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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: sotcfan2004 on October 19, 2010, 02:08:02 PM
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http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertain...to-orlando.html (http://\"http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/10/family-feud-ratings-climb-40-percent-since-move-to-orlando.html\")
Discuss.
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So, instead of five people watching, they have seven?
I was sitting in the audience, and people of all ages were laughing nonstop. I knew then we had a hit, and the ratings are verifying that.
A "hit"? The show isn't above a 2.5 yet, is it? Has it ever? Reruns of Two and a Half Men and Family Guy are hits. Wheel of Fortune, at number three (http://\"http://www.rbr.com/tv-cable/tv-cable_ratings/28348.html\") is a hit. Family Feud is not a hit.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'249422\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 03:03 PM\']So, instead of five people watching, they have seven?[/quote]
Well, they're talking about a "364 percent" increase at noon, which is more like going from five to eighteen. But you've got the right idea. The numbers are so small that any bump at all looks enormous and can be spun as technically accurate but ridiculous sounding percentage increases.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'249422\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 03:03 PM\']So, instead of five people watching, they have seven?
I was sitting in the audience, and people of all ages were laughing nonstop. I knew then we had a hit, and the ratings are verifying that.
A "hit"? The show isn't above a 2.5 yet, is it? Has it ever? Reruns of Two and a Half Men and Family Guy are hits. Wheel of Fortune, at number three (http://\"http://www.rbr.com/tv-cable/tv-cable_ratings/28348.html\") is a hit. Family Feud is not a hit.
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Paints a somewhat different (if not just more detailed) picture of those numbers (and at least two other sites I found which also give much more similar ratings to B&C than that local site:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/10/13/syndi...-jeopardy/67892 (http://\"http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/10/13/syndicated-ratings-oprah-two-and-a-half-men-again-tops-jeopardy/67892\")
The point is still valid though, going from a .1 to a .2 is a 100% increase, but your show is still being seen by almost nobody (too many people just DO NOT seem to get this). Not to mention that there are 90 million different factors that can have your ratings jump .1 or .2 either way or more from week to week (power outages in areas, upcoming elections and debates, weather related issues, sports, other program bumps, etc.). As such, that .1 or .2 decrease could just as easily be bumped the other way that next week.
People need to understand that a percentage change means only so much, the hardcore straight-forward numbers of people tuning in and out during a timeslot are your key, the rest I almost want to chalk up to spin tactics by advertisers to do something to positively promote their show. You could show 24 hours of Family Guy and simply sum up the 48 ratings for each half-hour (which it somewhat looks like that one site did) and get a number that you could say beats everything else, but if 90% of those episodes got like a .5, it doesn't matter what your final total was, your eyeball count sucked. You could replace any of those .5's with a show like J!, WOF, and the chances are it'd get more eyeballs for that timeslot and, in the end, was a better eyeball drawer and programming decision.
EDIT: Anddd Mr. Ottinger summed up it very nicely it looks too. :)
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[quote name=\'wheelloon\' post=\'249425\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 02:34 PM\']...and, in the end, was a better eyeball drawer and programming decision.[/quote]
What an eyeball drawer might look like. (http://\"http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/2294591983_4a386c1e61.jpg?v=0\")
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'249428\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 04:36 PM\'][quote name=\'wheelloon\' post=\'249425\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 02:34 PM\']...and, in the end, was a better eyeball drawer and programming decision.[/quote]
What an eyeball drawer might look like. (http://\"http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/2294591983_4a386c1e61.jpg?v=0\")
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Lol, even when I typed that... the thought crossed my mind what it would be like using an eyeball for a cabinet handle.
:Wondering though how in the world Adam found that pic in the first place though... :P
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An occularist's webpage is my guess.
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'249428\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 04:36 PM\']What an eyeball drawer might look like. (http://\"http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/2294591983_4a386c1e61.jpg?v=0\")[/quote]
Hmm... Where'd that "Rejected Winner's Circle Categories" thread go?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'249434\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 07:45 PM\']An occularist's webpage is my guess.[/quote]
Ding! (http://\"http://www.starksilvercreek.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/25th-annual-putnam-county-spelling-bee-san-jose-2.jpg\")
Ocularist. O C U L A R I S T.
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[quote name=\'Thunder\' post=\'249453\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 08:07 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'249434\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 07:45 PM\']An occularist's webpage is my guess.[/quote]
Ding! (http://\"http://www.starksilvercreek.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/25th-annual-putnam-county-spelling-bee-san-jose-2.jpg\")
Ocularist. O C U L A R I S T.
[/quote]Which just means I need to see one again. (Did you actually know the spelling, or have to look it up?)
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Sad to say, sir, I actually knew the spelling because I had it in a news story that I read on-air a week ago. I had to make sure I was pronouncing it right and looked it up then.
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[quote name=\'Thunder\' post=\'249458\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 08:43 PM\']Sad to say, sir, I actually knew the spelling because I had it in a news story that I read on-air a week ago. I had to make sure I was pronouncing it right and looked it up then.[/quote]I only know because I give them handfuls of money every five years, so good on ya.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'249422\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 12:03 PM\']A "hit"? The show isn't above a 2.5 yet, is it? Has it ever?[/quote]It doesn't have to be. The prize budget per show is $20,000 and a fifth of whatever car the show awards their retiring champs. Their big costs are Steve Harvey and the set/effects and stuff. It has gone for twelve years because it remains profitable. If it starts to pull hashes, they'll stop doing it. But they're able to have everyone make money on a shoestring, so they do.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'249459\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 11:45 PM\'][quote name=\'Thunder\' post=\'249458\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 08:43 PM\']Sad to say, sir, I actually knew the spelling because I had it in a news story that I read on-air a week ago. I had to make sure I was pronouncing it right and looked it up then.[/quote]I only know because I give them handfuls of money every five years, so good on ya.
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Around here, "ocularist" only appears in stories about the "Nightmare On Scales Street" haunted house attraction.
/Worth the trip to Reidsville, NC to go through it.
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[quote name=\'wheelloon\' post=\'249433\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 07:24 PM\']:Wondering though how in the world Adam found that pic in the first place though... :P[/quote]
I work there.
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Madame Tussaud's Wax Museum in Hollywood.
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[quote name=\'wheelloon\' post=\'249425\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 02:34 PM\']The point is still valid though, going from a .1 to a .2 is a 100% increase, but your show is still being seen by almost nobody (too many people just DO NOT seem to get this). Not to mention that there are 90 million different factors that can have your ratings jump .1 or .2 either way or more from week to week (power outages in areas, upcoming elections and debates, weather related issues, sports, other program bumps, etc.). As such, that .1 or .2 decrease could just as easily be bumped the other way that next week.[/quote]
Don't forget rounding errors...a show bouncing back and forth between .1 and .2 is probably somewhere in the .14-.16 range.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'249460\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 08:50 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'249422\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 12:03 PM\']A "hit"? The show isn't above a 2.5 yet, is it? Has it ever?[/quote]It doesn't have to be. The prize budget per show is $20,000 and a fifth of whatever car the show awards their retiring champs.[/quote]
Which leaves me wondering why they got rid of Bullseye this season. Even with a potential $30,000 + 1/5 Car per show budget, weren't they still giving away less money than before?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'249460\' date=\'Oct 19 2010, 11:50 PM\']The prize budget per show is $20,000 and a fifth of whatever car the show awards their retiring champs.[/quote]
Since Fast Money isn't won every day, the prize budget is even less than that.
[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' post=\'249540\' date=\'Oct 20 2010, 08:04 PM\']Which leaves me wondering why they got rid of Bullseye this season.[/quote]
My guess is because Steve Harvey's stamp on the show has been his lengthy reactions to answers and family members, so there would have been no way they could have fit Bullseye in without editing out a lot of Steve stuff. Note that the eight-answer surveys have all but disappeared this season, presumably for the same reason.
(Steve Harvey's other stamp on the show has been his habit of fixing the neckties of male contestants.)