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Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: tvwxman on April 18, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
George Gray announced as the new announcer. Good choice - one of the better who auditioned for the gig.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Stevek83 on April 18, 2011, 11:51:01 AM
I Knew it! Between his home showcase video and his new blog, I suspected they made him the new announcer! I was also rooting for JD Roberto and Jeff Davis, but I'm happy with the choice.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 18, 2011, 12:03:35 PM
Hardly the best person who auditioned for the job; hardly the worst, either.  Much like Rich, actually.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: DoorNumberFour on April 18, 2011, 12:03:49 PM
Fantastic news. He's a great fit. I'm very happy for him.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: SamJ93 on April 18, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Good choice.  Sometimes his delivery sounds a little forced, but overall he sounds much more polished and professional than Rich, or even Rod in his last few years.

I wonder what the reaction would be if one could time-travel back to ATGS circa 1998 or so, and tell them (us) that the host of Extreme Gong would be announcing TPiR in 13 years...
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Jumpondees on April 18, 2011, 12:08:37 PM
Despite his previous TV successes and failures, George does have a pretty good voice, plays pretty well off of Drew, and should fit in pretty well.  I kind of had the feeling that since we were seeing a lot more George in recent weeks, that it was only a matter of time before he became "official".
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Matt Ottinger on April 18, 2011, 12:25:22 PM
My impression is that "plays pretty well off Drew" was, far and away, the most important criterion, much more so than the sound of his voice or how well he reads copy.  I'd further guess that his good-natured sportsmanship during the April Fools episode went a long way toward cementing the offer.

Once again, purists probably will be up in arms, but frankly, I don't understand why they're even watching the show anymore.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: tvrandywest on April 18, 2011, 12:33:16 PM
Despite his previous TV successes and failures, George does have a pretty good voice, plays pretty well off of Drew, and should fit in pretty well.  I kind of had the feeling that since we were seeing a lot more George in recent weeks, that it was only a matter of time before he became "official".
I'm glad the news is out so I can shout my public congratulations to George. From our work and converstaions together I know that George is a great choice for the gig. He's a total pro with amazing talent and natural instincts that are endearing to audiences, he's one of the most sincerely likeable people in the business, and he has been a good friend. While I consider him first and foremost a host, he'll be able to contribute so much from the announcer's podium.  

The long national nightmare is over!    ;-)


Randy
tvrandywest.com
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: clemon79 on April 18, 2011, 01:06:54 PM
George Gray announced as the new announcer. Good choice - one of the better who auditioned for the gig.
This pleases me greatly. I thought he and Jeff Davis were far and away the best candidates, leaning towards George. They got this one right.

I'd ask Steve who he thought was so far ahead of him for him to be "hardly" the best candidate (and if you're going to use the word "hardly," Steve, there really ought to be more than one name on that list), but we all know that will end badly, so I won't.

Once again, purists probably will be up in arms, but frankly, I don't understand why they're even watching the show anymore.
What would they have to bitch about if they didn't?
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 18, 2011, 01:38:59 PM
This pleases me greatly. I thought he and Jeff Davis were far and away the best candidates, leaning towards George. They got this one right.

I'd ask Steve who he thought was so far ahead of him for him to be "hardly" the best candidate (and if you're going to use the word "hardly," Steve, there really ought to be more than one name on that list), but we all know that will end badly, so I won't.
You really think so?

I thought Jeff Davis and David Lawrence were much better at reading copy than George is, with David being my first choice.  On the other hand, Brad Sherwood and Steve White were so much worse that it's not even funny.  J.D. Roberto wasn't really anything but forgettable.

My impression is that "plays pretty well off Drew" was, far and away, the most important criterion, much more so than the sound of his voice or how well he reads copy.  I'd further guess that his good-natured sportsmanship during the April Fools episode went a long way toward cementing the offer.
I'm under the impression that George essentially had the job locked up long before the April Fool's Day show was taped.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: clemon79 on April 18, 2011, 01:59:31 PM
You really think so?
About George being the best candidate? Yeah, I do. I enjoyed watching the show when he was on it the most.

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I thought Jeff Davis and David Lawrence were much better at reading copy than George is, with David being my first choice. On the other hand, Brad Sherwood and Steve White were so much worse that it's not even funny.  J.D. Roberto wasn't really anything but forgettable.
Fair enough. We disagree, but life would be boring if everyone agreed (also if you and I agreed more often than not I think it would be a sign of the Apocalypse :)) and in my eyes your opinion above more than backs up your initial statement. S'all good and I apologize for expecting the worst from the exchange.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 18, 2011, 02:25:37 PM
You really think so?
About George being the best candidate?
Actually, I meant that with regard to the conversation ending badly...but eh.  My fault for not making that more clear.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Kevin Prather on April 18, 2011, 03:12:33 PM
So how many game-show-hosts-turned-announcers are there now? I can think of Grey and Gary Kroeger. Was Jack Clark a host before he started announcing?
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: clemon79 on April 18, 2011, 03:25:04 PM
Was Jack Clark a host before he started announcing?
Get off my lawn, you little bastard. :)

/yes, Crosswits and Dealer's Choice, at least
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: MikeK on April 18, 2011, 03:36:00 PM
So how many game-show-hosts-turned-announcers are there now? I can think of Grey and Gary Kroeger.
Johnny Gilbert, Art James, Gene Wood, Joey Fatone (with a huge asterisk since his stuff is pre-recorded), Bob Clayton...
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Twentington on April 18, 2011, 03:50:08 PM
I thought George was the best of the tryouts, myself. I didn't see many epsiodes when David was filling in, but I've listened to some of his work on YouTube and he would've been my second choice.

I guess I'm in the minority for not liking Jeff Davis too much. He seemed too low-key.

So how many game-show-hosts-turned-announcers are there now? I can think of Grey and Gary Kroeger. Was Jack Clark a host before he started announcing?

Jim McKrell?
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: JasonA1 on April 18, 2011, 03:55:07 PM
So how many game-show-hosts-turned-announcers are there now? I can think of Grey and Gary Kroeger.
Johnny Gilbert, Art James, Gene Wood, Joey Fatone (with a huge asterisk since his stuff is pre-recorded), Bob Clayton...

...Johnny Olson, Bill Armstrong, Jack Narz, Bob Hilton...

-Jason
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Jimmy Owen on April 18, 2011, 05:12:25 PM
Good choice! Always enjoyed his work.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: TimK2003 on April 18, 2011, 06:10:09 PM
Was Jack Clark a host before he started announcing?
Get off my lawn, you little bastard. :)

/yes, Crosswits and Dealer's Choice, at least


He may or may not count, as he was one of the announcers on the original Password (IIRC, when they did shows on the Left Coast).  However he did fill-in as host, but I think he was already announcing on PW by then.

Same thing with Marc Summers (Fill-in announcer on "Bruce Forsythe's Hot Streak" just before hosting "Double Dare") in '86...
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: JakeT on April 18, 2011, 06:16:18 PM
George Gray announced as the new announcer. Good choice - one of the better who auditioned for the gig.

Although I really hadn't paid that much attention to the whole rotating announcer audition process stuff, when all is said and done, of all the guys who were given a shot at the full-time gig, I think George Gray was definitely the best choice and best fit overall.  

While I didn't strongly object to any of the other candidates, I will admit that each of them (except for George) did exhibit at least one minor trait that I views as a flaw/quirk/annoyance and therein a wee distraction from the game for me:

J.D. Roberto just came across as too much of a "yes man" for my tastes...c'mon...calling Drew "Boss" was just a bit cheezy and butt-smooochy for me.  

Jeff Davis, while a decent announcer, somehow just felt a wee bit oily to me...dunno why...also, I kinda felt he was there because he was Drew's buddy and not because he was necessarily the best man for the job.

Brad Sherwood, partially for the buddy buddy aspect, but mainly because, to me, he almost always sounded like he was playing the part of a game show announcer on a sitcom...rather over-the-top and lacking a degree of sincerity.  With that said, I continue to be a Brad Sherwood fan outside of TPiR.

David Lawrence...dammit...I hate my reason for not liking him for the job since, as an announcer, I thought he did a really nice job.  However, the whole "this is David Lawrence the FIVE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTH speaking for The Price Is Right"...it just sounded goofy to me and it bugged me for some reason I can't explain.  Well, maybe because every time I heard it, I had flashes of Henry Polic II and that kinda scared me...:)  I acknowledge that I am quite the disturbed individual.

Steve White...hmmmmm...what can I say about someone who was so forgettable to my ear that I never have heard of him before now and don't have any recollection of any of his appearances.


As for George, I think his voice is easy on the ear...almost has an odd gentle quality at times which I seem to enjoy, I guess.  He also has a quick wit yet avoids stepping on anyone's toes when displaying it.  And ya know, for all the little old ladies out there in TV Land, Georgie boy simply has that clean-cut "boy next door" look these days that so many find to their liking.

And for the record, I was not always a George Gray fan.  In fact, I was one of those people who HATED HIS GUTS from the whole EXTREME GONG debacle.  That whole thing left such a bad taste in my mouth that, upon EG's cancellation, I was thrilled to see him gone and hoped he would never be seen or heard from again.  

But alas, this was not to be...George Gray returned from the cancellation graveyard as the host of the syndie "WEAKEST LINK"...and I must admit, after only the first few episodes, he absolutely won me over completely.  I loved loved LOVED his hosting style on WL.  Hey, I love Anne Robinson and got the whole "mean bitch from Hell" thing was all schtick and enjoyed the joke.  Unfortunately, too many others out there just didn't get it and I think that the number of viewers who refused to watch that mean old lady be cruel to those poor little innocent contestants couldn't have helped the ratings.  But George was able to take the necessary taskmaster/dominatrix attitude needed for the WL host and adapt it to yankee sensibilities.  George, at his harshest, came across as more naughty and haughty (and usually very funny) while Anne just kinda sounded mean.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is...YEA GEORGE...good going, dude...:)

Jake
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: davemackey on April 18, 2011, 06:57:10 PM
Was Jack Clark a host before he started announcing?
Get off my lawn, you little bastard. :)

/yes, Crosswits and Dealer's Choice, at least


He may or may not count, as he was one of the announcers on the original Password (IIRC, when they did shows on the Left Coast).  However he did fill-in as host, but I think he was already announcing on PW by then.

Same thing with Marc Summers (Fill-in announcer on "Bruce Forsythe's Hot Streak" just before hosting "Double Dare") in '86...
Jack Clark announced Password from the very beginning on both coasts. He did host 100 Grand prior to that.

Did they announce it on the show today?
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 18, 2011, 07:02:17 PM
Did they announce it on the show today?
Before the first Item up for Bids, yes.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Matt Ottinger on April 18, 2011, 07:19:28 PM
Was Jack Clark a host before he started announcing?
Get off my lawn, you little bastard. :)
/yes, Crosswits and Dealer's Choice, at least
No, YOU get off MY lawn!

As has been mentioned, he started as an announcer before he became a host.  Password famously, but also for Mike Wallace on Big Surprise.  I've also got him on camera as a commercial spokesperson on Down You Go.

Of course, the chicken-egg thing is tricky in some cases, depending as it so often does on how you define it.  Strictly speaking, Bill Cullen was a game show announcer before he became a game show host, but that was on the radio.  Also, some of the legends of announcing (Olson, Gilbert, Wood) also have some hosting on their resumes, but I for one don't know their timelines well enough to say for sure which was first.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: BrandonFG on April 18, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
Also, some of the legends of announcing (Olson, Gilbert, Wood) also have some hosting on their resumes, but I for one don't know their timelines well enough to say for sure which was first.
I wanna say Gilbert and Wood hosted shows first...in Gilbert's case Music Bingo and for Wood Beat the Clock, but those are both guesses.

Don't think I've heard Gray yet, but I'm happy that he's getting another gig. I liked his work on Weakest Link...hard to believe that was almost 10 years ago.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on April 18, 2011, 09:00:33 PM
George is definitely a great choice; it was, for me, down to either him of Jeff Davis, but seeing how long George has been a guest announcer, I wasn't surprised.

I'm just now noticing the new announcer's podium. Shiny- I like the classic radio mic they have up there, too.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Jimmy Owen on April 18, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
IIRC, Gene was the announcer on Narz BTC, but he did that somewhat concurrently with hosting "Anything You Can Do."  I think he also announced CBS Password from time to time.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Mr. Brown on April 18, 2011, 09:14:51 PM
I said it before and I'll say it again: I like George Gray, but he's a compromise candidate.

Simply put - Jeff Davis didn't necessarily have the best announcing chops, but they were decent, and he interacted very well with Drew, providing excellent interaction. David Lawrence, while he didn't have the screen presence of Jeff Davis, had awesome chops.

George, on the other hand, isn't a David Lawrence in regards to his announcing skills, and doesn't have the same interaction that Jeff Davis had. He's a compromise.

/There was no compromise.
//Mike Richards FTW.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: TLEberle on April 18, 2011, 09:41:43 PM
I said it before and I'll say it again: I like George Gray, but he's a compromise candidate.
I think if you look at the way the show is going, in that the announcer is no longer a guy holed up on the side of the studio who gets camera time to show off his sport jacket, but instead participates in gags and modeling the prizes, George becomes an obvious choice. Who else would do the "facepalm" after a Contestant's Row overbid?

The job no longer entails just reading words from a page, so his hiring makes sense.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: clemon79 on April 18, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
I said it before and I'll say it again: I like George Gray, but he's a compromise candidate.
The job no longer entails just reading words from a page, so his hiring makes sense.
More to the point, I fail to see why "compromise" is a bad thing, anyhow. The Los Angeles Lakers have had players who can play inside but can't shoot a three or a free throw to save their life, players who don't have the physical game needed to drive the lane, but can shoot the lights out from outside, and people who can do both ably, but not spectacularly. They've won championships with all three types.

TPiR decided they wanted someone who could talk *and* interact; they wanted flexibility. They decided that George was the most flexible of the candidates. Jeff couldn't talk, David couldn't schmooze, Sherwood was a caricature, Roberto was just a talking Ken doll, and I didn't even REMEMBER Steve White until Steve brought him up earlier in the thread. It sounds like that if the #1 sought-after trait was "best all-around," he's a pretty obvious choice.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Neumms on April 18, 2011, 10:07:07 PM
More to the point, I fail to see why "compromise" is a bad thing, anyhow.

Wasn't Rich hired as a compromise between the Randy faction (aka "people with taste and discernment") and the Burton faction?
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: BillCullen1 on April 18, 2011, 10:10:51 PM
IIRC, Gene was the announcer on Narz BTC, but he did that somewhat concurrently with hosting "Anything You Can Do."  I think he also announced CBS Password from time to time.

Yes indeed. Gene announces one of the shows on the Password BCI collection. As for George Gray, I think he's a good fit for TPIR. The fact that he's a friend of Mike Richards probably helped too.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: J.R. on April 18, 2011, 10:47:30 PM
The Los Angeles Lakers have had players who can play inside but can't shoot a three or a free throw to save their life, players who don't have the physical game needed to drive the lane, but can shoot the lights out from outside, and people who can do both ably, but not spectacularly. They've won championships with all three types.
Adam Morrison has more rings than LeBron James.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: NickS on April 18, 2011, 10:49:51 PM
So when do we start the "George as a possible replacement for Drew" thread?

/c'mon, g-r.net's probably got two of them going
//ObAnnouncer: He might be a "compromise," but I'm with Chris here - for someone that I thought made a ton of progression from EG to Weakest Link, I'm happy for him.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Mark McNeil on April 18, 2011, 11:10:19 PM
So when do we start the "George as a possible replacement for Drew" thread?

Please. No!

Congratulations, George!
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Joe Mello on April 18, 2011, 11:39:26 PM
George becomes an obvious choice. Who else would do the "facepalm" after a Contestant's Row overbid?
This happened?

/The facepalm, not the overbid.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: TLEberle on April 18, 2011, 11:42:08 PM
This happened?

/The facepalm, not the overbid.
Whenever there's an overbid, there's a cutaway shot to George, who does some sort of exasperated take, whether shaking his fist, mouthing "Come ON!", et al. "Facepalm" covers all that.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Joe Mello on April 18, 2011, 11:43:57 PM
Ah.  And now I know.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: Jumpondees on April 19, 2011, 03:51:21 AM
Ah.  And now I know.

"And knowing is half the battle!"

*Ducks*
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: tpirfan28 on April 19, 2011, 08:36:17 AM
I basically had the six announcers in two groups - the people I would prefer (David/Jeff/George) and the people I would not prefer (JD/Brad/Steve).  Good pick.
Title: TPIR - April 18
Post by: SamJ93 on April 19, 2011, 10:32:45 AM
To be fair, I saw Roberto host TPiR LIVE at Bally's in Las Vegas earlier this year, and I thought he did an excellent job.  (David Ruprecht was the announcer, who was also very good.)  So he has the chops, just maybe not as a sidekick.