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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: toetyper on August 01, 2010, 09:13:54 PM
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was there a pilot shot?
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[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'245272\' date=\'Aug 1 2010, 09:13 PM\']was there a pilot shot?[/quote]
Yes, Ty Treadway did one shortly before he got the gig on "Merv Griffin's Crosswords."
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[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'245272\' date=\'Aug 1 2010, 09:13 PM\']was there a pilot shot?[/quote]
There were two. One with Ross King in 1996, and one with Ty Treadway in 2007. Unfortunately the concept didn't sell.
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what was the concept.; briefly
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[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'245275\' date=\'Aug 1 2010, 09:53 PM\']what was the concept.; briefly[/quote]
People answered questions to get a chance to guess the combination of a lock.
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that sounds.............really dull'
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[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'245278\' date=\'Aug 1 2010, 09:17 PM\']that sounds.............really dull'[/quote]
Right in between those two pilots, software based on the unsold format was created. You can easily find it on your favorite abandonware site.
And... well, yeah the game was kind of dull in the sense that the two levels of the game were unrelated, unlike something like a Super Password, for example, where the small answers led to the big answers. Playing the part of the game that won the cash was basically as exciting as Loot / Warrant / Crook on Carmen Sandiego, except without the Loot or to Warrant. Even so, in the era in which it was created, it didn't have dramatically less gameplay than a lot of its syndicated competitors.
The questions themselves had the potential to be very creative in a first season 1 vs. 100 kind of way, though they didn't really push that envelope far enough. Then again, I'm a sucker for analogy questions.
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IIRC, the questions were numerically-based, and for some reason, I want to say centered around years. At least I think that's how the '96 pilot went. My memory is very sketchy, being it's been years since I read the rulesheet.
For example, "The year 'Dallas' premiered"/"The year JFK was assasinated"/"The year the Berlin Wall came down" would be 78-63-89. But, I thought that a combination like that somehow led to a bigger combination? Or maybe each question was asked individually, and each year arranged in a circle, then the contestants picked the three numbers for the combination?
ETA: Here's Michael Burger's analysis of the '96 pilot, (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=CombinationLock&sort=0\") not surprisingly, I was way off. Dunno where I got the idea that years came into play. Might've been one of the online variants.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245282\' date=\'Aug 1 2010, 10:00 PM\']IIRC, the questions were numerically-based, and for some reason, I want to say centered around years. At least I think that's how the '96 pilot went. My memory is very sketchy, being it's been years since I read the rulesheet.[/quote]Given three numbers, match them to three factoids. "Match the platonic solid to the number of sides it has: dodecahedron, icosahedron, cube: 6, 12, 20." And that was about as interesting as it got.
(That was a sample question. Your actual enjoyment may very depending upon the questions on the pilot and if you dig that sort of thing.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245284\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 01:59 AM\']Given three numbers, match them to three factoids. "Match the platonic solid to the number of sides it has: dodecahedron, icosahedron, cube: 6, 12, 20." And that was about as interesting as it got.
(That was a sample question. Your actual enjoyment may very depending upon the questions on the pilot and if you dig that sort of thing.[/quote]
And really, if the relationships were platonic, how interesting could it be?
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[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'245272\' date=\'Aug 1 2010, 08:13 PM\']was there a pilot shot?[/quote]Does not approve (http://\"http://www.coupondad.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Red_Baron_Logo.gif\")
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The set was pretty decent as they showed clips during a Wheel of Fortune taping some years back.
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that game was one of the rounds of Chain Reaction in Italy. It was dropped after the first season.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245282\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 12:00 AM\']For example, "The year 'Dallas' premiered"/"The year JFK was assasinated"/"The year the Berlin Wall came down" would be 78-63-89. But, I thought that a combination like that somehow led to a bigger combination? Or maybe each question was asked individually, and each year arranged in a circle, then the contestants picked the three numbers for the combination?[/quote]
For what it's worth, your game sounds better.
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Was this the same game that caused a huge argument here because someone refused to disclose the host of the pilot? (With said person leaving in a snit)
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'245326\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 04:38 PM\']Was this the same game that caused a huge argument here because someone refused to disclose the host of the pilot? (With said person leaving in a snit)[/quote]Somewhat (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11755&hl=affront\"). Chris didn't release the name on orders of one John Ricci.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'245326\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 05:38 PM\']Was this the same game that caused a huge argument here because someone refused to disclose the host of the pilot? (With said person leaving in a snit)[/quote]
I think most everyone would have said Ty who??? To be fair, maybe if the host would have been disclosed at the time, everyone would have known that the show was not going to go forward, as Ty had sewn up the hosting gig on MGC.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'245327\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 05:40 PM\'][quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'245326\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 04:38 PM\']Was this the same game that caused a huge argument here because someone refused to disclose the host of the pilot? (With said person leaving in a snit)[/quote]Somewhat (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11755&hl=affront\"). Chris didn't release the name on orders of one John Ricci.
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To be clear. I approached John first and I asked him if he'd mind if I post what I saw to the forum. He preferred I not, and I obliged.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'245328\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 02:41 PM\']To be fair, maybe if the host would have been disclosed at the time, everyone would have known that the show was not going to go forward, as Ty had sewn up the hosting gig on MGC.[/quote]
It's not uncommon at all for a show to go to air under a different host than the one who did the pilot.
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wait a sec. does this mean tv execs saw the CL and MGC pilots WITH THE SAME HOST and decided crosswords had a better format ?
/maybe merv griffin's combination lock woulda sold
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Pretty sure that Combination Lock's pilot was taped before MGC's, to be paired with The Joker's Wild.
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'245334\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 07:15 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'245328\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 02:41 PM\']To be fair, maybe if the host would have been disclosed at the time, everyone would have known that the show was not going to go forward, as Ty had sewn up the hosting gig on MGC.[/quote]
It's not uncommon at all for a show to go to air under a different host than the one who did the pilot.
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Sure, that must be why John asked for our input on who should host the show even after the pilot had been taped.
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'245338\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 09:06 PM\']Pretty sure that Combination Lock's pilot was taped before MGC's, to be paired with The Joker's Wild.
Tyshaun[/quote]
Correct. The pilot (and subsequent bru-ha-ha) was fall 2006. MGC wasn't announced until early-2007.
While we're on the subject, anyone know how TJW06 went?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245341\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 09:40 PM\'][quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'245338\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 09:06 PM\']Pretty sure that Combination Lock's pilot was taped before MGC's, to be paired with The Joker's Wild.
Tyshaun[/quote]
Correct. The pilot (and subsequent bru-ha-ha) was fall 2006. MGC wasn't announced until early-2007.
While we're on the subject, anyone know how TJW06 went?
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And who hosted? :)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'245340\' date=\'Aug 2 2010, 06:39 PM\']Sure, that must be why John asked for our input on who should host the show even after the pilot had been taped.[/quote]
Way to miss the point. (Unless you're just trolling, in which case, shame on me.)