when he kicked it, considering that in the last decade or so of his life, during the whole iPod era, he was really a pretty awful person.

...

Brilliant businessman
You may have answered your own question.

I'm also open to the idea that in order to do some of the things Jobs wanted to do, being an asshole was practically a job requirement.
Title: Bob Barker on a postage stamp
Post by: clemon79 on December 12, 2011, 06:42:33 PM
Brilliant businessman
You may have answered your own question.
Yes, but to me that isn't a sufficient condition to merit nationwide candlelight vigils.

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I'm also open to the idea that in order to do some of the things Jobs wanted to do, being an asshole was practically a job requirement.
Perhaps. There are a lot of anecdotes related in the book that point out assholery where it wasn't neessary in the least, though.