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Title: Feud Faceoff cue
Post by: erica on July 11, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
A while ago I posted about where I could hear/listen to a certain Feud face off cue.  Someone posted something but it was the wrong one.  Does anyone know where I can hear this particular one?  It is at the 2:34 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G0F9aiMDW4
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Post by: Bryce L. on July 11, 2011, 11:04:06 PM
Check out the Television Production Music Museum members' vault. They have all the Dawson/Combs cues.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 11, 2011, 11:19:15 PM
I can't hear anything. Crowd noise drowns it out.
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Post by: Bryce L. on July 11, 2011, 11:35:53 PM
To me, it sounded like one of the electric guitar cues.
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Post by: William_S. on July 11, 2011, 11:36:10 PM
It sounds like the electric guitar cue.
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Post by: snowpeck on July 12, 2011, 03:22:31 AM
Check out the Television Production Music Museum members' vault. They have all the Dawson/Combs cues.

Only the Combs era cues are there. The Dawson era cues (one of which is apparently what erica is looking for) remain lost to time, at least until someone turns them up.
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Post by: Brian44 on July 12, 2011, 03:58:24 PM
Nice to see a post from someone named "erica."

Guys dig a woman who's into game show music. :-)
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Post by: DoorNumberFour on July 12, 2011, 06:09:08 PM
Nice to see a post from someone named "erica."

Guys dig a woman who's into game show music. :-)
I hope it's not Eric A...
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Post by: erica on July 12, 2011, 11:26:04 PM
Nice to see a post from someone named "erica."

Guys dig a woman who's into game show music. :-)
I hope it's not Eric A...
It isn't, and "Erica" is my real name.  Is there a place to listen to the theme without paying a huge outrageous fee?
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Post by: TLEberle on July 12, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
It isn't, and "Erica" is my real name.  Is there a place to listen to the theme without paying a huge outrageous fee?
Four dollars a month is outrageous now? Let me show you my prescription bill from last month. You'll pop a vein.
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Post by: erica on July 12, 2011, 11:55:26 PM
It isn't, and "Erica" is my real name.  Is there a place to listen to the theme without paying a huge outrageous fee?
Four dollars a month is outrageous now? Let me show you my prescription bill from last month. You'll pop a vein.
I don't think it says $4.00.  More like $25.00 or something to that extent.  And I don't think I should have to pay a fee to listen to some online site.  Especially, when I can go on Youtube, or Television Tunes and can listen to others for FREE.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 13, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Four a month? I thought it was twenty five.
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Post by: TLEberle on July 13, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
Four a month? I thought it was twenty five.
No sir. Twenty-five dollars for six months, fifty for a year, and that doesn't include the bonus month.
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Post by: bulldog_06 on July 13, 2011, 11:54:37 PM
I always wanted that cue...but can never find it in the clear.
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Post by: snowpeck on July 14, 2011, 12:15:59 AM
It isn't, and "Erica" is my real name.  Is there a place to listen to the theme without paying a huge outrageous fee?
Four dollars a month is outrageous now? Let me show you my prescription bill from last month. You'll pop a vein.
I don't think it says $4.00.  More like $25.00 or something to that extent.  And I don't think I should have to pay a fee to listen to some online site.  Especially, when I can go on Youtube, or Television Tunes and can listen to others for FREE.

And those other sites you mentioned are violating copyrights by hosting music and videos there.  The money paid to TVPMM goes towards ASCAP and BMI fees so listening to music there is completely legal.

Plus, that site needs a lot of bandwidth and storage, which costs a lot of money.  I'd rather pay a fee than see a bunch of pop-up ads with attached viruses.
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Post by: TLEberle on July 14, 2011, 12:24:35 AM
I don't think it says $4.00.  More like $25.00 or something to that extent.  
What you think and what is reality are very different.

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And I don't think I should have to pay a fee to listen to some online site.  Especially, when I can go on Youtube, or Television Tunes and can listen to others for FREE.
Why not? What makes you so special that you should get to break the rules?
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Post by: erica on July 14, 2011, 09:04:42 PM
I don't think it says $4.00.  More like $25.00 or something to that extent.  
What you think and what is reality are very different.

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And I don't think I should have to pay a fee to listen to some online site.  Especially, when I can go on Youtube, or Television Tunes and can listen to others for FREE.
Why not? What makes you so special that you should get to break the rules?
Well EXCUSE ME!!  Maybe I have more important things to spend my $25.00 on.  And maybe it's just one theme I want to hear and can listen to the others for free elsewhere.
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Post by: clemon79 on July 14, 2011, 09:31:28 PM
Well EXCUSE ME!!  Maybe I have more important things to spend my $25.00 on.
Who's got two thumbs and doesn't get to hear that cue?

/um, you do have two thumbs, right?
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Post by: pacdude on July 14, 2011, 09:44:52 PM
Hey look, Erica has a demand and the TVPMM has the supply of it. Let this be a lesson in economics: many Americans are entitled and don't think paying for things they want is fair. These people are dumbasses.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 14, 2011, 09:53:55 PM
And hoarding television themes somehow is fairer?

(I'm not defending Erica's fanaticism because there isn't any defense for it but I don't fully believe the money going into the coffers at TVPMM is being used for anything more than web hosting costs. If gaining rights to the music was so important why was he so freely displaying most of said music on the website before? Am I the only crazy one who thinks that's just a slight bit suspicious? Maybe I'm missing something but it raises a red flag on my end, going from "here's what we have now" to "you gotta pay to see my collection".)
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Post by: JasonA1 on July 14, 2011, 10:50:16 PM
Maybe I'm missing something but it raises a red flag on my end, going from "here's what we have now" to "you gotta pay to see my collection"

For argument's sake: perhaps he thought having the Paypal tip jar alone would generate the revenue necessary to keep the site going, and realized later a more formal system would need to be in place? Perhaps he underestimated how much bandwidth the site would consume in its "free" form? You see the theme obsessives all over YouTube, and they must have racked up the plays on some of the cues. Perhaps he wanted to attract more music to the collection (and site) by having a private tier, and ensuring those contributing that the site was legit, both in license and in security. That's just the start of my "perhaps" sentences.

There's virtually never total transparency when it comes to how your money is spent: business, charity or otherwise. But I get the feeling, with all the time and energy spent on the site and how the material is handled, that this is more a labor of love that he wants to share, and he doesn't want to be the musical equivalent of a YouTube channel whose reams of old game shows are taken down because of one click-happy lawyer. By paying to make everything legal, he gets to continue doing it, and continue growing the stash. My brow has been raised a time or two with the site and its announcements, but I enjoy what I pay for.

My opinion.

-Jason
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on July 14, 2011, 11:08:41 PM
Keep in mind that plenty of themes and cues are available from sources other than TVPMM, and several of those sources are free.  

If TVPMM is offering something for a price, and you don't want to pay that price, then you don't get what he has to offer, and he doesn't get your money.  That's the way it works.  Not a terribly complicated concept.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 14, 2011, 11:18:50 PM
Well, okay then. Now I grasp it better. Ain't gotta like it, but I get it.
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Post by: erica on July 16, 2011, 02:22:05 PM
You know what?  Excuse me for having higher priorities to spend my money on.  Maybe spending $25.00 is not a high priority to me.  And you know what else?  I have the right to my opinion.  I just happened to hear that theme and thought it was cool and wanted to know where I could hear the full version.  And again, I didn't want to have to pay $25.00, which again I have bigger priorities to spend my money on. I guess I can skip buying the theme and spend MY $25.00 on something for my little niece instead.  Maybe spending $25.00 on a game show theme is a big deal to most of you, but it apparently isn't for me.  All I wanted is to know if there was somewhere online for free that I could listen to it.  I certainly didn't want to cause an uproar.
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Post by: pacdude on July 16, 2011, 03:40:21 PM
You know what?  Excuse me for having higher priorities to spend my money on.  Maybe spending $25.00 is not a high priority to me.  And you know what else?  I have the right to my opinion.  I just happened to hear that theme and thought it was cool and wanted to know where I could hear the full version.  And again, I didn't want to have to pay $25.00, which again I have bigger priorities to spend my money on. I guess I can skip buying the theme and spend MY $25.00 on something for my little niece instead.  Maybe spending $25.00 on a game show theme is a big deal to most of you, but it apparently isn't for me.  All I wanted is to know if there was somewhere online for free that I could listen to it.  I certainly didn't want to cause an uproar.

You do that. I'm gonna go listen to the theme.

/and here's your long distance dedication. (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OagFIQMs1tw")
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Post by: clemon79 on July 16, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
I have the right to my opinion.
You do indeed. So:

No, there is nowhere else online, to the best of anyone's knowledge, that is legally posting this theme for you to listen to for free.

(And you're not getting crap for asking, you're getting crap for copping a serious 'tude when someone suggested a solution. "I'm not interested in subscribing, thanks, is there a free alternative?" might have gone better for you, I suspect. And if it didn't, at least it's not on you.)
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Post by: Brian44 on July 16, 2011, 06:37:27 PM
You know what?  Excuse me for having higher priorities to spend my money on.  Maybe spending $25.00 is not a high priority to me.  And you know what else?  I have the right to my opinion.  I just happened to hear that theme and thought it was cool and wanted to know where I could hear the full version.  And again, I didn't want to have to pay $25.00, which again I have bigger priorities to spend my money on. I guess I can skip buying the theme and spend MY $25.00 on something for my little niece instead.  Maybe spending $25.00 on a game show theme is a big deal to most of you, but it apparently isn't for me.  All I wanted is to know if there was somewhere online for free that I could listen to it.  I certainly didn't want to cause an uproar.

This guy doesn't dig this woman like he thought he would.
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Post by: Steve Gavazzi on July 16, 2011, 07:42:28 PM
All I wanted is to know if there was somewhere online for free that I could listen to it.
And we told you.  And then you decided you didn't like our answer and threw a hissy fit.  (And are still throwing it, actually.)
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Post by: WarioBarker on July 16, 2011, 08:41:02 PM
First, here's a game show theme collection for $6 (http://"http://www.emusic.com/album/The-TV-Theme-Players-TV-Game-Show-Themes-MP3-Download/11785038.html"). I'm just the messenger.

Maybe spending $25.00 on a game show theme is a big deal to most of you, but it apparently isn't for me.
To be clear, it's $25 for six-month access to about 500+ TV themes in master quality. It averages out to $4.19 a month, which is pretty affordable. And you're not exactly "buying the theme" -- you're buying access to it.

All I wanted is to know if there was somewhere online for free that I could listen to it.
TVPMM is the only place I know of where the music is legally available. While yes, there are free methods to get that music, most (if not all) of them were not legally allowed to do so (I'm sure at least some of us recall T.Q.'s Game and Reality Show Themes Page); TVPMM's membership fees go directly toward paying the music fees to allow the songs to be present. Further, some of those "free" methods can put your computer at serious risk of viruses, which could end up costing more than $25 depending on your level of protection.

/not a member of TVPMM
//still respect it, though
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Post by: clemon79 on July 16, 2011, 09:21:31 PM
Sure there's free methods, but all of them are considered illegal
You certainly seem to know a lot about everything that is on the Internet.
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Post by: MTCesquire on July 17, 2011, 12:30:56 PM
First, here's a game show theme collection for $6 (http://"http://www.emusic.com/album/The-TV-Theme-Players-TV-Game-Show-Themes-MP3-Download/11785038.html"). I'm just the messenger.

Or you could take a $1 and $5 bill and set it on fire.  Same difference.

You could've at least pointed her to a site where she could get one of the GSN CD's.  At least they would be the actual themes instead of crappy MIDI renditions.  But since that would require spending money which she *clearly* doesn't want to do, that would've been pointless too.
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Post by: WarioBarker on July 17, 2011, 05:16:20 PM
You could've at least pointed her to a site where she could get one of the GSN CD's. At least they would be the actual themes instead of crappy MIDI renditions. But since that would require spending money which she *clearly* doesn't want to do, that would've been pointless too.
I thought about it, then considered exactly what you said -- if Erica didn't want to spend $25 for six-month access to countless official music cues, then she didn't want to spend $12-15 for a CD of about 15 official cues, either...especially since they're not the cue she asked about.

Ergo, the least expensive solution I know. You get what you pay for, and if you follow the link I provided...then you'll get the crappiest "remixes"/"covers" ever.

/they did a cover of Monopoly
//M.O.N.O.P-O-L-FRICKIN'-Y
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Post by: TLEberle on July 17, 2011, 06:19:02 PM
Ergo, the cheapest solution I could find. You get what you pay for. And in the link I provided, what you get...is utter crap.
Then why bother? I could make a meal for a dollar a night if I wanted to eat nothing but ramen and Vienna sausages. But I don't, because I'm OK paying a good money for good quality. Eric A. wants For Free, and For Legal, and I suspect will not spend money to get what he wants.
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Post by: erica on July 18, 2011, 12:11:17 AM
Ergo, the cheapest solution I could find. You get what you pay for. And in the link I provided, what you get...is utter crap.
Then why bother? I could make a meal for a dollar a night if I wanted to eat nothing but ramen and Vienna sausages. But I don't, because I'm OK paying a good money for good quality. Eric A. wants For Free, and For Legal, and I suspect will not spend money to get what he wants.
Maybe Danielle88 I'm not as interested in game show themes as you apparently are.  For the millionth and hopefully final time, I have better things to spend my $25.00 on.  Perhaps I'm a sports fan and would rather spend my $25.00 on a game ticket and program instead.  Maybe I thought the song I heard was cool and wanted to know if there was a site online here (without paying a fee)I could listen to it at.  If Danielle 88 wants to pay for a $25.00 site (or anyone else for that matter), more power to her.  But I'm not interested.  And more power to me.
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Post by: clemon79 on July 18, 2011, 01:21:09 AM
And in the link I provided, what you get...is utter crap.
Well, at least you're consistent.
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Post by: DoorNumberFour on July 18, 2011, 09:49:07 AM
Maybe Danielle88 I'm not as interested in game show themes as you apparently are.
Maybe you obviously are, since you posted a question about a game show theme in a game show forum in search of an answer.

Just stop. You asked, not us.
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Post by: WarioBarker on July 18, 2011, 02:43:09 PM
Danielle88
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody, least of all me, said or implied that I was a girl. And, for the record, I'm not (Daniel, not Danielle)...as you would've noticed had you looked at my profile page, where it clearly says MALE.

I'm with DoorNumberFour on this one.
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Post by: Mr. Armadillo on July 18, 2011, 03:38:05 PM
Maybe I thought the song I heard was cool and wanted to know if there was a site online here (without paying a fee)I could listen to it at.
Nope, sorry.  Sucks to be us (defined as 'people who aren't obsessed with television themes'), but the owners of the music are well within their rights to put them behind a paywall.  

Just because a music piece was used on free television airwaves doesn't mean we have a right to listen to them for free in perpetuity, no more than everyone has a right to the latest Katy Perry mp3 just because the song is broadcast on the radio.
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Post by: clemon79 on July 18, 2011, 03:46:25 PM
but the owners
Seems like terminology is important here: licensees (for commercial use).
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Post by: PYLdude on July 18, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
I don't know what the worst part of that exchange was- the fact that she still apparently is beating this dead horse or the fact she's attacking the wrong guy for calling her a dude. (Relax Travis. I'm not saying she should switch gears.)
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Post by: TLEberle on July 18, 2011, 04:15:52 PM
(Relax Travis. I'm not saying she should switch gears.)
Hm what?
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Post by: PYLdude on July 18, 2011, 05:01:20 PM
(Relax Travis. I'm not saying she should switch gears.)
Hm what?

Thought that was pretty self explanatory.

I'm not suggesting she start attacking you.
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Post by: TLEberle on July 18, 2011, 05:04:52 PM
Thought that was pretty self explanatory.

I'm not suggesting she start attacking you.
Excellent, glad to hear it. :) I was unaware that I would be under attack, and surely I can take care of myself.

Carry on, Nothing To See Here.
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Post by: DJ !mpact on July 19, 2011, 10:14:22 PM
[font="Arial"]So does this mean the electric guitar cue (as contained in the Youtube vid) is not available anywhere online (whether free or for-pay) at this time?[/font]