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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: wdm1219inpenna on June 21, 2011, 11:16:08 AM
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Though produced by the same company (Goodson), it seems the Eubanks version differed in that on the bottom row, 4 cards were dealt out, covering up the $200 sign on the bottom level, whereas on Perry's version that was not the case. Did CBS require the cards to be dealt differently, did Lacey & Susana "mess up" the first time and they just kept it that way, or did the show make an effort to just change the rule that way? It seems it made more sense the way they did it on Eubanks' version.
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Did CBS require the cards to be dealt differently,
At the minimum, I don't have the first clue how this would even be considered as a remotely possible explanation.
If I were going to speculate in a totally wild-assed fashion (and any attempt to answer this question would be just that, wild-assed speculation), I would say that they probably did it this way because of Eubanks, and here's my totally-out-of-left-field logic for that:
Remembering what I do of him on that show, he was always very polite to his dealers, generally thanking them whenever they handed him something or did something for him or whatever. It would not surprise me if they did it the Perry way in run-throughs (remember those? Run-throughs?), and Eubanks broke up his rattle to thank the dealer when they handed him the first card, and it was decided it flowed better if they just dealt the card from the outset so he could issue the player their $200 and flow seamlessly into the game.
Of course, the Money Cards I found through a quick YouTube search totally contradicts this when the dude changes the card, but I'm gonna link it anyhow simply because it's such a freakin' good one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXTTUk6yccg&hd=1
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Though produced by the same company (Goodson), it seems the Eubanks version differed in that on the bottom row, 4 cards were dealt out, covering up the $200 sign on the bottom level, whereas on Perry's version that was not the case. Did CBS require the cards to be dealt differently, did Lacey & Susana "mess up" the first time and they just kept it that way, or did the show make an effort to just change the rule that way? It seems it made more sense the way they did it on Eubanks' version.
My guess it's just something the producers of the show decided to do for the new version. One thing I liked was the maximum payout was an even $32,000, rather than the kind of awkward $28,800.
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The Money Cards proper look to be the first 7 cards off the top of the deck, and the sideboard is the next 3.
Could it just be simply for consistency's sake?
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The Money Cards proper look to be the first 7 cards off the top of the deck, and the sideboard is the next 3.
Could it just be simply for consistency's sake?
The Money Cards board, as dealt in that fashion, uses 8 cards.
-Jason
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I always thought that minor change was just a random thing they did, and nothing more.
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I always thought that minor change was just a random thing they did, and nothing more.
I thought that too, until I remembered all the minor things the Goodson camp would (at that time) fight for and debate. There was an anecdote describing how they argued what time's up bell Classic Concentration would use. While it's possible that it was random in the grand scheme of things, something tells me the way they dealt the cards was at least talked about at one point within the offices.
-Jason
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There was an anecdote describing how they argued what time's up bell Classic Concentration would use.
Is that online somewhere? I wouldn't mind reading about it.
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Since the CBS version had only the 3 cards on the sideboard, as opposed to the top of deck when changing the card, it would only be consistant to have the base card loaded first.
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Since the CBS version had only the 3 cards on the sideboard, as opposed to the top of deck when changing the card, it would only be consistant to have the base card loaded first.
I know I'm going to regret asking this, but why's that any more consistent then dealing out the cards and then handing Bob the first base card? Why does it matter?
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Maybe that's why the change was made -- when dealing the cards the Eubanks way, the first card the player sees is the first card off the top of their deck. When dealing the cards the Perry way, the first card the player sees is the eighth card from their cut, which, when you think about it, doesn't make a lot of sense.
Of course, I doubt that any of the viewers at home put that kind of thought into it. But I can imagine a Goodson-Todman staffer bringing up that point.
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Maybe that's why the change was made -- when dealing the cards the Eubanks way, the first card the player sees is the first card off the top of their deck. When dealing the cards the Perry way, the first card the player sees is the eighth card from their cut, which, when you think about it, doesn't make a lot of sense.
The cards are thoroughly shuffled and then cut. Whether the first card they see was on top of the deck or eighth from the top doesn't make a single damned lick of difference.
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Watching that Eubanks clip, did anyone else miss the sort of "flourish" with which the Money Cards were dealt by the models on the Perry version? Just seemed more entertaining to me than the method Eubanks' models used, just sort of sitting them down carefully.
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Since the CBS version had only the 3 cards on the sideboard, as opposed to the top of deck when changing the card, it would only be consistant to have the base card loaded first.
I know I'm going to regret asking this, but why's that any more consistent then dealing out the cards and then handing Bob the first base card? Why does it matter?
I only offer it as a suggestion. I'm with you in that it really doesn't matter.
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I only offer it as a suggestion. I'm with you in that it really doesn't matter.
You still didn't answer my question about why one method is more "consistent" than the other, especially when you are now saying you agree that it doesn't ultimately matter.
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It's not joker's point, it's Scott's, but dealing them the "Eubanks way" is consistent with the front game. The first card off the top of the deck is the first one you play with. I agree that it doesn't really matter which card is your base card, but it's entirely possible somebody at some time decided it to be a better way.
-Jason
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The only way I can see it potentially mattering is if there's a concern over the contestant accidentally seeing a card as its dealt. If the first card off is more likely to be flashed, clearly they'd want it to be the first card played, rather than the last card played.
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The only way I can see it potentially mattering is if there's a concern over the contestant accidentally seeing a card as its dealt.
a) There are so many ways to avoid having that enter into the equation that it's not even worth considering.
b) If it DID end up being a problem, they need new dealers.
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The only way I can see it potentially mattering is if there's a concern over the contestant accidentally seeing a card as its dealt.
a) There are so many ways to avoid having that enter into the equation that it's not even worth considering.
b) If it DID end up being a problem, they need new dealers.
Agreed on both counts. I'm just presenting a possible reason. Truth is, there is probably fark none reason why they did it one way rather than another.
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Agreed on both counts. I'm just presenting a possible reason.
Oh, for sure. But another *possible* reason is that an emergency wire came from the Queen of England stating that Her Highness had caught wind of the shows revival and that she wanted to point out that she didn't care for the order in which the cards were dealt on the Perry show.
Now, I allow that your suggestion is more "possible" than that, but I'm trying to illustrate that "possible" and "likely enough to merit consideration" are two different things. :)