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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: tvrandywest on June 09, 2011, 01:23:41 PM
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Merv Griffin's company is rushing a new primetime game show into production for NBC. Cedric the Entertainer will host "What's it Worth". (http://"http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/469423-NBC_s_It_s_Worth_What_Premieres_July_12.php")
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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From the title alone, it sounds more like a parody than a new show.
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Reminds me of Cullen TPIR.
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From the title alone, it sounds more like a parody than a new show.
Coming soon, Mad Magazine presents "Retch Game '76" and "Wheel of CLODS."
-Jason
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I've often thought something closer to the old Price Is Right could work again. Then again, not sure putting it on NBC is a fair test.
Isn't executive producer Lara Spencer Pat O'Brien's blonde one-time co-host on "The Insider"? And when will Pat wind up on GSN, anyway?
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FWIW (no pun intended), here is some more information on Cedric's new show, now titled "It's Worth What??" or pronounced as "It's Worth WHAAAAAaaaat???"
[media]http://www.nbc.com/its-worth-what/video/its-worth-what-extended-trailer/1340018[/media]
And here is an NPR article on the show as well (Audio avail after 7PM ET on the 12th): NPR Link. (http://"http://www.npr.org/2011/07/12/137764183/tv-continues-to-cash-in-on-pawn-show-popularity")
And if you care to watch The Talk, or see it on cbs.com., Cedric hosts a mini game with the Talk-ers on the Tuesday 7/12 show.
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This might be kinda fun. Production values look good. I know it's his trademark, but it's impolite to wear a hat indoors.
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I've often thought something closer to the old Price Is Right could work again.
I would love to see that. CBS probably wouldn't go retro on us, but I'd like to see something along the lines of Antiques Roadshow meets The Price Was Right meets Price is Right Classic. Use the Cullen format with moderately priced old stuff, and the winner keeps the cash value of the prizes they've "captured".
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I'd like to see something along the lines of Antiques Roadshow meets The Price Was Right meets Price is Right Classic.
Reading the NPR.com piece, that's exactly what "It's Worth What?" is. If we're going down the Antiques Roadshow road, I'd be tempted to make it more like Let's Make a Deal. "Do you want $1000 or thus dusty old canvas? Turns out, that dusty old canvas is a $400,000 work of art from revolutionary France!" Or, "one of these paintings is a Jackson Pollack, the other was done by Chuck Woolery's 6-year-old."
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I know it's his trademark, but it's impolite to wear a hat indoors.
I think this rule is starting to fall into disuse, just because a lot of people don't know it anymore. I wear a fedora indoors fairly often, and I almost never get called out on it.
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I haven't seen the show yet, but if anyone is enamored of the game that you want to make a do-it-yourself version one could use Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous by Pressman Toys. (http://"http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12345/lifestyles-of-the-rich-and-famous-the-game")
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Watched the show; it's pretty okay. It's not particularly original, but it's a refreshing change of pace from standard prime time fare, and a fairly smart way to make self-contained episodes. My only concern would that the novelty could wear out rather fast.
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I was nearly able to link each of the rounds with a pricing game without all that much effort. Round two was To Tell The Truth, and round seven was about matching which celebrity owned which item. I'd dig it if the show moved at double speed and the rounds weren't equivalent to coin tossing.
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and round seven was about matching which celebrity owned which item.
Who's Who, from WML?, down to handing the celebrities a sign.
I thought the dress-up round was "make an outfit that was more than the other", not "make the most expensive outfit".
Pacing was a touch slow, but was just the same as Price is Right without the qualification rounds.
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I thought the dress-up round was "make an outfit that was more than the other", not "make the most expensive outfit".
I had it down as Give or Keep originally, but when it was "pick the most expensive accessory," it became Trader Cedric.
So, yay. We're now playing games that were retired thirty years ago.
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My issue is that I joined in late, so when I see the graphic saying "Bust It," I'm thinking, "OK, they lose, who's our next contestant?"
Shouldn't a game show be simple enough that if you join in late you can still figure out the scoring system?
On the positive, at least Cedric didn't do the "It's worth whaaa-aaaat? We'll find out after this" routine (unless he did it before I joined up).
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Went back and skimmed it, here's the games for this show:
Most Expensive
90s TTTT/One on One
Most Expensive
Easy as 1-2-3
Trader Bob
Most Expensive
Who's Who - WML
...and the end, which is some kind of Poker Game extension.
I feel a "Swap Meet" would be interesting.
Also: great set.
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Worst lock-in catchphrase EVAR.
I dunno. I made it partway through the third game and decided I didn't much care what this stuff was worth.
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I watched it last night with my girlfriend, and we both said the same thing: Interesting premise, but it's already being done at a faster pace on TPIR, the novelty will wear quickly, and the "Are you SURE sure?" variation of "Final answer?" was extremely grating after a few segments.
However, I will say that I liked the final round; a nice change of pace from the quick-play games they had earlier. Part of me thinks that it would work better with maybe two competing teams in the first part of the show, playing for 1/10 the stakes it has now, with the winning team getting to play the final round.
Then again, I've got TPIR, so, although Cedric isn't a bad host, I can't see myself watching much more of this show, and would be *very* surprised to see it make it out of the summer.
Anthony
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Then again, I've got TPIR, so, although Cedric isn't a bad host, I can't see myself watching much more of this show, and would be *very* surprised to see it make it out of the summer.
Agreed - especially as I think they would run out of items that anybody cares out relatively quickly.
I also have a feeling there are going to be a number of complaints about putting a dollar value on an elephant.
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So...a new Minute to Win It gets pulled tonight for last night's episode of this thing?
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I stayed for the whole thing so it was better than I expected. Not compelling enough to tune in again though. And yes, I'm SURE sure.
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In an effort to encourage positive behavior, I will point out the things I liked:
- Not once did they go to commercial before an answer was revealed!
- No emotion-manipulating backstories. Here are the two contestants, here's how they know one another, here's an interesting anecdote about them, now let's play the game for the rest of the show. The focus was on playing along with the contestants, right where it should be.
- While the set may have been a little too dark (to mimic all of the other dark-set game shows), I did like that the set elements all played to the same motif, matching the subject matter of the show (rather than just being another dark blue and silver set). I found the Nixie tube-inspired score display especially charming.
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I found the Nixie tube-inspired score display especially charming.
And if it wasn't just another screen, I would have dug that too. I liked that the set had an Indiana Jones warehouse vibe to it, but the idea that I could link the challenges to TPIR games cheesed me off. Even the grand final was a thinly-veiled Step Up.
I'm not sure what you can do with prices of stuff, but the problem I had was that I had no baseline. I know that a Cadillac is more than a Mustang, and that Drano is more than Doritos. Not once could I do anything other than just do a mental coin flip and pick something. In a conversation with another, I said that there needed to be either more games/less show time, some competition, and a greater variation in the tasks at hand.
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the idea that I could link the challenges to TPIR games cheesed me off. Even the grand final was a thinly-veiled Step Up.
Considering the premise of the show is to estimate the value of items, and that even the venerable Price cannibalizes itself on occasion, I don't find this to be as big a problem. After all, what can you feasibly do that can't be traced back to another show?
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Considering the premise of the show is to estimate the value of items, and that even the venerable Price cannibalizes itself on occasion, I don't find this to be as big a problem. After all, what can you feasibly do that can't be traced back to another show?
Fair point, but then I would say that they could have done a little more to be less obvious about it.
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Except when they actually did try to add some complexity in the endgame, you still called them out.
Also, when the big elaborate set pieces are the "prizes" and not the games, I'm not sure that covering simple tasks in layers of chrome works as well as you and I would like. But the promos imply there are more minigames to be played, so maybe it'll come up trumps for everyone.
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Even the grand final was a thinly-veiled Step Up.
I'm not sure what you can do with prices of stuff, but the problem I had was that I had no baseline. I know that a Cadillac is more than a Mustang, and that Drano is more than Doritos. Not once could I do anything other than just do a mental coin flip and pick something. In a conversation with another, I said that there needed to be either more games/less show time, some competition, and a greater variation in the tasks at hand.
I pinned the Grand Final to Clearance Sale for the gameplay, but yeah, Step Up for the scoring. I like that it's not a "you leave with nothing" situation, and that a pair of contestants who do well enough in the main game are still going to be guaranteed to leave with five figures, if not a little less.
My big issue, as already mentioned, is that I really don't know how to price any of these products with any logic or confidence, and that takes away some of the fun of the gameplay. I can argue with my girlfriend over the price of a current car, but it's going to be harder to do that with Princess Di's dress since neither of us has a single damn clue of where to start price wise.
One thing that I think is missing in recent game shows is the competition. Honestly, I'm tired of seeing game shows where it's gotta be "contestant against the house". I appreciate the fact that they didn't take the money tree/3 helps route, but when I watch a game show, I like to see some real competition. Anyway, It's Worth What is good enough to be on as background television, but for me, nothing more than that.
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My big issue, as already mentioned, is that I really don't know how to price any of these products with any logic or confidence, and that takes away some of the fun of the gameplay.
Is that fair though? I don't know every world capital or everything Shakespeare has written...that doesn't ruin the gameplay of Jeopardy! for me.