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Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: weaklink75 on December 08, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
I wouldn't call it completely disasterous, but I would be a little concerned.

from PIFeedback.com (http://\"http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/871108933/p/1\")

6.95 million viewers, 1.9/5 in the 18-49's. It was 4th in the timeslot (NCIS had 11.82 million viewers for a rerun, Glee had 11.02 million for a new episode, and A Charlie Brown Christmas had 8.03 million)- one slight piece of good news is that they had about 500K more viewers than the last ep on 9/14.

Next week might be a wash competition-wise- Glee is in reruns until their post-Super Bowl episode, but NCIS has a new episode, and ABC has one of the newer Charlie Brown specials...
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: Neumms on December 08, 2010, 04:22:28 PM
[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'252209\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 02:49 PM\']I wouldn't call it completely disasterous, but I would be a little concerned.[/quote]

Our prayers will be with the Fieri family this holiday season.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: TimK2003 on December 08, 2010, 09:10:06 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'252218\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 02:22 PM\'][quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'252209\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 02:49 PM\']I wouldn't call it completely disasterous, but I would be a little concerned.[/quote]

Our prayers will be with the Fieri family this holiday season.
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Guy may have to start cutting back on the hair gel. :-(
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: Clay Zambo on December 08, 2010, 11:12:43 PM
Bad sign: I didn't even know it was back on.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: TLEberle on December 08, 2010, 11:15:48 PM
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'252242\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 08:12 PM\']Bad sign: I didn't even know it was back on.[/quote]That's ok, next week we'll find out if the challenge that was undertaken at :59 will be completed.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: Neumms on December 09, 2010, 01:01:13 PM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'252231\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 10:10 PM\']Guy may have to start cutting back on the hair gel. :-([/quote]

And the frosts and tips!
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: Joe Mello on December 09, 2010, 06:03:16 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'252258\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 01:01 PM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'252231\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 10:10 PM\']Guy may have to start cutting back on the hair gel. :-([/quote]And the frosts and tips![/quote]
Or worse.  He might have to...de-bling! D8

/threw up in my mouth a little typing that
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: TLEberle on December 09, 2010, 08:54:52 PM
The thing that bothered me the most about this episode in particular, besides all the other reasons to completely loathe it, were that they appended the two ludicrous money amounts on the top (11 for $2m, 12 for $3m) and the way that they handled the bonus gifts.

If I was going to add stuff like extra lives, bonus time and that sort of thing, I would allow the contestants to play for the various bonus items in exchange for the money amount at that particular level. Or have an extra quick game where you wouldn't lose progress in the main game if you failed. Something other than "Here's what we hope is the impetus for you to risk absurd amounts of money to chase a pipe dream!"
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: mxc0427 on December 09, 2010, 10:38:22 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'252279\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 08:54 PM\']The thing that bothered me the most about this episode in particular, besides all the other reasons to completely loathe it, were that they appended the two ludicrous money amounts on the top (11 for $2m, 12 for $3m) and the way that they handled the bonus gifts.

If I was going to add stuff like extra lives, bonus time and that sort of thing, I would allow the contestants to play for the various bonus items in exchange for the money amount at that particular level. Or have an extra quick game where you wouldn't lose progress in the main game if you failed. Something other than "Here's what we hope is the impetus for you to risk absurd amounts of money to chase a pipe dream!"[/quote]

Well, at least Levels 10, 11 and 12 are all bankable. So you have essentially free shots at winning $2 Mil and $3 Mil. As for the gifts, I didn't mind the way they handled them. Money AND a bonus, versus giving up money for a bonus gift? I like both, please :)
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: TLEberle on December 09, 2010, 10:43:47 PM
[quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'252284\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 07:38 PM\']Well, at least Levels 10, 11 and 12 are all bankable.[/quote]That makes even less sense, then.

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Money AND a bonus, versus giving up money for a bonus gift? I like both, please :)
Right, but I don't think that's quite as interesting. If you made the $10,000 and $125,000 games the "bonus" rounds, and gave your players the option, I think that makes the decision interesting. "Here! Have an extra life! How about some more time!" Blech.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: mxc0427 on December 09, 2010, 10:47:53 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'252286\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 10:43 PM\']Right, but I don't think that's quite as interesting. If you made the $10,000 and $125,000 games the "bonus" rounds, and gave your players the option, I think that makes the decision interesting. "Here! Have an extra life! How about some more time!" Blech.[/quote]

That would be interesting. Seeing is that the next level after each is a safe level, give me those lives then!
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: TLEberle on December 09, 2010, 10:51:55 PM
By which the option is playing for the extra gadget or the money for that rung. You wouldn't get $10k and the help.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: mxc0427 on December 09, 2010, 10:54:59 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'252288\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 10:51 PM\']By which the option is playing for the extra gadget or the money for that rung. You wouldn't get $10k and the help.[/quote]
I know some versions of "Millionaire" allow you to remove your second safe haven, in exchange for a 4th lifeline. MTWI could easily implement that.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: TLEberle on December 09, 2010, 10:58:11 PM
[quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'252289\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 07:54 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'252288\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 10:51 PM\']By which the option is playing for the extra gadget or the money for that rung. You wouldn't get $10k and the help.[/quote]I know some versions of "Millionaire" allow you to remove your second safe haven, in exchange for a 4th lifeline. MTWI could easily implement that.[/quote]They could be doing a whole bunch of things, and not just money tree, lives, and the other litany of ways that you can tell Minute is a prime time game show. But they don't.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: DoorNumberFour on December 09, 2010, 11:46:11 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'252290\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 10:58 PM\'][quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'252289\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 07:54 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'252288\' date=\'Dec 9 2010, 10:51 PM\']By which the option is playing for the extra gadget or the money for that rung. You wouldn't get $10k and the help.[/quote]I know some versions of "Millionaire" allow you to remove your second safe haven, in exchange for a 4th lifeline. MTWI could easily implement that.[/quote]They could be doing a whole bunch of things, and not just money tree, lives, and the other litany of ways that you can tell Minute is a prime time game show. But they don't.
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No, no, no, not game show. "Competition series".
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: J.R. on December 10, 2010, 12:22:01 AM
I've always wondered if all the "extra" elements (The melodrama, the sob-story subplots, etc) is out of network's fear that the general public still thinks all game shows are the Wink Martindale/Shag Carpet/Chintzy Production stereotype thus the need to show them as something more than just a game?

I've seen "modern" game shows listed on network sites as "reality" as well.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: TLEberle on December 10, 2010, 12:26:50 AM
Jeopardy gives us a 30 second glimpse into the lives of the players. Millionaire gives you more, but stretched out, and there's just the one participant, so you can focus on that one person. Note that on the Ten to One episodes of Minute that there wasn't all that much in the way of the prime time game show-ness that you found elsewhere, and only when you got down to the last few did that sort of stuff emerge.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: Sodboy13 on December 10, 2010, 07:53:55 PM
Whenever I see all the unnecessary aww-shucks boo-hoo narrative padding that overruns so many American prime-time game shows, well, first, I change the channel.  But then I'm reminded of when I auditioned for Million Dollar Password.  A production assistant was giving us all a bit of intro before our initial round of testing, and it stuck in my brain that he danced around the word "contestant," preferring to refer to contestants as "the people we build into characters."

Obviusly, he was drinking the Kool-Aid, and so are plenty of others.
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: TLEberle on December 10, 2010, 09:31:13 PM
[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'252308\' date=\'Dec 10 2010, 04:53 PM\']A production assistant was giving us all a bit of intro before our initial round of testing, and it stuck in my brain that he danced around the word "contestant," preferring to refer to contestants as "the people we build into characters."[/quote]Password seems like the one show that needed that sort of thing the least, and truly had the least amount of time for the sort of story building that replaces game play these days. (After all, if someone is going to play the money round three times and stop with $50,000; do I really need to know his deepest secrets? Not really.)
Title: MTWI ratings...
Post by: trainman on December 11, 2010, 12:08:36 AM
[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'252308\' date=\'Dec 10 2010, 04:53 PM\']A production assistant was giving us all a bit of intro before our initial round of testing, and it stuck in my brain that he danced around the word "contestant," preferring to refer to contestants as "the people we build into characters."[/quote]

I've done the live "Jeopardy!" auditions several times, and auditioned for a couple of other game shows.  At "Jeopardy!", the terminology they used was "picking contestants."  At the other shows, the terminology was "casting."