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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: saussage on November 17, 2010, 11:15:47 PM
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I've been watching GSN less and less for a while. I'm sure I'm not alone doing this. As well, I've also noticed the GSN forums not exactly hopping with excitement. Is this a trend? I've seen the best and the worst of GSN. Here's my quick summary of the past 10 years:
1) Started to watch just after the dark period was over, all the content even though was "classic", it was fresh and different for me. I was glued day and night. repeats sucked but lived with it.
2) GSN wanted to get into reality TV and gambling. Therefore, a fresh new logo and name was also in need. Goodbye Game Show Network. Goodbye to most classic game shows and say hello to newish and original content. Some shows are ok, others were like "what were they thinking?" (Naturally Stoned anyone?).
3) Today, most shows are relatively new and not so classic. Some have also went into repeat syndrome and help drive ratings to the ground too. How much dond do we need to watch?
Now 10 years later, I watch GSN about 5 hours/week. A far cry from the 25+ hours I did 10 years ago. I actually watch card games on GSN and that's about it. I'll turn on GameTV for my classics itch (and youtube or similar places with internet media-rich content I can get my hands on which wasn't available 10 years ago). GSN is losing an audience but I don't think they're gaining a new one. Maybe GSN has "jumped the shark". There's just too many other good options to choose from or some people have watched their fill of game shows and now doing something else with their lives. Are you watching GSN? What do you like? (eg: Family Feud O'Hurley) What do you miss? (eg: Inquisition) what do you hate? Or, what have you been watching elsewhere to fill the void? (eg: new Video and audio clips from this forum).
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At least over the next month GSN will have a few things worth watching with the Wheel marathon on Black Friday and the just announced weeks worth of What's My Line? and I've Got A Secret during the week of December 13th.
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Like I've said in another thread, I've moved on. I don't need GSN anymore.
But no matter what how hard GSN tries to become the DOND network, to me, the G-T library is the most diverse game show library in existence, now and forever.
But truth be told, the only things I wish GSN would get as of right now would be the remaining episodes of Press Your Luck (I'm sick to death of the ones that have been shown so far) and Super Password (I was all set to resume work on my episode guide for that show, when suddenly, it was completely yanked. Now I don't know if I will ever finish it in my lifetime, especially given the way they now lease for G-T shows). I don't wanna come off as spoiled and greedy.
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Am I the only one who wishes the term "Dark Period" be retired?
I don't think it's offensive or anything. I just think it's dated.
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I've watched exactly 30 minutes of GSN this month. When we first got GSN back in '97, I would watch four-five hours a day and tape overnight. Most modern game shows don't hold my interest. TPiR and Cash Cab are exceptions.
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I actually watched for the first time in a while, for MG74 and used to watch the overnight Pyramid hour earlier in the year. Other than that, GSN's amateurish ways have turned me away. I can get my fix from Youtube or sites like the Game Show Vault, and even then I don't sit through full episodes like I used to. Maybe it's because these shows aren't as rare anymore, who knows? The last time it was really good was around 2003, a nice mix of old and new games.
However, the last five years have given me a pretty sour view of this genre, not just GSN.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'251145\' date=\'Nov 18 2010, 12:54 AM\']However, the last five years have given me a pretty sour view of this genre, not just GSN.[/quote]
Good to know I'm not the only one who thinks that. Everytime I try to watch a game show from today, it just comes off as forced, and lacks the charm of the game shows from the past.
Now I'm not one to say that anything before the mid-1990s is good right-off-the-bat, but I get the feeling that back then, especially in the 80's, game shows had more of a relaxed, laid back atmosphere, where they weren't afraid to have fun, and be a little goofy at times. Nowadays, it's rushed and forced.
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I watched the first bit of GSN I've watched in a very long time when me and the GF decided to give the new 1 vs. 100 a shot.
The likelihood of that number remaining "30 minutes" for the month is high.
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If anytime in the history of the network should be considered the "dark period" it is now. 1997-98 were heaven compared to the current state of the network.
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GSN was a nice escape from reality for many years. Now, it too has become "part" of reality so to speak. Try to "DoND" me all you want, but it just won't fly with me. Before Comcast dumped the analog feed off my line-up in 2008, I could watch at least 5-6 hours a day, now I'm lucky if I see it 5-6 hours a MONTH!
The best part were the classics from my lifetime(late 1960's- 1980's). The thing I miss most was the truvia games like Super Decades & Trivia Track. Those were the good ol' days of GSN. The one thing I truly hate were the time compressions & the tedious promos for DoND. If I want my "classic" game show fix, YT's the place for me untill 2011 when the Game Show Vault will soon enter my surfing picture.
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YT's the place for me untill 2011 when the Game Show Vault will soon enter my surfing picture.
Game Show Vault has been open for a while now. You're missing out on the Thanksgiving Viewers Choice voting which ends in 2 days, too. :-P
Back to the thread subject, I haven't watched GSN since The Money List was cancelled. In fact I no longer even have it; since GSN is part of the sports tier here, I cancelled it to save the money. Based on the current programming schedule, I doubt I'll be reinstating it on my cable lineup anytime soon.
--Jamie
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Am I the only one who wishes the term "Dark Period" be retired?
I don't think it's offensive or anything. I just think it's dated.
Who invented that term anyway? I never liked it. To me, '97-98 was the one time we got to see some of the rarer shows in GSN's library - stuff like Break the Bank, $20,000 Pyramid, Go, Treasure Hunt, Hollywood Connection, etc. Without that six-month period, I doubt that GSN ever would have aired those shows on the regular schedule.
I agree that these once treasured GT shows aren't that rare anymore, and maybe after a while we'll get tired of watching them, but there are still thousands of shows in GSN's vault that they have never aired, and seemingly never will now. It always disappointed me that they couldn't have shown a more diverse lineup once the so-called "dark period" ended and at least run through everything once. They could have aired Goodson-Todman during the week, and more shorter-run Barry-Enright and Barris shows on weekends, rather than taking off a series a third of the way through and never airing it again. It was also exciting when they picked up additional libraries, such as when Bob Stewart's shows joined the network for the first time.
If you look at the overall history of GSN, the stuff they have aired has been great. I enjoyed watching it from 1994-2004, but I've moved on. I'll always be interested in their new shows - I'm looking forward to seeing 1 vs 100 at some point - but it's just too bad there can't be a permanent home for classic game shows in a 500-channel universe.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'251169\' date=\'Nov 18 2010, 11:30 AM\']Who invented that term anyway?[/quote]IIRC, there was an old Usenet poster (he also had a webpage) that had a poem about "Mr. Hostman" bringing back "Goodson-Todmoan on GSN Teevee". I want to say it was James Fabiano...but I could be wrong.
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I'm not a fan of today's game shows. I like the genre, just not the way they are making them these days. If it were Westerns, I'd still be a fan of Gene Autry but not Deadwood.
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If I'm home at 9 AM on a weekend I'll have Squares on if I remember. That's it. Nothing else that is on while I'm home and awake interests me. But honestly, "TV on as noise" has really gone down for me in the past year, whether it's game shows or other programming.
Although, the one episode I caught of Newlywed Game by accident, Sherri Shepherd really works for that show. Not that I would make a habit out of watching it, but it is the right fit for those who would watch.
--Mike
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Speaking of the "Dark Period", would anyone out there have a copy of the GSN's '97-'98 "Dark Period" schedule? I can't seem to find it online.
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My prediction in the next 5-10 years, technology will be moving towards more "on-demand" programming. On-demand programming, as it is today, is equivilent to what Compact Discs were in the mid-80's: It's still in it's infancy. And for the moment, it's pretty much the most popular titles that are getting to the top of the list when it comes to On-Demand availability.
Over time, niche programming such as classic game shows of the 80's and before (G-T & otherwise) will be more available on some sort of instant-watchable mediums (Hulu, Netflix, etc...) where these programs will be made available to a pay-based or free-with-commercial-interruption audience. And as the A-listed programming gets converted into these formats, they will start to work on older, "niche" programming as the time and the money allows.
I think it will be a safe prediction that by 2035, nearly every TV program that is still in existence will be available in some sort of "on-demand" format, and those who currently keep these shows hostage for lucrative contracts will realize that this will be the better long-term strategy for making the most profit on their goods.
Until then, embrace what is out there now...It will only get better!
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'251155\' date=\'Nov 18 2010, 02:28 AM\']GSN was a nice escape from reality for many years.[/quote]
Apparently, you've never returned.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'251184\' date=\'Nov 18 2010, 02:57 PM\'][quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'251155\' date=\'Nov 18 2010, 02:28 AM\']GSN was a nice escape from reality for many years.[/quote]
Apparently, you've never returned.
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Hi-Yo!
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'251183\' date=\'Nov 18 2010, 12:29 PM\']I think it will be a safe prediction that by 2035, nearly every TV program that is still in existence will be available in some sort of "on-demand" format, and those who currently keep these shows hostage for lucrative contracts will realize that this will be the better long-term strategy for making the most profit on their goods.[/quote]
It'd require one heck of a paradigm shift for most corporations to be interested in long-term anything within the next 25 years.
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[quote name=\'GrandGame1440\' post=\'251150\' date=\'Nov 18 2010, 01:18 AM\']If anytime in the history of the network should be considered the "dark period" it is now. 1997-98 were heaven compared to the current state of the network.[/quote]
I never understood that term as well, considering there were still a few G-T games there, including classic TPiR. That was right around the time that I first saw GSN (early-1998), and I fell in love with even the rare obscure shows. Between 1998-99 (and parts of 2000), I loved going into department stores and sneaking around to switch to GSN. It only got better once I got my license. ;-)
/Even better when we finally got GSN on digital cable in summer 2002
//Those were the days
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Eh. The channel is getting a bit stale, but I do enjoy Pyramid still and grabbing the occasional Regis Millionaire.
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If I may chime in:
I first heard of GSN since its inception, and I wanted my cable system to get it soooooo badly! I got real jealous of GS fans posting clips of Match Game and other G-T and B-E shows on the internet and I could only reminisce of the good old GS days through 15-30 second audio and (sometimes) video clips.
Anyway, after several years of torture, I finally was able to get regular cable and then, digital cable which had GSN included in its package. October 15, 1999 was when I saw GSN for the first time, and I was in hog heaven, and my VCR was taping a lot of eps of various shows. Anyway, this was right before they did the split screen GSN promos and the time compression speed ups. Long story short, I had quite a few VHS tapes of various game shows (and I still have them btw). After about 9 months I temporarily gave up cable for about 2 1/2 years because I moved out of the apartment I shared with a roommate into my own home and because I later enrolled in graduate school. In the fall of '02 I got cable again and got my GSN fill. I also was a regular poster at the GSN message boards, but after about 2 years I got tired of all the whining from the posters and left there, though I did play my share of GSN playalong games which were rather cool.
The rebranding of GSN was killing my interest in the network and by the summer of 2005, I had found GSN to be MORE than a bit stale. Then again, I found television as a whole to be 90% BS and not worth watching. So on (or around) September 14, 2005, I disconnected my cable and actually retired from watching TV in favor of the internet.
By this time, Youtube was beginning to rise in popularity and with it came tv shows and game shows I had either never seen before or haven't seen in 20-30 years. So pretty much whatever game show scenarios I was interested in seeing, I saw it on Youtube. In short, my fill of game shows has been pretty much satisfied; I really don't need GSN anymore, though I had a great time watching it when I did need it.
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For a while, I was watching Super Password, Now You See It, 1995 episodes of Wheel, Tic Tac Dough, etc. And that was only a couple years ago. Then Charter moved GSN off basic cable and I didn't see the network for a while. Now I finally have it back and all I'm seeing is bland "modern" shows like Millionaire, DoND, Flannel Feud; banal trash like Baggage and Newlywed; the same Lingo, Match Game and $25KP episodes I've already seen 9001 times; and the tolerable-enough Catch 21.
Seriously, what the hell happened?
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'251143\' date=\'Nov 17 2010, 09:24 PM\']Am I the only one who wishes the term "Dark Period" be retired?
I don't think it's offensive or anything. I just think it's dated.[/quote]Not exactly retired, because I think the particular kind of person who would use such a phrase should be easy to identify. My life is not so wrapped up in game shows that I would call a time frame where the network doesn't do exactly what I want a "Dark Period," especially since we don't get to see those "off the board" shows much anymore.
If you don't like what GSN is showing anymore (and looking at the schedule, there isn't a whole lot to love) then don't watch. GSN is trying to make money by showing what regular ol' folk like, not we geeks.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'251293\' date=\'Nov 20 2010, 03:12 PM\'][quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'251143\' date=\'Nov 17 2010, 09:24 PM\']Am I the only one who wishes the term "Dark Period" be retired?
I don't think it's offensive or anything. I just think it's dated.[/quote]Not exactly retired, because I think the particular kind of person who would use such a phrase should be easy to identify. My life is not so wrapped up in game shows that I would call a time frame where the network doesn't do exactly what I want a "Dark Period," especially since we don't get to see those "off the board" shows much anymore.
If you don't like what GSN is showing anymore (and looking at the schedule, there isn't a whole lot to love) then don't watch. GSN is trying to make money by showing what regular ol' folk like, not we geeks.
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This thread comes at a time when GSN appears to be doing well. I don't think there has been a time when in its history when they have had more returning shows on the schedule at the same time ('Catch 21', 'Baggage' and 'Newlywed Game'). '1 vs 100' may make it four.
I don't blame the network for cutting down on the classics as much as they have in favor of programing from the last five to ten years. They are simply moving ahead with the times.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'251294\' date=\'Nov 20 2010, 03:31 PM\']I don't think there has been a time when in its history when they have had more returning shows on the schedule at the same time ('Catch 21', 'Baggage' and 'Newlywed Game'). '1 vs 100' may make it four.[/quote]Not surprisingly, you would be wrong. "Friend or Foe", "Russian Roulette", "Whammy!", "Lingo" all got renewed for second seasons. 1 vs. 100 isn't a guarantee yet.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'251312\' date=\'Nov 20 2010, 06:14 PM\'][quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'251294\' date=\'Nov 20 2010, 03:31 PM\']I don't think there has been a time when in its history when they have had more returning shows on the schedule at the same time ('Catch 21', 'Baggage' and 'Newlywed Game'). '1 vs 100' may make it four.[/quote]Not surprisingly, you would be wrong. "Friend or Foe", "Russian Roulette", "Whammy!", "Lingo" all got renewed for second seasons. 1 vs. 100 isn't a guarantee yet.
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I didn't know about 'Friend Or Foe'. At the time I was mainly watching the network for the classics of which there were many at the time.
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I don't watch as much as I used to. I had watched to flashback to my youth, and catch episodes I have missed of some of my favorite shows due to my educational commitments. Now that many of those shows are gone, so have I.
I will admit that I am giving the new 1v100 a try and am enjoying it, but the show may not last more that 40 episodes if they don't take first run eps out of the 7pm Wheel/J! slot.
Now I can always hope the old shows come back, but in reality that is not going to happen. What would bring me back more is if they would get the rights to air some of the good international versions of shows we have to resort to watching on Youtube.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'251294\' date=\'Nov 20 2010, 03:31 PM\']This thread comes at a time when GSN appears to be doing well. I don't think there has been a time when in its history when they have had more returning shows on the schedule at the same time ('Catch 21', 'Baggage' and 'Newlywed Game'). '1 vs 100' may make it four.
I don't blame the network for cutting down on the classics as much as they have in favor of programing from the last five to ten years. They are simply moving ahead with the times.[/quote]
I don't mind new shows (the last Newlywed imo was better to watch then this re-incarnation) and Lingo, Inquisition, and High Stakes poker were all GSN branded shows that don't seem to be bland at all and seem to be moving ahead with the times. Catch 21 is weak and would need a bit of a format change before I get interested in a regular basis (since I believe the host is not the weak spot). However, the new Newlywed, and Baggage seem to be moving GSN into an area where ratings may be high but it's hovering towards trash TV (or more like raunchy which drives up the ratings). I'm just waiting for a Maury Povich commercial stating his new game show on GSN: "Who is the father".
Certain classics have high ratings no matter what since the show's content is of good quality. However, run them down to the ground and even good classics don't have a chance to last. I see classics leaving GSN for one reason: GSN doesn't want to fork over $$ to show them. Why pay for shows if you can create them yourself? They wanted to remove classics ever since the name change. If GSN had enough of their own home grown content in their library to run 24/7 without running those series down to the ground, they would and all the other shows they could air from other libraries would gather dust.
GSN wants to be "The Network for their Games". Maybe one if these days, GSN could also have a view on demand feature. I think that requires serious $$ so even if it's a good idea and it would make everyone happy, I think it wouldn't fly.
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[quote name=\'saussage\' post=\'251363\' date=\'Nov 21 2010, 08:33 PM\']I'm just waiting for a Maury Povich commercial stating his new game show on GSN: "Who is the father".[/quote]
[Bzzz.] The title would be "You ARE the Father!" with a catch phrase sure to sweep the nation: "Shoulda wore a jimmy hat."
The only thing I watch nowadays is Dawson Feud, the occasional Hollywood Squares, and the new 1 v. 100.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'251412\' date=\'Nov 22 2010, 09:53 AM\'][quote name=\'saussage\' post=\'251363\' date=\'Nov 21 2010, 08:33 PM\']I'm just waiting for a Maury Povich commercial stating his new game show on GSN: "Who is the father".[/quote]
[Bzzz.] The title would be "You ARE the Father!" with a catch phrase sure to sweep the nation: "Shoulda wore a jimmy hat."
The only thing I watch nowadays is Dawson Feud, the occasional Hollywood Squares, and the new 1 v. 100.
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The only thing I am watching is the new 1 vs 100. As others have stated, the same repeats of the classic game shows are
aired over and over (ex: the first six months of the Clark Pyramid from 1982), and I am not interested in shows like
Baggage.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'251412\' date=\'Nov 22 2010, 06:53 AM\'][Bzzz.] The title would be "You ARE the Father!" with a catch phrase sure to sweep the nation: "Shoulda wore a jimmy hat."[/quote]
Goes nowhere without his jim-hat (http://\"http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9936/humptysamesong.jpg\")
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I have watched The Network For Games exactly once during the year 2010.
If it wasn't for ESPN-U and ESPN Classic, I'd have scuttled the digital tier many months ago from my cable service.
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When I was a kid, I loved arcade games. (Who am I kidding--I still do...) I would drop everything if I saw an arcade cabinet somewhere and start begging my mom for a quarter.
We used to fly to Florida every year at spring break to visit Grandma. And every year, we'd arrive at the airport, check in with the skycap, and walk up the long ramp toward the security checkpoint. And the Kent County International Airport had, in addition to a bar and restaurant and gift shop and observation deck, its own video arcade. Every time we went up there, my brother and I would go tearing off for this arcade while waiting for our flight to leave.
And in a time when arcades were stocked with games like Zaxxon, Frogger, Ms. Pac-Man, and the like, the KCIA arcade had Night Driving, Pong, and other such monochrome games that even an Atari system would laugh at as being primitive. The selection was crap, the presentation was crap (they were all mounted in ugly generic cabinets), everything about it was crap. It was an arcade, yes, but I never wanted to play anything in that room. And they never bothered improving it, because--let's face it, where else are ya gonna go for video games, kid? You're stuck at the airport; you wanna play video games, you'll play the crap we chose for you.
That's pretty much how I feel about GSN nowadays. The selection is crap, the presentation is crap, everything about it is crap. It's a channel for game shows, yes, but I never want to watch anything on it. And they never bother improving it, because--let's face it, where else are ya gonna go for game shows, kid? You're stuck with us; you wanna watch game shows, you'll watch the crap we choose for you.
So I don't. Unless I'm missing something, I believe the last thing I watched on GSN was "What's My Line?", back when they were running it every night at 3am.
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The last time I watched GSN on a consistent basis was 2005 or so; since then, I've been wrapped up in college stuff, work, or whatever else. So for me, life happened, and GSN kept moving down the totem pole. That being said, I do think that they have a good crop of originals for the first time since 2002 or 2003.
For GSN, I think mornings and afternoons should be a healthy mix of classic from all decades. Why? Because game shows are a nostalgia kick for most people, whether they're fans or innocent bystanders. You watched them when you were sick, Grandma might have had them on, and the theme songs stay stuck in your head whether you like them or not. I even know people who'll watch a couple episodes of whatever show is on with me because they get a kick out of how people used to look "back in the day".
We yell at the TV, we cheer, we laugh at stupid answers and show our friends how smart or stupid we are; game shows as a whole are a versatile genre of programming, and looking at the GSN schedule, I don't think that's represented. I'm not really keen on them giving high replay to post 2000 shows; should they be on the schedule? Yes, but not in this capacity. They're doing to these shows what they did to Dawson Feud and Match Game as late as 2007 or 2008; running them into the ground by overplaying them. At least with older shows, you can get a kick out of seeing old favorites; by overplaying new stuff, I thought people would have a more negative reaction to shows they're already saying "meh" about in the first place. Shows like Beat The Clock 79 and Trebek Double Dare could have made for decent morning/afternoon fare, but got relegated to post-midnight duty.
So to answer the original question- yes, GSN has gotten stale, but considering the programming, it's worse than ever.
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[quote name=\'bscripps\' post=\'251908\' date=\'Nov 30 2010, 09:47 AM\']The selection was crap, the presentation was crap (they were all mounted in ugly generic cabinets), everything about it was crap. It was an arcade, yes, but I never wanted to play anything in that room. And they never bothered improving it, because--let's face it, where else are ya gonna go for video games, kid? You're stuck at the airport; you wanna play video games, you'll play the crap we chose for you.[/quote]
They were doing you a damn favor. I would *kill* to see that room today. :)
/get the fark off of my lawn
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'251911\' date=\'Nov 30 2010, 01:00 PM\'][quote name=\'bscripps\' post=\'251908\' date=\'Nov 30 2010, 09:47 AM\']The selection was crap, the presentation was crap (they were all mounted in ugly generic cabinets), everything about it was crap. It was an arcade, yes, but I never wanted to play anything in that room. And they never bothered improving it, because--let's face it, where else are ya gonna go for video games, kid? You're stuck at the airport; you wanna play video games, you'll play the crap we chose for you.[/quote]
They were doing you a damn favor. I would *kill* to see that room today. :)
/get the fark off of my lawn
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An arcade in an airport? There's a foreign concept (at least, to me....I was born in 87, so arcades were in their last few golden years when I started investing my quarters). Lucky you.
Considering how layovers and delays are the norm nowadays, an airport arcade would be welcomed with open arms..it 's not like your airport could use a fourth Cinnabon.
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[quote name=\'Jeremy Nelson\' post=\'251957\' date=\'Dec 1 2010, 02:14 PM\']Considering how layovers and delays are the norm nowadays, an airport arcade would be welcomed with open arms..it 's not like your airport could use a fourth Cinnabon.[/quote]
Arcades need to be kept up. Most remaining places with cabinets are in poor shape since all people want to do is run the machines down to the ground gathering every last quarter they can get. They have control issues, eating quarters, bad burn in etc. Compared to arcade games, how much upkeep does a concession stand or fast food joint need? As long as you can feed your public I guess. If I can't play, I might as well eat :) The only upkeep I need to worry about is my belly :)
GSN needs to realize who they're targeting as an audience and direct quality programming to that audience. Give the public good arcades games to play and people will play. Give viewers good shows to watch and people will watch. Dond's days are numbered if they keep playing it as often as they do now. People will get bored. I can only play Pac-Man for so long :)
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[quote name=\'Jeremy Nelson\' post=\'251957\' date=\'Dec 1 2010, 11:14 AM\']An arcade in an airport? There's a foreign concept...[/quote]
Literally. Last year, I got rid of almost all of my Australian coins playing The Simpsons pinball in the arcade in the Melbourne airport, on my way back to the U.S.
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Y'know, I was thinking arcades in airports are an odd offering, until I had to remember that Norfolk International had a fairly nice-sized arcade up until about 10 years ago, when they underwent a massive renovation. From what I remember, the games were fairly modern (maybe early-to-mid-90s at the newest), but there was an old-school basketball shootout game. I just remember a half-burned-out eggcrate display and the chain-link basketball net. Well, that and spending several quarters trying to score 40 points to get a free game. :-)
/My highest was 37
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'251980\' date=\'Dec 1 2010, 08:19 PM\']/My highest was 37[/quote]In a row?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'251981\' date=\'Dec 1 2010, 08:36 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'251980\' date=\'Dec 1 2010, 08:19 PM\']/My highest was 37[/quote]In a row?
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Will try not to make it 38 on the way to the parking lot (http://\"http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/CLERKS_10TH-2_1093897124.jpg\")
/hey
//you
///get back here
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[quote name=\'Jeremy Nelson\' post=\'251910\' date=\'Nov 30 2010, 10:59 AM\']I even know people who'll watch a couple episodes of whatever show is on with me because they get a kick out of how people used to look "back in the day".[/quote]I'll grab episodes of Card Sharks because I enjoy watching Jim Perry work, and one of the questions on an episode from today pertained to President Carter's decisions in dealing with Red China.
If THAT doesn't date your show, then nothing will.
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[quote name=\'saussage\' post=\'251969\' date=\'Dec 1 2010, 08:09 PM\']People will get bored. I can only play Pac-Man for so long :)[/quote]
I beg to differ. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man_Championship_Edition_DX\") Seriously, if it didn't require a dedicated Xbox 360 and tv, I'd make a cabinet out of this version, pronto.
It's kinda sad to see that "arcades" have become empty mall storefronts that consist of a half empty claw machine, a solitary Cruis'n World cabinet, a temporary tattoo dispenser, and an "electronic carny" (one of those machines that contains pretty decent merchandise that only one out of every 300 or so people win). That is the full inventory at the mall near my school.
Some of the games on XBLA/PSN would work well as new arcade cabinets. I know it's mainly a cost issue, but I think the advent of massive online gaming is what will keep the arcade from ever being a viable investment again.
Oh well- at least there's Dave and Buster's.
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[quote name=\'Jeremy Nelson\' post=\'252210\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 11:39 AM\']I beg to differ. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man_Championship_Edition_DX\") Seriously, if it didn't require a dedicated Xbox 360 and tv, I'd make a cabinet out of this version, pronto.[/quote]
QFT. I've been playing this one for the last week and a half, despite there being a new track pack out for Trials HD. How satisfying is it to mow down dozens of ghosts on a single* energizer cycle?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'252211\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 01:55 PM\'][quote name=\'Jeremy Nelson\' post=\'252210\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 11:39 AM\']I beg to differ. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man_Championship_Edition_DX\") Seriously, if it didn't require a dedicated Xbox 360 and tv, I'd make a cabinet out of this version, pronto.[/quote]
QFT. I've been playing this one for the last week and a half, despite there being a new track pack out for Trials HD. How satisfying is it to mow down dozens of ghosts on a single* energizer cycle?
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Very... I went back to the original Pac Man CE to compare the two, and the energizer stringing in that version feels so empty now. I think that this kind of controlled chaos is what I've been waiting to see with Pac Man for some time...careening around corners on 50 speed with ghosts chasing you is so.....perfect.
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[quote name=\'Jeremy Nelson\' post=\'252237\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 07:53 PM\']Very... I went back to the original Pac Man CE to compare the two, and the energizer stringing in that version feels so empty now.[/quote]
I didn't play the original a whole lot, but it's funny that Championship I is my *least* favorite map in the new game, *because* the energizers are so plentiful.
/all about Highway
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[quote name=\'saussage\' post=\'251139\' date=\'Nov 17 2010, 11:15 PM\']I've been watching GSN less and less for a while. I'm sure I'm not alone doing this. As well, I've also noticed the GSN forums not exactly hopping with excitement. Is this a trend? I've seen the best and the worst of GSN. Here's my quick summary of the past 10 years:
1) Started to watch just after the dark period was over, all the content even though was "classic", it was fresh and different for me. I was glued day and night. repeats sucked but lived with it.
2) GSN wanted to get into reality TV and gambling. Therefore, a fresh new logo and name was also in need. Goodbye Game Show Network. Goodbye to most classic game shows and say hello to newish and original content. Some shows are ok, others were like "what were they thinking?" (Naturally Stoned anyone?).
3) Today, most shows are relatively new and not so classic. Some have also went into repeat syndrome and help drive ratings to the ground too. How much dond do we need to watch?
Now 10 years later, I watch GSN about 5 hours/week. A far cry from the 25+ hours I did 10 years ago. I actually watch card games on GSN and that's about it. I'll turn on GameTV for my classics itch (and youtube or similar places with internet media-rich content I can get my hands on which wasn't available 10 years ago). GSN is losing an audience but I don't think they're gaining a new one. Maybe GSN has "jumped the shark". There's just too many other good options to choose from or some people have watched their fill of game shows and now doing something else with their lives. Are you watching GSN? What do you like? (eg: Family Feud O'Hurley) What do you miss? (eg: Inquisition) what do you hate? Or, what have you been watching elsewhere to fill the void? (eg: new Video and audio clips from this forum).[/quote]
Ever since they lost the good shows, I never saw GSN again and I don't believe that they're going anywhere. And not only that, I never saw Naturally Stoned.
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[quote name=\'Jeremy Nelson\' post=\'251910\' date=\'Nov 30 2010, 01:59 PM\']The last time I watched GSN on a consistent basis was 2005 or so; since then, I've been wrapped up in college stuff, work, or whatever else. So for me, life happened, and GSN kept moving down the totem pole. That being said, I do think that they have a good crop of originals for the first time since 2002 or 2003.
For GSN, I think mornings and afternoons should be a healthy mix of classic from all decades. Why? Because game shows are a nostalgia kick for most people, whether they're fans or innocent bystanders. You watched them when you were sick, Grandma might have had them on, and the theme songs stay stuck in your head whether you like them or not. I even know people who'll watch a couple episodes of whatever show is on with me because they get a kick out of how people used to look "back in the day".
We yell at the TV, we cheer, we laugh at stupid answers and show our friends how smart or stupid we are; game shows as a whole are a versatile genre of programming, and looking at the GSN schedule, I don't think that's represented. I'm not really keen on them giving high replay to post 2000 shows; should they be on the schedule? Yes, but not in this capacity. They're doing to these shows what they did to Dawson Feud and Match Game as late as 2007 or 2008; running them into the ground by overplaying them. At least with older shows, you can get a kick out of seeing old favorites; by overplaying new stuff, I thought people would have a more negative reaction to shows they're already saying "meh" about in the first place. Shows like Beat The Clock 79 and Trebek Double Dare could have made for decent morning/afternoon fare, but got relegated to post-midnight duty.
So to answer the original question- yes, GSN has gotten stale, but considering the programming, it's worse than ever.[/quote]
It is, it really is. Deal Or No Deal 4 times in a day will never be an 'old favorite'.
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[quote name=\'Jeremy Nelson\' post=\'252210\' date=\'Dec 8 2010, 12:39 PM\']It's kinda sad to see that "arcades" have become empty mall storefronts that consist of a half empty claw machine, a solitary Cruis'n World cabinet, a temporary tattoo dispenser, and an "electronic carny" (one of those machines that contains pretty decent merchandise that only one out of every 300 or so people win). That is the full inventory at the mall near my school.[/quote]
I gotta say, though, Coloado is very much a pinball-friendly state. There is one pizza place not too far away with 4 machines, with another in a bar across the street. And even in a hick town with a population of less than 250 in the town proper, their only little grocery store has a pristine Wheel of Fortune pinball sitting in the corner.
Not to mention the annual Pinball convention in Denver each April!