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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Matt Ottinger on July 27, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
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Discuss. (http://\"http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=e9a41ac7-42ca-4975-8f6b-6eccc816924d\")
Also, there was a clip of Carey on the TV show the other night that doesn't appear to be on the website. Drew has lost a scary amount of weight. I mean, if he was a teenage girl, we'd be looking at treatment plans. If Calista Flockhart had one good meal, she might pass him.
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I think part of it probably has to do with the increased commercial time - what are we down to now - 38 minutes? In most of Barker's years he had a lot more time to "make it exciting".
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I think there's a lot of difference between being there, active, every day and sitting at home with nobody to
harass talk to. Ask a lot of athletes and they'll tell you that, except maybe to get a look at someone they're about to play, they don't sit around the house watching the sport they participate in.
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Drew has lost a scary amount of weight. I mean, if he was a teenage girl, we'd be looking at treatment plans. If Calista Flockhart had one good meal, she might pass him.
Time to loosen the lap-band (if that's what he had done).
I thought Barker's remarks were measured and fair.
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I too think Barker more or less hit the nail on the head..... while I do enjoy watching TPIR on occasion (I've never been a big fan), Drew seems to let his emotions at the moment dictate how he hosts the show. And for a show that's virtually played "against the house", it comes across as him not invested in producing a good product. The one thing that he consistently does that aggravates me: He tends to do delayed reveals on losses more often than wins.
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'245097\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 01:08 PM\']The one thing that he consistently does that aggravates me: He tends to do delayed reveals on losses more often than wins.
Tyshaun[/quote]
That doesn't even make sense because the host generally doesn't know the answers. I'm not sure how he could delay his reveals on losses more than wins.
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Carey: I never sexually harassed the models.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'245099\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 02:26 PM\'][quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'245097\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 01:08 PM\']The one thing that he consistently does that aggravates me: He tends to do delayed reveals on losses more often than wins.[/quote]
That doesn't even make sense because the host generally doesn't know the answers. I'm not sure how he could delay his reveals on losses more than wins.
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On most games where Drew peeks to see if the contestant has won or not, he often delays a few seconds if they have lost (often giving the contestant false hope), and immediately shows them if they've won.
Tyshaun
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While Drew is no Bob, with all due respect, wasn't it Barker himself who said that his replacement should not try to duplicate him? Drew is hosting the show in his own style, exactly what Bob wanted from him.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'245094\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 01:45 PM\']I thought Barker's remarks were measured and fair.[/quote]
The one time I was ever at a taping, I marveled at how he always seemed to have a perfect answer to whatever question he'd field from the audience during commercial breaks. Then I realized that there are probably about a dozen questions that he's heard a million times each. You know he's heard "How's Drew doing?" from every stranger he's bumped into in the past three years, whether they had a camera or not. Good for him to have a measured, fair response ready that's not just standard show-biz pablum.
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'245101\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 01:43 PM\']On most games where Drew peeks to see if the contestant has won or not, he often delays a few seconds if they have lost (often giving the contestant false hope), and immediately shows them if they've won.
Tyshaun[/quote]
I've seen this more so on close Showcase overbids. He delays it, then mutters, agonizes over the overbid, and then congratulates the winner as an afterthought.
Barker's remarks, in my opinion, are fair. Drew could definitely improve on how to take a loss, and that would help the mood of the show a lot. After a loss, you need to pick the energy back up, and you can't do that by agonizing over it and limping into a commercial. You don't have to be Barker himself, but saying something upbeat before the break when NOT promoting priceisright.com helps.
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One wonders whether Barker knew at the time that the photog was from TMZ and that his remarks would wind up on the air, or whether he thought the photog was just another tourist with a camcorder.
wasn't it Barker himself who said that his replacement should not try to duplicate him?
Bob said that before Drew started doing the show. Now that he's seen Drew doing it, he gives opinions such as the one you heard today.
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http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/07/27/...ker-drew-carey/ (http://\"http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/07/27/bob-barker-drew-carey/\")
-Barker says "I would not criticize FremantleMedia (which produces the show for the network) because I have a sizable royalty that I am paid every year this show is on, and it’s going on for years".
There were rumors for years that Barker owned a piece of the show. Does this pretty much confirm it?
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'245109\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 08:37 PM\']There were rumors for years that Barker owned a piece of the show. Does this pretty much confirm it?[/quote]
Given the fact that he had a hand in the making of that best-of set that was released by the now-defunct BCI, he acts like he does.
I can only pray that when he dies, his estate (assuming that he has one) will not follow suit (disowning any episodes that featured fur coats, disowning any episodes that featured Holly Hallstrom, my FAVORITE of the original TPIR models, and disowning any episodes that featured Rod Roddy).
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There were rumors for years that Barker owned a piece of the show. Does this pretty much confirm it?
I don't think so. It could simply be Barker blowing smoke in his damage-control efforts. I've never seen anything in any of the SEC filings I've read to indicate he ever had an ownership stake in the show or anything more than a personal services contract. Syd, on the other hand, may own a small piece of it having been one of the founders of All-American TV.
WRT Drew, I think I saw a recent shot of him on TMZ today and he didn't look like the advanced anorexia case some have made him out to be. He is slimmer and there will be some excess baggage from his heavier days.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'245111\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 07:53 PM\']I've never seen anything in any of the SEC filings I've read to indicate he ever had an ownership stake in the show or anything more than a personal services contract.[/quote]
In all honesty, I skipped the reading in my Corporations class when we got to SEC requirements (since they're not on the bar exam and I never had any intent to practice corporate law), but it's my understanding that ownership in an SEC-regulated corporation doesn't have to be disclosed unless that person or entity owns more than 5%.
So sizable - probably not.... but he may still own something.
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IIRC the document I read was not a regular 10-K or 10-Q but a separate document covering the sale of MGP to All American.
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'245110\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 08:41 PM\']I can only pray that when he dies, his estate (assuming that he has one) will not follow suit[/quote]
I don't think he has one. His wife died in 1981, and as far as I know, he doesn't have any kids. Not that it's our business, but I can't think of anyone else he could leave an estate to...
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245119\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 10:20 PM\']I don't think he has one. His wife died in 1981, and as far as I know, he doesn't have any kids. Not that it's our business, but I can't think of anyone else he could leave an estate to...[/quote]
His foundation. A trust set up for his pets. A university.
A man like Barker is not going to let his estate escheat to the state. Even if he didn't have a will, he does have some collaterals that would inherit - I think he has some half-blood relatives that I've seen at tapings before.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245119\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 11:20 PM\'][quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'245110\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 08:41 PM\']I can only pray that when he dies, his estate (assuming that he has one) will not follow suit[/quote]
I don't think he has one. His wife died in 1981, and as far as I know, he doesn't have any kids. Not that it's our business, but I can't think of anyone else he could leave an estate to...
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Interestingly, on Wikipedia's site, it says Bob and Dorothy Jo have three children who live in Chicago. Yeah, I know . . . .
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'245120\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 10:36 PM\']His foundation. A trust set up for his pets. A university.[/quote]
Betty White.
ObBarkerComments: Fair enough comments, but as said on a different board, each host has a different style. Might work for some, might not. I am on agreement that Drew could try and bring out drama a bit more for the winners but there might not be time to do that.
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[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'245132\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 07:38 AM\']I am on agreement that Drew could try and bring out drama a bit more for the winners but there might not be time to do that.[/quote]
The show is already more heavily edited than it ever was under Barker, largely because of things that Drew does or doesn't do. As much as I dislike his refusal to aim for live-to-tape, if he wanted to add more excitement to his reveals, there's no reason he couldn't -- they could just leave that in and cut something else.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'245120\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 11:36 PM\']His foundation. A trust set up for his pets. A university.[/quote]
With the donations he's made to UCLA, I could see that happening. Either that or Drury, his alma mater in Missouri.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'245120\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 11:36 PM\']His foundation. A trust set up for his pets. A university.[/quote]
Places where Bob Barker's money might go.
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*DING*
DC: Hurry Charlie, Hurry!
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I looked up Barker's house on some real estate look-up site and it gave "Barker Family Trust" as the owner of the property.
I wonder how his dog is going to spend all that money.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'245153\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 12:36 PM\']I wonder how his dog is going to spend all that money.[/quote]
research on spay-or-neutering reversal
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'245153\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 12:36 PM\']I wonder how his dog is going to spend all that money.[/quote]
Legal settlements. Those bitches!
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http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/28/bo...ize-drew-carey/ (http://\"http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/28/bob-barker-i-would-not-criticize-drew-carey/\")
Here's another article where Bob elaborates on Drew, defending that he was not criticizing Drew or anyone else involved with Price.
While Bob would be foolhardy to give an elaborate critique of Drew's performance, there's a LOT infered by him saying that "He does things differently... I try make it exciting, and Drew just plays the games." Still, he's not saying one way or another that Drew is bad or good... he DID say Drew was DIFFERENT.
In another taped interview he also said that Drew has a calmer approach to the game (he must've not been watching it lately, where Drew has been at least giving the impression that he's excited to be there... although that excitement is always inconsistent.) However, Bob also said that Ralph Edwards' approach to T or C was very manic and excitable, and Bob was neither manic or excitable when he did T or C.
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And to finally finish this silly thing off, Drew responded (http://\"http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/28/drew-carey-bob-barker-price-is-right-better-host-feud-video/\") to an interrogative TMZ photog yesterday with "Bob Barker's great... I don't think he really meant it," referring to Bob's later "clean-up" efforts. "He's Bob Barker, man, he can say whatever he wants." And that's really the only intelligent thing to take from that video, as it ends with the photog suggesting that the show should be broadcast in 3D so that the Plinko chip game will come flying out at us.
TMZ's track record on accurately reporting pop culture events: Awesome. The journalistic efforts of their cameramen? Not so much.
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It's no wonder that both Drew and Bob (and possibly any other celeb caught by the TMZ paparazzi (sp?) try to as kindly as possible brush off the cameramen. Total waste of a couple minutes hearing asinine comments like that.
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I think it was the same dude doing both interviews. Listen as he refers to "the plinko chip game" in both interviews.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'245086\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 11:39 AM\']Also, there was a clip of Carey on the TV show the other night that doesn't appear to be on the website. Drew has lost a scary amount of weight. I mean, if he was a teenage girl, we'd be looking at treatment plans. If Calista Flockhart had one good meal, she might pass him.[/quote]
Thing is, this is on purpose. (http://\"http://omg.yahoo.com/news/drew-carey-drops-70-lbs-i-got-sick-of-being-fat/44733?nc\")
It's a drastic drop, but he looks damn good, and hopefully that will give him a lot more energy. :)
In the article, he quips, he wants to lose more weight so he can be looking that great at 86.
Friendly barbs being traded, is this?
The Inquisitive One
/congrats to Drew on his latest health success
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Another story on Less Carey. (http://\"http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/07/30/drew.carey.weight.loss.ppl/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn\")
I haven't decided if he looks more like Orville Redenbacher or Gary Busey with better teeth and glasses.
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'245237\' date=\'Jul 30 2010, 01:26 PM\']Another story on Less Carey. (http://\"http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/07/30/drew.carey.weight.loss.ppl/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn\")
I haven't decided if he looks more like Orville Redenbacher or Gary Busey with better teeth and glasses.[/quote]
Interesting that the author didn't mention anything about him being the current TPiR host. It almost makes him seem like he hasn't done anything since his sitcom ended, and that was a good five or so years ago...
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'245237\' date=\'Jul 30 2010, 01:26 PM\']Another story on Less Carey. (http://\"http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/07/30/drew.carey.weight.loss.ppl/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn\")
I haven't decided if he looks more like Orville Redenbacher or Gary Busey with better teeth and glasses.[/quote]
He looks like Bud Collyer with glasses.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'245240\' date=\'Jul 30 2010, 01:36 PM\'][quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'245237\' date=\'Jul 30 2010, 01:26 PM\']Another story on Less Carey. (http://\"http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/07/30/drew.carey.weight.loss.ppl/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn\")
I haven't decided if he looks more like Orville Redenbacher or Gary Busey with better teeth and glasses.[/quote]
He looks like Bud Collyer with glasses.
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I was thinking a cross between Bud and Dave Garroway.
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Dave Garroway:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:/...tx=35&ty=92 (http://\"http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.askinman.com/Dave%2520Garroway.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freewebs.com/brasscity/theaters.htm&usg=__jIU44Rb83gtiIU_upNq8au81QMg=&h=805&w=443&sz=48&hl=en&start=0&tbnid=ZftIpEw4irvq3M:&tbnh=153&tbnw=80&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddave%2Bgarroway%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1400%26bih%3D865%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=584&ei=wHFTTLuXLYa6sQOfsYXaAg&page=1&ndsp=39&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=35&ty=92\")
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So if Bob Barker was interviewed in the desert, would he then be Sandy Frank?
*rimshot*
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[quote name=\'chrisholland03\' post=\'245250\' date=\'Jul 30 2010, 09:01 PM\']So if Bob Barker was interviewed in the desert, would he then be Sandy Frank?
*rimshot*[/quote]
Where's my gong? (http://\"http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upnextinsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/129140012427855124.jpg&imgrefurl=http://upnextinsports.com/upcoming/page/65/&usg=__l_iUldvnh_YmU_YMDsUJm6Hvyt4=&h=449&w=500&sz=32&hl=en&start=21&tbnid=1tKKWknql3WDFM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dturrible%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1201%26bih%3D570%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C456&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=885&vpy=233&dur=1262&hovh=213&hovw=237&tx=164&ty=102&ei=oGRUTMT8M4nGsAOrj5XaAg&page=2&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:21&biw=1201&bih=570\")
Pardon the grammatical error. ;-)
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'245237\' date=\'Jul 30 2010, 12:26 PM\']Another story on Less Carey. (http://\"http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/07/30/drew.carey.weight.loss.ppl/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn\")
I haven't decided if he looks more like Orville Redenbacher or Gary Busey with better teeth and glasses.[/quote]
With the bow tie, I was thinking Bud Collyer.