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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: brianhenke on September 03, 2011, 03:04:27 PM
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The Ohio Lottery is selling a $5 Wheel of Fortune lottery game. I heard Vanna on a radio commercial several days ago. The ad said that there will be a Lottery Winners week on the show this season.
Any other states with a Wheel lottery game?
Brian
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Yep, New Jersey's got it too. I'm sure plenty of other states will have their own version as well.
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New York has a "Wheel" lottery game as well.
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Since I have the Ohio Lottery's WoF scratcher pamphlet handy, here's what it says...
"Enter to win a chance to play a lottery players-only game* of WHEEL OF FORTUNE in Hollywood and a chance to win up to $1 MILLION!"
* Lottery players-only game. Not for broadcast.
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Illinois has the exact same thing too.
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Virginia had one in the late-90s...
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Since I have the Ohio Lottery's WoF scratcher pamphlet handy, here's what it says...
"Enter to win a chance to play a lottery players-only game* of WHEEL OF FORTUNE in Hollywood and a chance to win up to $1 MILLION!"
* Lottery players-only game. Not for broadcast.
This is also the language on the South Dakota ticket. I've got one entry in, thanks to my Dad.
-M
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Same thing is starting this week here in Florida.
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The Colorado Lottery (http://"http://www.coloradolottery.com/GAMES/SCRATCH/DRAWING-DETAILS/Wheel-of-Fortune/&did=214&pid=70") has anted in for a $5 ticket.
Looks like it will be a simple premise: 20 chances to match 4 winning numbers; non-winning tickets are eligible for the WOF Grand-Prize drawing.
Not really worth my dead Lincolns, but it will be definitely "crack" for those who are faithful Wheel Watchers.
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I realize that this is non-broadcast, but I would be curious to know if they record this for the players as a 'keepsake'.
Also, didn't Syndie Deal do this but the eps actually aired?
R.
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New Jersey actually had a couple from what I remember. One was filling in puzzles and the other (most recent) was matching letters.
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Perhaps. But DOND isn't really a skill-based game, so they can get away with that.
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North Carolina has this scratch-off game, too. My question would be: Having already been a contestant on Wheel of Fortune (in Jan. 1998), would I be eligible to play this not-for-broadcast game, if I had bought a ticket and won a chance to compete?
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North Carolina has this scratch-off game, too. My question would be: Having already been a contestant on Wheel of Fortune (in Jan. 1998), would I be eligible to play this not-for-broadcast game, if I had bought a ticket and won a chance to compete?
Since the lone connection with Sony and/or Wheel Of Fortune is that the lottery is borrowing their production facilities for the special game, I see not one reason why not.
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MarioGS has a topic on the WOFL Forum here (http://"http://wheeloffortunelovers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=spin&action=display&thread=2080"). Stupidly, participating in the not-for-broadcast game counts as your once-in-a-lifetime appearance on Wheel.
North Carolina has this scratch-off game, too. My question would be: Having already been a contestant on Wheel of Fortune (in Jan. 1998), would I be eligible to play this not-for-broadcast game, if I had bought a ticket and won a chance to compete?
Since the lone connection with Sony and/or Wheel Of Fortune is that the lottery is borrowing their production facilities for the special game, I see not one reason why not.
Following from the "winning makes you ineligible for the TV show" statement, and admittedly speaking ex-rectum, I would think that those who have already been on the show are ineligible to play the Lottery Winners game.
The whole idea of making unaired episode(s) and then giving your players a virtual kick to the crotch (strict guidelines against uploading online, banning them from being a contestant on the TV show) is really, really stupid.
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speaking ex-rectum
You? No way.
The whole idea of making unaired episode(s) and then giving your players a virtual kick to the crotch (strict guidelines against uploading online, banning them from being a contestant on the TV show) is really, really stupid.
The United Nations must know about this injustice to humanity.
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Following from the "winning makes you ineligible for the TV show" statement, and admittedly speaking ex-rectum,
Lord knows it's never stopped you before.
I would think that those who have already been on the show are ineligible to play the Lottery Winners game.
If by that you mean "ineligible to be in the random drawing among trip winners to play the game", perhaps, but I wonder if that's legal if they don't spell it out in the official rules.
Certainly the Lottery is happy to separate the fools from their money either way.
The whole idea of making unaired episode(s) and then giving your players a virtual kick to the crotch (strict guidelines against uploading online, banning them from being a contestant on the TV show) is really, really stupid.
There's a really, really easy solution to this problem: Don't buy a ticket.
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The whole idea of making unaired episode(s) and then giving your players a virtual kick to the crotch (strict guidelines against uploading online, banning them from being a contestant on the TV show) is really, really stupid.
For some reason, you can't seem to let this go, as if Sony's being a dick by taking down episodes. We're not talking Sajak episodes from 1984; these are recent episodes from the last season being uploaded to Youtube. If you don't understand what that's a problem for Sony, I don't know what to say.
As for the lottery game, you left out this quote from the Wheel forum:
The game will play just like on television; however,
prizing will not include trips. Players will compete for cash and
vehicles.
So it's not like you don't play for anything...yes, it's a novelty game that won't air. But if I win a trip to L.A., and get to win some money or even a car, I'll have the time of my life doing it, and not give two brown nuggets about a) whether or not my show goes on TV, or b) being ineligible to play the real game. I'm sure the lottery winners will feel the same way. It's a fair rule, esp. since you still play for cash and/or cars. I'd love to give it a shot myself, but I'm thinking my working for a Wheel affiliate still makes me ineligible. Sucks, but oh well.
You like to turn everything into some grand conspiracy against game show fans, and it's really not like that. At all.
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It's a fair rule, esp. since you still play for cash and/or cars.
I question that the rule is fair, but it is the rule. I don't see why one has to do with the other, but on the other hand I probably have a better chance of playing Wheel of Fortune on TV for money via a lottery than getting picked for the show. So there's that.
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This may be the only way for non-telegenic, dull or old people to play the game on the set of WOF.
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Looks like Arizona's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgHHkpb-MlE) in on it, too.
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The whole idea of making unaired episode(s) and then giving your players a virtual kick to the crotch (strict guidelines against uploading online, banning them from being a contestant on the TV show) is really, really stupid.
For some reason, you can't seem to let this go, as if Sony's being a dick by taking down ... recent episodes from the last season being uploaded to Youtube. If you don't understand what that's a problem for Sony, I don't know what to say.
I understand why it's a problem for Sony, but I wasn't referring to them -- I was talking about the lottery's rule against uploading an episode which would otherwise go unaired. Based on their wording, it seems like even they'll pass on uploading them by legit resources, which makes me wonder why these won't be aired.
You like to turn everything into some grand conspiracy against game show fans, and it's really not like that. At all.
No conspiracy here, sir -- I fully understand that 1) playing on the Lottery Winners episodes make you ineligible for the TV show and 2) said episodes are expressly said to remain unaired with "strict guidelines" placed on their contestants regarding the sharing of information online. Like Travis, I understand but still question whether #1 is fair.
This may be the only way for non-telegenic, dull or old people to play the game on the set of WOF.
Old people can be fun to watch, but I can't remember the last time one was on the show.
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I'd love to give it a shot myself, but I'm thinking my working for a Wheel affiliate still makes me ineligible. Sucks, but oh well.
I would think that if the lottery shows will never be televised, and that the lottery draws for players to go to Los Angeles is completely random, then I see no reason why you would be ineligible. But then again, this is Sony (co-owner/operator of GSN) we're talking about.
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I understand why it's a problem for Sony, but I wasn't referring to them -- I was talking about the lottery's rule against uploading an episode which would otherwise go unaired. Based on their wording, it seems like even they'll pass on uploading them by legit resources, which makes me wonder why these won't be aired.
That rule may well have originated from Sony, not from the lottery -- I can see why they wouldn't want the "fake" lottery winner shows confused with "legitimate" WoF episodes.
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Based on their wording, it seems like even they'll pass on uploading them by legit resources,
Please define "legit resource." And please do so with the understanding that THE CONTESTANT HAS NO OWNERSHIP OF THE CONTENT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
which makes me wonder why these won't be aired.
Yeah, but you don't do conspiracies.
Really, it makes a bit of sense when you realize that the contestants for these "shows" are going to be selected purely by lot, and therefore the possibility of train-wreck television is high. And I'm guessing Sony does not want a train-wreck mistaken for the product they produce for air.
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I understand why it's a problem for Sony, but I wasn't referring to them -- I was talking about the lottery's rule against uploading an episode which would otherwise go unaired. Based on their wording, it seems like even they'll pass on uploading them by legit resources, which makes me wonder why these won't be aired.
Because the Illuminati is threatening riots if Sony airs a show featuring only lottery winners.
Seriously: I don't see what the tragedy is. It's one episode out of 200 or so that's not going to air. Big deal. You'll live, trust me.
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Benfield:
Two choices. You can have $100,000; or you can have a video uploaded of you looking like a ninny on Youtube. Which do you choose?
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which makes me wonder why these won't be aired.
Have you ever seen episodes of The Big Spin when it was just schmo after schmo walking up, talking to the host, grabbing a peg and having a go? It was dull TV then, it is dull TV now. Somewhere, I saw a clip of Todd Newton hosting a Showcase Showdown deal for a TPIR lottery game. It was dull. Why do you care so much to watch proceedings that have nary a spark to them.
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Based on their wording, it seems like even they'll pass on uploading them by legit resources,
Please define "legit resource." And please do so with the understanding that THE CONTESTANT HAS NO OWNERSHIP OF THE CONTENT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I was referring to the lottery, or Sony, placing the episode(s) in question through an official account on Hulu, Dailymotion, YouTube, wheeloffortune.com, etc.
Really, it makes a bit of sense when you realize that the contestants for these "shows" are going to be selected purely by lot, and therefore the possibility of train-wreck television is high. And I'm guessing Sony does not want a train-wreck mistaken for the product they produce for air.
While I'm all for trainwreck TV, and although the Lottery Winners episodes will be produced the same as normal episodes, I get your point.
Benfield:
Two choices. You can have $100,000; or you can have a video uploaded of you looking like a ninny on Youtube. Which do you choose?
In this hypothetical situation, I'd take the money.
Have you ever seen episodes of The Big Spin when it was just schmo after schmo walking up, talking to the host, grabbing a peg and having a go? It was dull TV then, it is dull TV now. Somewhere, I saw a clip of Todd Newton hosting a Showcase Showdown deal for a TPIR lottery game. It was dull. Why do you care so much to watch proceedings that have nary a spark to them.
The wording of the lottery statement seems to indicate that the Lottery Winners episodes will only contain the randomly-selected players doing the "normal" episode format.
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and although the Lottery Winners episodes will be produced the same as normal episodes
If you're even considering that as a remotely legitimate counterargument...
I get your point.
...I suspect strongly that you don't.
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Is it possible that the entities that create these scratchies and whatnot are independent of the entities that organize the planning and taping of episodes?
I mean, I subscribe to the "lottery players != good TV" theory, but it's just an idea.
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Every year for QuizBusters we tape a couple of programs using volunteer adults as contestants. Our specific purpose is to train the new camera operators, but the idea is the same. We're making a show on the same set as the regular show doing the same things that we regularly do, but there's no way we would ever air those episodes. The people who participate absolutely believe that they've gotten the "real" experience of being on the show, but there are a hundred and seventy three reasons why that's just not so.
Dan, you've got it in your head that this thing the lottery group does would look exactly the same as a regular episode. You are totally wrong about this.
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Minnesota's doing this as well.
Does anyone know if the lottery players' Wheel of Fortune game will even be held in the studio and hosted by Pat and Vanna? For all we know, the winners could be flown to the airport Hilton and play a game of Wheel of Fortune in a conference room using the 1990s board game, right?
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Does anyone know if the lottery players' Wheel of Fortune game will even be held in the studio and hosted by Pat and Vanna? For all we know, the winners could be flown to the airport Hilton and play a game of Wheel of Fortune in a conference room using the 1990s board game, right?
No, I'm pretty sure it's clearly stated that these games will take place on the Wheel of Fortune set. Whether Pat and Vanna will be present, I cannot say.
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No, I'm pretty sure it's clearly stated that these games will take place on the Wheel of Fortune set. Whether Pat and Vanna will be present, I cannot say.
Ah, a good point. Dan offered us this link (http://"http://wheeloffortunelovers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=spin&action=display&thread=2080") where he (as 'WarioSajak') and others complained about the gross unfairness of it all, but while the origial poster mentioned Pat and Vanna, nothing in any of the official rules that he quotes says that they would be there. It just says that the winners will be on the Wheel of Fortune stage. It's entirely possible that Pat and Vanna are named somewhere else, but it's also entirely possible that this is yet another thing about the "experience" that will be different from the real show.
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It's entirely possible that Pat and Vanna are named somewhere else, but it's also entirely possible that this is yet another thing about the "experience" that will be different from the real show.
From the South Dakota Lottery's official rules:
"Wheel of Fortune will also feature a drawing for two trips prize winners and up to three of their guests to Hollywood, CA, to play an exclusive non-broadcast lottery-players only Wheel of Fortune game with Pat Sajak and Vanna White."
http://lottery.sd.gov/documents/WOFDrawRulesMultiState0811.pdf (note: pdf file)
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Dan offered us this link (http://"http://wheeloffortunelovers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=spin&action=display&thread=2080") where he (as 'WarioSajak') and others complained about the gross unfairness of it all
That thread gave me a big headache.
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You can now lose your way (http://www.michigan.gov/lottery/0,4603,7-110-46442_821_1239-263502--RSS,00.html) to an off-camera Wheel episode in Michigan.
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Caveat Emptor:
Since it sounds like there's X amount of states, IIRC the second chance drawing is based off of a multi-state drawing. Better odds than winning Lotto, probably, but worse odds than a whole slew of things.
/probably better odds than Dan not to conspiracy theorize
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Indiana's in on this thing too...or so the three commercials during TPIR would lead me to believe.
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/probably better odds than Dan not to conspiracy theorize
Megaword was an inside job.
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/probably better odds than Dan not to conspiracy theorize
Megaword was an inside job.
Yes, and Merv Griffin was holding a second Bankrupt on the grassy knoll.