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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: TimK2003 on October 27, 2010, 06:42:55 PM
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For any given celebrity-based game show, who would you nominate as THE most obnoxious celebrity that ever graced that show.
For Starters:
Match Game '98: Judy Tenuta (and her squeeze box -- 'nuff said).
Hollywood Squares (Marshall): Jonathan Winters. Going into drawn out "character-ized" responses in nearly every question got old fast, as some have mentioned in other threads.
Nearly Every Bob Stewart show with Celebrities: Nipsey Russell. An opening poem, sometimes a closing poem, and occasionally a mid-game poem he gets to sneak in x5 shows a week. Yes, he was billed as Poet Laureate(sp?) and he rarely repeated any poems, but there were times it was overdone.
Others?
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Probably Arte Johnson on "Hot Potato." I'd never seen Bill Cullen get annoyed before.
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Match Game 7x and 90: Fred Travalena. Felt compelled to do an impression practically every time he was called on, pretty much hogged the spotlight from everyone else.
(closed circuit for the Brits) Countdown: Jo Brand. You're not funny, and you're definitely not good on the eyes.
Generic: Any time someone did a show "in character".
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Mario Cantone.
He was even obnoxious when he was opposite Robert Osborne as the TCM Guest Programmer.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249780\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 06:42 PM\']For any given celebrity-based game show, who would you nominate as THE most obnoxious celebrity that ever graced that show.
For Starters:
Match Game '98: Judy Tenuta (and her squeeze box -- 'nuff said).
Nearly Every Bob Stewart show with Celebrities: Nipsey Russell. An opening poem, sometimes a closing poem, and occasionally a mid-game poem he gets to sneak in x5 shows a week. Yes, he was billed as Poet Laureate(sp?) and he rarely repeated any poems, but there were times it was overdone.
Others?[/quote]
Well I don't know about Nipsey, I like the poems. Yes Judy was obnoxious as George was a moron.
Jim J. Bullock (Who was also on MG98) From Hollywood Squares. Man I just wanted to punch him every time I saw him...
/And Don't get me started on Figure it out.....
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249780\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 03:42 PM\']Nearly Every Bob Stewart show with Celebrities: Nipsey Russell. An opening poem, sometimes a closing poem, and occasionally a mid-game poem he gets to sneak in x5 shows a week. Yes, he was billed as Poet Laureate(sp?) and he rarely repeated any poems, but there were times it was overdone.[/quote]
Well, love him or hate him, but what set him apart from the other annoying celebrities was the fact that he was friggin' great at just about every game he played.
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[quote name=\'William_S.\' post=\'249792\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 08:30 PM\']Well I don't know about Nipsey, I like the poems.[/quote]
Second this. I thought Russell's poems were very entertaining, sometimes hysterical.
I thought he did a decent job on "Your Numbers Up". Isn't it true he would go bonkers if someone won the bonus round?
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249780\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 06:42 PM\']Nearly Every Bob Stewart show with Celebrities: Nipsey Russell. An opening poem, sometimes a closing poem, and occasionally a mid-game poem he gets to sneak in x5 shows a week. Yes, he was billed as Poet Laureate(sp?) and he rarely repeated any poems, but there were times it was overdone.[/quote]
I gotta agree with the others. His poetry may have been topical then and dated now, but I always found Nipsey entertaining...and a damn fine player on the shows he appeared on.
Second Fred Travalena, but on MG/HS Hour. His interrupting every question for an impression got old after awhile.
Also, Rosie O'Donnell on Bergeron's HS. When bluffing, she'd shake her head "no" to tell the contestant to disagree. Yeah, yeah, yeah Queen of Nice and whatever. Didn't work here.
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I've got 2. Pat Carroll on The Hollywood Connection. Apparently her own unfunny jokes put her in stitches.
And then there was Hal Block during the early years of What's My Line ...
--Jamie
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Kaye Stevens on Match Game '74. UGH.
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From the "not quite a game show but sorta" department...John Sessions on "Whose Line is it Anyway"
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'249807\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 12:31 AM\']Kaye Stevens on Match Game '74. UGH.[/quote]
THANK YOU. Couldn't remember her name. I agree 200%
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'249804\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 12:36 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249780\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 06:42 PM\']Nearly Every Bob Stewart show with Celebrities: Nipsey Russell. An opening poem, sometimes a closing poem, and occasionally a mid-game poem he gets to sneak in x5 shows a week. Yes, he was billed as Poet Laureate(sp?) and he rarely repeated any poems, but there were times it was overdone.[/quote]
I gotta agree with the others. His poetry may have been topical then and dated now, but I always found Nipsey entertaining...and a damn fine player on the shows he appeared on.
Second Fred Travalena, but on MG/HS Hour. His interrupting every question for an impression got old after awhile.
Also, Rosie O'Donnell on Bergeron's HS. When bluffing, she'd shake her head "no" to tell the contestant to disagree. Yeah, yeah, yeah Queen of Nice and whatever. Didn't work here.
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Nipsey Russell and his poems, he'd always smile and laugh at the end of them egotistically. A decent game player, but it got tiring listening to his "pearls of wisdom".
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Tony Danza on the 1983 $25,000 Pyramid episode where he swears and walks off the set. I don't think he was ever invited back after that.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249780\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 06:42 PM\']Nearly Every Bob Stewart show with Celebrities: Nipsey Russell. An opening poem, sometimes a closing poem, and occasionally a mid-game poem he gets to sneak in x5 shows a week. Yes, he was billed as Poet Laureate(sp?) and he rarely repeated any poems, but there were times it was overdone.[/quote]
In the first place, I imagine there were rare occasions when he got to do a second poem in a show (if they needed to fill time or something), but you're making it sound like he took over a game and turned it into the Nipsey Russell Poetry Corner, and that's just not the case at all. Nipsey was also one of the sharpest, most enthusiastic and most fun but serious-minded celebrities to play on game shows (one of the reasons he was on so many). If the category is "Obnoxious Celebrity Players", I think 'Nipsey Russell' is a terrible clue.
On the other hand, it amuses me that you think he "rarely repeated any poems". For a video tribute I made a while back, I took four different instances of him reciting the same poem on four different shows, and edited them into a single piece line by line. It wasn't hard to find source material.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'249816\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 09:45 AM\']If the category is "Obnoxious Celebrity Players", I think 'Nipsey Russell' is a terrible clue.[/quote]
I agree; I remember picking through others' lists in my trading days and looking forward to watching the shows where Nipsey was a guest. He was always above average and really played to win. I remember him looking at the off-stage clock often during the Pyramid front game, and telling the contestant to "hurry up" if they were being slow. He was also a great MG panelist. Actually caring about the game they play, and playing to win, makes the celeb great in my book, poems or not.
JoAnne Worley falls in this category for me too, where I understand how some people might have found her annoying, but I loved watching her on Pyramid. Pat Carroll was brought up as an annoying celeb earlier; I think she was the victim of poor writing on Hollywood Connection more than anything.
Top annoying celeb for me is Kaye Stevens, open and shut case. Never was a fan of Patty Duke as a panelist...she wasn't really "annoying," but always seemed to want to be somewhere else. Debralee Scott was a frequent Goodson celeb that I didn't care for, either.
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I hereby nominate Professor Irwin Corey from Davidson Hollywood Squares. On the episode I have with him, he took forever to answer his questions, going off on many different tangents and wasting a tremendous (and unacceptable) amount of time, cutting the game very short. Once, he started rambling before the question was posed. Even Shadoe Stevens was starting to get ticked off. For some reason, though, Corey was invited back three more times. (?!?!?!?)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'249816\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 07:45 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249780\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 06:42 PM\']Nearly Every Bob Stewart show with Celebrities: Nipsey Russell. An opening poem, sometimes a closing poem, and occasionally a mid-game poem he gets to sneak in x5 shows a week. Yes, he was billed as Poet Laureate(sp?) and he rarely repeated any poems, but there were times it was overdone.[/quote]
In the first place, I imagine there were rare occasions when he got to do a second poem in a show (if they needed to fill time or something), but you're making it sound like he took over a game and turned it into the Nipsey Russell Poetry Corner, and that's just not the case at all. Nipsey was also one of the sharpest, most enthusiastic and most fun but serious-minded celebrities to play on game shows (one of the reasons he was on so many). If the category is "Obnoxious Celebrity Players", I think 'Nipsey Russell' is a terrible clue.
On the other hand, it amuses me that you think he "rarely repeated any poems". For a video tribute I made a while back, I took four different instances of him reciting the same poem on four different shows, and edited them into a single piece line by line. It wasn't hard to find source material.
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Nipsey Russell was an excellent game show player, I'm not questioning that aspect of the man, I just think some of the shows relied on his poems too much that it took away from the other celebrity(ies) on the show.
Obnoxious, as compared to Judy Tenuta levels, Nipsey is not, and apologies for inferring that he hijacked the show for his own Poetry Corner, he didn't. I guess he stands out more in my mind than others on Stewart shows since a lot of his later shows had laid back B- and C-List celebrities (David Graff, Mary Cadorette, Ed Begley...) that played the game decently but were usually less animated than their civilian contestants.
He did get a little obnoxious on the last ep. of "Your Number's Up", though.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'249816\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 09:45 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249780\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 06:42 PM\']Nearly Every Bob Stewart show with Celebrities: Nipsey Russell. An opening poem, sometimes a closing poem, and occasionally a mid-game poem he gets to sneak in x5 shows a week. Yes, he was billed as Poet Laureate(sp?) and he rarely repeated any poems, but there were times it was overdone.[/quote]
In the first place, I imagine there were rare occasions when he got to do a second poem in a show (if they needed to fill time or something), but you're making it sound like he took over a game and turned it into the Nipsey Russell Poetry Corner, and that's just not the case at all. Nipsey was also one of the sharpest, most enthusiastic and most fun but serious-minded celebrities to play on game shows (one of the reasons he was on so many). If the category is "Obnoxious Celebrity Players", I think 'Nipsey Russell' is a terrible clue.
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Not only that, but when he appeared on Pyramid or Match Game, Dick/Bill or Gene would invite him to say his daily poem. It's not like he finished up a round of 7 words by doing a poem.
Even if he had recited a verse before showing his card on MG, it's not like it was taking away from anything.
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Resisting the obvious temptation to list Sean Connery on SNL Celebrity Jeopardy, I nominate...
Paula Poundstone on TTTT2K. She never understood that there is humor that comes out naturally in the format, but you still have to take the game somewhat seriously. (See just about any Garry Moore ep and you get the idea.)
(On the other hand, I love her on "Wait Wait" as that show does NOT take itself seriously.)
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My picks...
Lynn Redgrave on WML- Unprepared for questions to ask on WML... took FOREVER for her to come up with questions to ask.
Paula Poundstone on TTTT- I thought Dave Coulier would hog the spotlight with dated 80s impressions when he was on TTTT, but he played the game FAR better than Paula. Paula was just trying WAY too hard to be funny, thinking asking random questions about the Waltons was true comedy relief. The producers got the better of her though, by getting Earl Hamner, the creator of The Waltons on the show. Unfortunately she had to "recuse" herself (a term that SHE coined) because she knew who Earl Hamner was.
Kin Shriner on MG 98- He wasn't so much obnoxious as it was that it was plainly obvious he didn't want to be there. He was the Richard Dawson '78 of the era. While Nell, Judy, and Vicki and George were at least trying to make the end credits look like a dance party, Kin just sat at his seat in total boredom. He had me wanting his twin brother Wil to take his place, and that's being desperate!
Henry Morgan- I am stretching a bit with "obnoxious" here... Henry was just not a happy guy and didn't always seem to be having much fun with IGAS. He was supposedly not very nice or sociable with the panel outside of the show. Sometimes it did look obvious that he'd rather be elsewhere. However, to his credit he did a decent job of filling in for Garry Moore when he was out, so maybe Henry liked the hosting job better.
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The XX,000 Pyramid - Robert Mandan would purposely lose the second game if the first contestant won the Winner's Circle round.
I agree. A little JM J. Bullock goes a long way.
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[quote name=\'alfonzos\' post=\'249849\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 01:40 PM\']The XX,000 Pyramid - Robert Mandan would purposely lose the second game if the first contestant won the Winner's Circle round.[/quote]
That's a pretty strong accusation that I think I'd like to see backed up with some proof before I consider it anything but total hogwash.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249839\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 12:24 PM\']Nipsey Russell was an excellent game show player, I'm not questioning that aspect of the man, I just think some of the shows relied on his poems too much that it took away from the other celebrity(ies) on the show.[/quote]
Dude, it was a 10 second deal on a 30 minute show.
You're making way bigger of a deal out it than it really was.
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Jo Anne Worley, anyone?
Good game player. Didn't need the operatics, though.
ETA: Sorry--didn't see Mitch brought her up.
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Al Franken on Power Players Week (1997) on Jeopardy. Way too much chatter. He seemed to tighten it up on later appearances, but I remember just cringing through that episode.
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Paula Poundstone on TTTT, for sure. Several times, I heard her openly mock contestants and their stories. One particular instance was a contestant whose story was that he had organized a campaign to teach kids not to curse. Paula basically told him that she disagreed with what he was doing and would teach her kids that they could say anything they wanted. She had every right to disagree with him, of course, but she said it very confrontationally. She always seemed like the show was the last place in the world she wanted to be.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249780\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 03:42 PM\']Match Game '98: Judy Tenuta (and her squeeze box -- 'nuff said).[/quote]Is it really? I'm just supposed to know?
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'249789\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 06:07 PM\'](closed circuit for the Brits) Countdown: Jo Brand. You're not funny, and you're definitely not good on the eyes.[/quote]"Russell!"
<clang!> CHARGE!
[quote name=\'Offshored2007\' post=\'249811\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 05:10 AM\']Nipsey Russell and his poems, he'd always smile and laugh at the end of them egotistically.[/quote]I'm sorry, what now? A guy can't laugh at his own joke?
Game show panelists. Serious bidness.
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Wayland Flowers (and Madam), Hollywood Squares. Go dig up the last question from the Vegas run. That one question sums things up quite nicely. Bastard basically sat on the last three minutes of the game just so he could make sure he got the last question of the series, when one of the contestants was playing for $25,000.
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'249870\' date=\'Oct 29 2010, 02:12 AM\']Wayland Flowers (and Madam), Hollywood Squares. Go dig up the last question from the Vegas run. That one question sums things up quite nicely. Bastard basically sat on the last three minutes of the game just so he could make sure he got the last question of the series, when one of the contestants was playing for $25,000.[/quote]
Don't you mean the last episode of the NBC run?
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At least on the last NBC HS, they did allow BOTH players to try for the big money due to Waylon taking up WAY too much time (not just on the last question, but on other questions as well) On the daytime HS they weren't as concerned about getting in a LOT of questions because the game straddled, but on the last show they should've gone "syndie" mode where they try to speed up the game (Jonathan Winters, as previously stated, had a LOT of trouble making his monologues short)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'249788\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 09:06 PM\']Probably Arte Johnson on "Hot Potato." I'd never seen Bill Cullen get annoyed before.[/quote]
Totally agree...I've always found Arte Johnson very annoying in everything I've seen him do.
(DoorNumberFour @ Oct 28 2010, 01:31 AM)
Kaye Stevens on Match Game '74. UGH.
Yes, yes and yes! I can't even watch those episodes.
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I never liked Jamie Farr on Pyramid or WordPlay. I find his voice grating.
I didn't think he was particularly good at Pyramid either. He never really seemed to "get" the game the way the other regular celebs did.
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[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' post=\'249877\' date=\'Oct 29 2010, 10:13 AM\']I never liked Jamie Farr on Pyramid or WordPlay. I find his voice grating.
I didn't think he was particularly good at Pyramid either. He never really seemed to "get" the game the way the other regular celebs did.[/quote]
I didn't mind Jamie Farr too much but he seemed to have a reputation as a "good game player," which he was not...very overrated on Pyramid. I think he was a better Password player.
Richard Kline reminds me of the way Jamie would play, a bit. Richard was a marginally better player and his temper showed often, especially on Pyramid front games where a contestant had trouble spitting out words.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'249867\' date=\'Oct 29 2010, 01:35 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'249780\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 03:42 PM\']Match Game '98: Judy Tenuta (and her squeeze box -- 'nuff said).[/quote]Is it really? I'm just supposed to know?
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His remark worked for me. I only watched one episode of that version and I knew.
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Jm J Bullock on anything he was ever on.
I can't believe someone hasn't mentioned Richard Simmons on Body Language (or any other show). As a kid, I used to cringe anytime I saw he was going to be one of the celebrities.
I'm not sure who I was most repulsed by in terms of obnoxiousness? I will concede that Simmons really wanted his contestant to win though. I suppose that leaves Bullock as the most obnoxious in my book.
/Never saw much of MG'98. Based on what I did see, that entire show was obnoxious.
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[quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'249894\' date=\'Oct 30 2010, 01:02 AM\']Jm J Bullock on anything he was ever on.[/quote]
Yeah, OK, this is probably my vote, but with an asterisk to cover Hollywood Squares. To me, that whole version was such a let's-try-anything free-for-all that his mugging and time wasting didn't really bother me. On the other hand, watching him single-handedly destroy my precious I've Got a Secret was truly painful.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'249895\' date=\'Oct 29 2010, 11:11 PM\']On the other hand, watching him single-handedly destroy my precious I've Got a Secret was truly painful.[/quote]
Come now, the homey little let's-all-sit-on-the-couch set didn't have just a *small* part in that? :)
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Patti Deutsch and her inane MG answers designed to show off her silly idea of "humor" that no contestant ever would have thought of in a million years.
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Richard Simmons may be annoying on some game shows (he was calmer on Super Password) but he's motivated many people. However, I think with Body Language that being as animated as he is, is appropriate for that type of show. His tearful reaction to winning that contestant $40k on Super Password was completely opposite of what I expected... I was expecting jumping up and down and bedlam. So I do think Richard can control himself based on the show he's on.
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I was never a Jamie Farr fan -- even on M*A*S*H.
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Constance McCashin was not obnoxious but did not seem very friendly on 'Pyramid'. Paula Poundstone on the other hand comes right to mind as being obnoxious on 'Truth'. Also I've never seen the appeal of Orson Bean or Joanne Worley.
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I hated hated HATED it when Anita Gillette was on. But now she plays Liz Lemon's mother so she's okay in my book. So then it's JoAnne Worley. She wasn't ever funny, not once, on a game show.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'249816\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 08:45 AM\']On the other hand, it amuses me that you think he "rarely repeated any poems". For a video tribute I made a while back, I took four different instances of him reciting the same poem on four different shows, and edited them into a single piece line by line. It wasn't hard to find source material.[/quote]
I love the one where he concluded the opposite of "progress" is "Congress."
It's funny to see Nipsey on Match Game because he'd shoehorn in his one-liners and poems and I get the impression Rayburn wasn't wild about him. But just this week GSN ran an episode from '75 in which Gene very amusingly set up a poem as a bit of wisdom to leave us viewers with. It may just have been because he had a minute to kill at the end.
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Okay, here are my takes:
William Shatner when he threw the chair on Pyramid. Notice he never came back after that.
Tony Randall - a good game player but didn't come across as all that friendly, to me anyway. The producers of Hollywood Squares learned the hard way not to put Randall and Paul Lynde next to each other. Lynde was a chain smoker.
Henry Morgan - had an on-air verbal spar with Bennett Cerf on WML. I believe he was on MG '78 one week. Other than that, he basically appeared on G-T's panel shows.
Paula Poundstoine on TTTT and Judy Tenuta on MG '98 I absolutly agree with.
I don't think these were obnoxious
Jonathan Winters - Peter Marshall said in an interview that Jonathan needed characters to do to feel "comfortable" so the writers started including that in questions to him. I thought he was amusing, but yes he did eat up time on occasion.
JM J. Bullock - was loud and nutty, I wouldn't say he was obnoxious.
Richard Simmons - see JM. J. Bullock
Nipsey - he didn't eat up time with his poems, he was fine.
Fred Travelena - did imitations when it was HIS TURN on MG, he didn't hog the spotlight when other celebs were on camera, so I didn't have a problem with him.
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'249847\' date=\'Oct 28 2010, 02:52 PM\']Henry Morgan- I am stretching a bit with "obnoxious" here... Henry was just not a happy guy and didn't always seem to be having much fun with IGAS. He was supposedly not very nice or sociable with the panel outside of the show. Sometimes it did look obvious that he'd rather be elsewhere. However, to his credit he did a decent job of filling in for Garry Moore when he was out, so maybe Henry liked the hosting job better.[/quote]
No, no, Henry is just being irascible!
I love the producers' brilliant idea that they needed a foil on the panel, someone not to like. I've heard the reference more often with Dorothy Kilgallen, but Henry has the same role. Indeed, that was what inspired Roone Arledge to put Cosell on Monday Night Football. When the panel on IGAS did silly things, it was Henry who made them look silly.
I must say, though, I want to know what he was kibbitzing about all the time with Bess or Faye.
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JM J. Bullock - was loud and nutty, I wouldn't say he was obnoxious.
Richard Simmons - see JM. J. Bullock
You're saying this (http://\"http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/32944-richard_simmons.jpg\") is not obnoxious.
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'249910\' date=\'Oct 30 2010, 12:39 PM\']Jonathan Winters - Peter Marshall said in an interview that Jonathan needed characters to do to feel "comfortable" so the writers started including that in questions to him. I thought he was amusing, but yes he did eat up time on occasion.
Fred Travelena - did imitations when it was HIS TURN on MG, he didn't hog the spotlight when other celebs were on camera, so I didn't have a problem with him.[/quote]
I love Jonathan Winters, so I didn't mind even if he stalled the show. Jan Murray stalled the show and wasn't funny.
Impressionists and ventriloquists are usually lousy on these shows. They have to set up the dummy or the impression each time so it's never a quick one liner. Ronn Lucas and Scorch may have killed Match Game '90 single-handedly. (Pun kind of intended.) Wayland and Madame were the exception that proves the rule--the last episode aside, Peter ignored Wayland and spoke to Madame, and she was funny.
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[quote name='BillCullen1' post='249910' date='Oct 30 2010, 01:39 PM']William Shatner when he threw the chair on Pyramid. Notice he never came back after that.[/quote]
This appears to be a really common misconception -- Xanfan's celebrity listings page for $10,000/$20,000 (http://"http://www.xanfan.com/celebrities/10k-20k.htm") (compiled by William Padron, IIRC) lists Shatner as appearing the week of 12/26-30/77 with Barbara Feldon, while the listings for the Cullen $25,000 (http://"http://www.xanfan.com/celebrities/25k-cullen.htm") have Shatner appearing twice in 1978 (2/22 with JoAnne Worley, 9/24 with Loretta Swit).
Shatner's throwing a chair probably didn't put him in good standing with Bob Stewart and the staff, but he was still asked back...which leads me to believe that a later incident was the last straw, and hence his total disappearance from the show in late '78. The Swit episode is on YouTube, and Shatner is mentioned as also being on fellow Stewart series The Love Experts.
/Surprised Xanfan's site is still up.
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'249789\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 08:07 PM\'](closed circuit for the Brits) Countdown: Jo Brand. You're not funny, and you're definitely not good on the eyes.[/quote]
To each their own. I'd rather see her there than some of the regulars, who are just dull. Half the time, I fast forward through the Dictionary Corner monologue after the first numbers game.
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[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'249897\' date=\'Oct 30 2010, 04:01 AM\']Patti Deutsch and her inane MG answers designed to show off her silly idea of "humor" that no contestant ever would have thought of in a million years.[/quote]
THIS. It annoyed the living hell out of me anytime the game hung in the balance, and she'd give one of her idiotic answers, thus screwing the contestant from at least tying the game.
Richard Simmons was pretty obnoxious on Bergeron's HS as well. Everytime someone called on a celebrity, you'd hear Richard yell out "Yayyy! ___!" like a cheerleader.
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Fred Travelena - did imitations when it was HIS TURN on MG, he didn't hog the spotlight when other celebs were on camera, so I didn't have a problem with him.
Maybe so, but on MG/HS Fred interrupted the game during HS when it wasn't his turn with pointless impressions, with Arsenio Hall joining in. It was like taking advantage of a substitute teacher.
Similarly, in the early HS eps. when Buddy Hackett would interrupt the game. Peter used to let him have his say, but later politely told him he couldn't interrupt the game. I'm not saying Buddy was obnoxious, but he did get into trouble over a joke about Jeruselem. There is an episode in circulation where Buddy is noticeably absent during the credits, and Peter talks about it in his book. Not only did he tell a racy joke, but they were concerned about him doing research on the topics of the questions he would be asked. The stars were NEVER told the question, only the subject matter, and a suggested bluff.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Henry Polic II on Pyramid. The way he kissed up to Bob Stewart got old quickly.
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[quote name=\'ET206\' post=\'249966\' date=\'Oct 31 2010, 09:41 PM\']I'm surprised no one has mentioned Henry Polic II on Pyramid. The way he kissed up to Bob Stewart got old quickly.[/quote]
Not to Bob. They're still best buds.
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[quote name=\'ET206\' post=\'249966\' date=\'Oct 31 2010, 09:41 PM\']I'm surprised no one has mentioned Henry Polic II on Pyramid.[/quote]Because no one felt like it. "I'm surprised no one..." replies really get my goat.
On topic now, I'm right with those of you who say Nipsey was not an annoyance. A darned fine game player that cared about the players he was teamed with.
As far an obnoxious panelists, Patti would go with the quite-likely-not-to-match "joke" answers in Round 1 but in Round 2 and any TIE rounds she would try to match the contestant. Her husband, however, I could not stand. Donald Ross, I believe. Or Donald H. Ross.
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Alan Sues on "Cross-Wits" who once undermined a contestant's bonus round by just standing there and saying nothing. Yeah, pretty damn annoying.
Of course, we've been down this road before, in another place, another time. (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/lofiversion/index.php/t11075.html\")
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From recent years, I nominate Patricia Heaton's embarrassing visit to Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'249969\' date=\'Oct 31 2010, 07:45 PM\']Because no one felt like it. "I'm surprised no one..." replies really get my goat.[/quote]
I always mentally replace "I'm surprised nobody..." with "Hey, look what I know!" 99 times out of 100 it doesn't change the intent of the post one iota.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'249927\' date=\'Oct 30 2010, 04:42 PM\']This appears to be a really common misconception -- Xanfan's celebrity listings page for $10,000/$20,000 (http://\"http://www.xanfan.com/celebrities/10k-20k.htm\") (compiled by William Padron, IIRC) lists Shatner as appearing the week of 12/26-30/77 with Barbara Feldon, while the listings for the Cullen $25,000 (http://\"http://www.xanfan.com/celebrities/25k-cullen.htm\") have Shatner appearing twice in 1978 (2/22 with JoAnne Worley, 9/24 with Loretta Swit).
Shatner's throwing a chair probably didn't put him in good standing with Bob Stewart and the staff, but he was still asked back...which leads me to believe that a later incident was the last straw, and hence his total disappearance from the show in late '78.
/Surprised Xanfan's site is still up.[/quote]
Zach Horan, is that you?
/Nobody's impressed.
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[quote name='ET206' date='Oct 31 2010, 09:41 PM' post='249966']
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Henry Polic II on Pyramid. The way he kissed up to Bob Stewart got old quickly.
It got him the gig on Double Talk, didn't it? (Just because he can play word games doesn't mean he can HOST one... much less ANNOUNCE one, as he did on occasion with 100k Pyramid)
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[quote name=\'William_S.\' post=\'249792\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 09:30 PM\']Jim J. Bullock (Who was also on MG98) From Hollywood Squares. Man I just wanted to punch him every time I saw him...[/quote]
He was also on MG/HS Hour and MG90. I actually though his "obnoxiousness" on HS give the show a Match Game-ish vibe, which I didn't find to be bad btw.
For me, the most obnoxious celebrity was Jack Cassidy on Match Game '75. Everyone who has seen him on the show has said he acted like a p**ck. Personally, when I saw him, that week of shows dragged. The Thursday and Friday shows were the worst, because it was taped after the dinner break and Jack had a little liquor in his system, and his obnoxiousness just intensified. The fact that he passed a year or so later notwithstanding, I doubt if he would've been invited back to the show for his behavior that week alone.
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[quote name=\'GameShowGuru\' post=\'249990\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 09:33 AM\']For me, the most obnoxious celebrity was Jack Cassidy on
Match Game '75 damn near anything. Everyone who has seen him on the show has said he acted like a p**ck.[/quote]
Fixed that for ya.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'249927\' date=\'Oct 30 2010, 05:42 PM\'][quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'249910\' date=\'Oct 30 2010, 01:39 PM\']William Shatner when he threw the chair on Pyramid. Notice he never came back after that.[/quote]
This appears to be a really common misconception -- Xanfan's celebrity listings page for $10,000/$20,000 (http://\"http://www.xanfan.com/celebrities/10k-20k.htm\") (compiled by William Padron, IIRC) lists Shatner as appearing the week of 12/26-30/77 with Barbara Feldon, while the listings for the Cullen $25,000 (http://\"http://www.xanfan.com/celebrities/25k-cullen.htm\") have Shatner appearing twice in 1978 (2/22 with JoAnne Worley, 9/24 with Loretta Swit).
Shatner's throwing a chair probably didn't put him in good standing with Bob Stewart and the staff, but he was still asked back...which leads me to believe that a later incident was the last straw, and hence his total disappearance from the show in late '78.
/Surprised Xanfan's site is still up.
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It's very likely that the first Shatner 1978 appearance on $25K was taped before any airborne chairs. The entire season was usually taped during a small taping window.
Duly noted that Shatner went from being in the Stewart stable (he was on many others as well) prior to launch to a smaller presence, then a non-existent presence.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'249938\' date=\'Oct 31 2010, 12:04 AM\'][quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'249897\' date=\'Oct 30 2010, 04:01 AM\']Patti Deutsch and her inane MG answers designed to show off her silly idea of "humor" that no contestant ever would have thought of in a million years.[/quote]
THIS. It annoyed the living hell out of me anytime the game hung in the balance, and she'd give one of her idiotic answers, thus screwing the contestant from at least tying the game. [/quote]
While I would agree with you on this during MG's initial years on the air, to be fair, in the latter part of the run, she wised up enough to reserve her inane answers for the first round of questions, while providing more sensible answers in the deciding rounds (though when the Star Wheel first appeared and Patti was on the show, I would be praying that it didn't land on her, although her appearances in the latter years were becoming fewer and further in between as the show drew closer to its final demise).
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[quote name=\'GameShowGuru\' post=\'250004\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 04:22 PM\'](though when the Star Wheel first appeared and Patti was on the show, I would be praying that it didn't land on her, although her appearances in the latter years were becoming fewer and further in between as the show drew closer to its final demise).[/quote]
Does anyone remember any occasion where the wheel did land on her? I'm having trouble remembering one.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'250025\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 05:58 PM\'][quote name=\'GameShowGuru\' post=\'250004\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 04:22 PM\'](though when the Star Wheel first appeared and Patti was on the show, I would be praying that it didn't land on her, although her appearances in the latter years were becoming fewer and further in between as the show drew closer to its final demise).[/quote]
Does anyone remember any occasion where the wheel did land on her? I'm having trouble remembering one.
[/quote]
No, but there was I believe a multi-game champion who insisted on calling on her on Final Match in I believe 75, much to Patti's surprise. They matched more often than not.
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During the run of "The Sky's the Limit," Bob Stewart discovered that an upright wheel would return to virtually the same place depending on where it began. It's possible that the MG wheel was subject to the same laws of physics and certain stars names (read Patti Deutsch) were placed in places the wheel would never stop.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'250025\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 05:58 PM\'][quote name=\'GameShowGuru\' post=\'250004\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 04:22 PM\'](though when the Star Wheel first appeared and Patti was on the show, I would be praying that it didn't land on her, although her appearances in the latter years were becoming fewer and further in between as the show drew closer to its final demise).[/quote]
Does anyone remember any occasion where the wheel did land on her? I'm having trouble remembering one.
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There's one on the DVD set, from her last week ever on the show.
Brendan
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' post=\'250082\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 02:25 AM\'][quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'250025\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 05:58 PM\'][quote name=\'GameShowGuru\' post=\'250004\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 04:22 PM\'](though when the Star Wheel first appeared and Patti was on the show, I would be praying that it didn't land on her, although her appearances in the latter years were becoming fewer and further in between as the show drew closer to its final demise).[/quote]
Does anyone remember any occasion where the wheel did land on her? I'm having trouble remembering one.
[/quote]
There's one on the DVD set, from her last week ever on the show.
[/quote]
If you don't have that, there's this (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rVOYsJ8hb8&t=2m50s\") clip (although she didn't match).
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OK, here's my vote, FWIW ...
Being of a certain age, I'm a little too young to remember the heyday of Jack Paar, but from the extant clips, he certainly comes across as a sharp, articulate wit and a terrific raconteur - it's easy to see why he was such a hit during his five-year reign on "The Tonight Show."
But I have to admit, from what I've seen of Paar, there was something about him that usually rubbed me the wrong way. He may have been a brilliant talk show host, but he always came across (to me at least) as someone who was a bit smug, who considered himself the smartest person in the room (which he may well have been).
Which, of course, brings me to Paar's memorable appearance on "Password." I recently read that while Paar as a rule didn't do game shows, he did this one as a present to his good friends, newlyweds Allen Ludden and Betty White.
We all know how well he did, accidentally giving the passwords as clues and generally not giving a damn about how well he played the game. That's in striking contrast to comedians like Alan King and Buddy Hackett, who pleasantly surprised me with how seriously they took the show and gave thoughtful clues.
And remember the time Paar was the mystery guest on "What's My Line?" and thought he was oh-so-clever by delivering his answers through a megaphone?
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'249995\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 02:41 PM\']It's very likely that the first Shatner 1978 appearance on $25K was taped before any airborne chairs. The entire season was usually taped during a small taping window.
Duly noted that Shatner went from being in the Stewart stable (he was on many others as well) prior to launch to a smaller presence, then a non-existent presence.[/quote]
One might also consider that Mr. Shatner began making Star Trek films around this time. Starring in features does tend to raise an actor's profile high enough that they no longer guest on game shows. One might also note that Leonard Nimoy stopped appearing as well.
I would hope that Stewart would love a good player who's willing to be unpredictable and is so into the game he'd throw a chair, although I do recall hearing he's tight with a buck.
Question: Was Shatner's solo Winners' Circle round before or after the chair throw?
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'250108\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 02:37 PM\']Question: Was Shatner's solo Winners' Circle round before or after the chair throw?[/quote]
Before. I think the solo game was still during the $10K era.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'250127\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 06:01 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'250108\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 02:37 PM\']Question: Was Shatner's solo Winners' Circle round before or after the chair throw?[/quote]Before. I think the solo game was still during the $10K era.[/quote]
Over two years before. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq4K8LTgZHk\") It was apparently on June 27, 1975 (with Lee Meriwether, seen during the clip) after Shatner failed to win any front games that whole week. I don't know what the first box was (a single word) or how he managed to waste 40 seconds, but it's fun to see the trilons spinning around long before $100,000 did it for tournament wins.
EDIT: Shatner was only given 30 seconds, which actually makes more sense. Thanks to the ever-awesome William Padron for clearing that up.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'250108\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 02:37 PM\']Question: Was Shatner's solo Winners' Circle round before or after the chair throw?[/quote]
I'm too lazy to go pull out the tape, but I believe the solo round was in the opener to the chair episode.
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'250154\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 08:51 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'250108\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 02:37 PM\']Question: Was Shatner's solo Winners' Circle round before or after the chair throw?[/quote]
I'm too lazy to go pull out the tape, but I believe the solo round was in the opener to the chair episode.
[/quote]
Indeed. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACAKO2lqVH8\")
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'249789\' date=\'Oct 27 2010, 09:07 PM\'](closed circuit for the Brits) Countdown: Jo Brand. You're not funny, and you're definitely not good on the eyes.[/quote]
Although, in her defense, she does make a pretty good foil for Stephen Fry on QI.
/then there was that Christmas episode where she tried to trigger the sirens for every question during General Ignorance...
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'250143\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 07:40 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'250127\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 06:01 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'250108\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 02:37 PM\']Question: Was Shatner's solo Winners' Circle round before or after the chair throw?[/quote]Before. I think the solo game was still during the $10K era.[/quote]
Over two years before. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq4K8LTgZHk\") It was apparently on June 27, 1975 (with Lee Meriwether, seen during the clip) after Shatner failed to win any front games that whole week. I don't know what the first box was (a single word) or how he managed to waste 40 seconds, but it's fun to see the trilons spinning around long before $100,000 did it for tournament wins.
[/quote]
No, Shatner did not waste 40 seconds, because the producer gave him only 30 seconds in that solo W/C round. He did his two final episodes as a guest for the fifth and last season ('78-'79) of the Cullen show, with all production wrapped up by the end of June '78. After that, no more Shatner on Pyramid ever again.
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Like the Celebrity Hot Potato video, this thread too brings to mind a question for you all...well, here it is at the CHP thread:
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=250466 (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=20850&view=findpost&p=250466\")
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George Peppard on "Password Plus". The infamous rant, which can be seen on youtube.
Little Richard as a celebrity player on Wheel. Start of the round, spins $5,000, and he guesses "X".
Bill Daily's schtick, while not necessarily obnoxious, was very tiresome and irritating very fast. He was rather dreadful on Match Game, and he once changed a Queen on Card Sharks to an 8, yet he still won the game somehow. He just seemed like an idiotic clown who always tried to force himself to be funny, and he seldom if ever was. That schtick worked on "I Dream of Jeannie", but not in the world of game shows.
Henry Morgan once was very rude to Bennett Cerf. Bennett was in the middle of telling a story while in the process of introducing John Daly, the host, and Morgan made some kind of a rude comment about getting the game started already. Daly handled it well, coming to Cerf's defense in his very eloquent, gentlemanly way. Truly a class act.
Waylen & Madame were indeed obnoxious. I never much cared for puppets on game shows though, or ever for that matter. Part of me also hated that they were in the center square, taking Paul Lynde's place. Squares would probably lasted another 10 years at least if Lynde had stuck around, he WAS that show!
Arte Johnson was another borderline obnoxious celeb. He was okay on "Laugh-In", but not so much so in the game show world.
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[quote name=\'wdm1219inpenna\' post=\'251697\' date=\'Nov 28 2010, 08:53 AM\']Little Richard as a celebrity player on Wheel. Start of the round, spins $5,000, and he guesses "X".[/quote]
Watching a video. Little Richard and James Brown are a team. They're the only team; the others are solo players.
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[quote name=\'wdm1219inpenna\' post=\'251697\' date=\'Nov 28 2010, 09:53 AM\']Bill Daily's schtick, while not necessarily obnoxious, was very tiresome and irritating very fast. He was rather dreadful on Match Game, and he once changed a Queen on Card Sharks to an 8, yet he still won the game somehow. He just seemed like an idiotic clown who always tried to force himself to be funny, and he seldom if ever was. That schtick worked on "I Dream of Jeannie", but not in the world of game shows.
Waylen & Madame were indeed obnoxious. I never much cared for puppets on game shows though, or ever for that matter. Part of me also hated that they were in the center square, taking Paul Lynde's place. Squares would probably lasted another 10 years at least if Lynde had stuck around, he WAS that show![/quote]
Rayburn seemed to get a kick out of Daily. He was hard to watch as a regular, but I liked a little of him once in a while. He was terrific on Bob Newhart. And when they were playing for the big money, his answers were fine.
Waylon & Madame didn't replace Lynde, at least not all the time.
Worst Hollywood Square, Bergeron Era: Joshua Molina from TV's "Sports Night" and "West Wing." He never caught on that it they were shooting for comedy (sort of the problem on "Sports Night") nor that he could bluff.
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George Peppard on "Password Plus". The infamous rant, which can be seen on youtube.
I believe Peppard was the only celeb on PW+ to be seen smoking on the set. Seems he still had a cigarette on him at one point after coming back from commercial and he didn't have time to get rid of it. Ludden takes a break immediately after Peppard's rant... obviously the producers wanted to discuss whether to leave the rant in the broadcast. Obviously it was left in, but Ludden made him explain WHY he was upset. Allen also gave George a bit of a dirty look after the rant, and was noticeably upset he caused such a riff on an innocent game show.
Bill Daily's schtick, while not necessarily obnoxious, was very tiresome and irritating very fast. He was rather dreadful on Match Game, and he once changed a Queen on Card Sharks to an 8, yet he still won the game somehow. He just seemed like an idiotic clown who always tried to force himself to be funny, and he seldom if ever was. That schtick worked on "I Dream of Jeannie", but not in the world of game shows.
He did give some boneheaded answers, but usually came through when it was important. He knew "Cuckoo Friend and Ollie" was ridiculous enough, judging by that he nearly fell out of his chair laughing when he heard it.
Henry Morgan once was very rude to Bennett Cerf. Bennett was in the middle of telling a story while in the process of introducing John Daly, the host, and Morgan made some kind of a rude comment about getting the game started already. Daly handled it well, coming to Cerf's defense in his very eloquent, gentlemanly way. Truly a class act.
This was discussed before... apparently Morgan and Cerf disliked each other (from what I've heard few if any actually LIKED Henry Morgan... they tolerated him at best) and some of that was seen at that moment. John Daly also apparently didn't care much for Dorothy Kilgallen either, which would explain why he tended to give her the hardest time when she asked a question which was difficult to answer yes or no. Of all the panelists though, she was truly there to play the game and played to win, and would get quite upset sometimes if she failed to guess an occupation or mystery guest.
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[quote name=\'William A. Padron\' post=\'250245\' date=\'Nov 4 2010, 09:28 AM\'][quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'250143\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 07:40 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'250127\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 06:01 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'250108\' date=\'Nov 2 2010, 02:37 PM\']Question: Was Shatner's solo Winners' Circle round before or after the chair throw?[/quote]Before. I think the solo game was still during the $10K era.[/quote]
Over two years before. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq4K8LTgZHk\") It was apparently on June 27, 1975 (with Lee Meriwether, seen during the clip) after Shatner failed to win any front games that whole week. I don't know what the first box was (a single word) or how he managed to waste 40 seconds, but it's fun to see the trilons spinning around long before $100,000 did it for tournament wins.
[/quote]
No, Shatner did not waste 40 seconds, because the producer gave him only 30 seconds in that solo W/C round. He did his two final episodes as a guest for the fifth and last season ('78-'79) of the Cullen show, with all production wrapped up by the end of June '78. After that, no more Shatner on Pyramid ever again.
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The first box, based on a quick glimpse when the boxes all spin about after its over was "Rain Wear."
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The one person I can't stand is Shelley Smith on "Pyramid". She seems to be very full of herself and almost too serious.
i.e Whenever Dick gave her the option to give or recieve in the final two categories, she
1. Always wanted to give
2. Told that she wanted to give berfore Dick even verbally gave the option.
Her voice also dripped of arrogance, and it came from a C or D list actress
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Gilbert Gotfried on Hollywood Squares Bergeron or basically on any program he appears.
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Tony Danza on the 1983 $25,000 Pyramid episode where he swears and walks off the set. I don't think he was ever invited back after that.
Nope...and his little swearfest (over blowing the Mystery 7 for his partner) was just the tip of the iceberg, at least on that Friday episode, which also saw Danza:
- Complaining about why opponent Melody Thomas got to pick first
- Showboating when he won a game
- Tipping over and picking up his chair after wining in the WC
- Declare "My name better be there!" when a category came up concerning famous celebs who played Pyramid (and it wasn't even his turn, mind you)
Needless to say, despite Dick telling him to "please come back" at episode's end, that was Danza's last hurrah for Pyramid.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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And besides Danza's aforementioned Pyramid antics, I'd also cast my vote for some other celebs mentioned, as well as a couple who weren't:
- Paula Poundstone on TTTT (would it have killed her to take the game seriously?)
- Bill Daily on the Perry CS celeb tourney
- Judy Tenuta on MG '98
- William Shatner on Pyramid (who exhibited similar behavior during a week of Narz BtC a few years earlier)
- Naomi Judd's 1998 appearance on a one-off Celeb J! (highlights include her asking opponent Jane Curtin "who's the ignorant slut now?")
- Lonnie Shorr on BtB '76 (he was known to throw a fit if a blank or moneybag came up when it was supposed to be his turn)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Gary Burghoff on Match Game. He seemed to be trying too hard to be hilariously funny ALL OF THE TIME... to the point of obnoxiousness.
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Gary Burghoff on Match Game. He seemed to be trying too hard to be hilariously funny ALL OF THE TIME... to the point of obnoxiousness.
Yeah, I recall someone on the old JumpTheShark.com saying he "reminded me of that kid in school who tried so hard to be the class clown, while the REAL clown was down in the principal's office".
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' post=\'252004\' date=\'Dec 2 2010, 11:39 PM\']
Tony Danza on the 1983 $25,000 Pyramid episode where he swears and walks off the set. I don't think he was ever invited back after that.
Nope...and his little swearfest (over blowing the Mystery 7 for his partner) was just the tip of the iceberg, at least on that Friday episode, which also saw Danza:
- Complaining about why opponent Melody Thomas got to pick first
- Showboating when he won a game
- Tipping over and picking up his chair after wining in the WC
- Declare "My name better be there!" when a category came up concerning famous celebs who played Pyramid (and it wasn't even his turn, mind you)
Needless to say, despite Dick telling him to "please come back" at episode's end, that was Danza's last hurrah for Pyramid.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Can I see this online somewhere? I had no idea this even happened. How interesting!
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[quote name=\'bossjock967\' post=\'252008\' date=\'Dec 2 2010, 09:48 PM\']Gary Burghoff on Match Game. He seemed to be trying too hard to be hilariously funny ALL OF THE TIME... to the point of obnoxiousness.[/quote]I nab the daily hour of Match Game, and over the last few months, Gary had taken over for Charles, who was in a show. I found Gary to be funny more often than not, and I prefer him to Charles.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' post=\'252009\' date=\'Dec 3 2010, 12:54 AM\']
Gary Burghoff on Match Game. He seemed to be trying too hard to be hilariously funny ALL OF THE TIME... to the point of obnoxiousness.
Yeah, I recall someone on the old JumpTheShark.com saying he "reminded me of that kid in school who tried so hard to be the class clown, while the REAL clown was down in the principal's office".
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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You know... that sums it up perfectly.