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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: cmjb13 on June 03, 2010, 12:12:50 PM
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According to this thread (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,14931.0.html\"), a new TPIR announcer is coming soon.
If true, pity they didn't get rid of the host first.
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Source other than hearsay?
Charles Atkins
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That thread made my head really, really hurt.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'241830\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 09:22 AM\']That thread made my head really, really hurt.[/quote]
And no one said Rich was like a second daddy to them. Imagine if someone had.
If true, pity they didn't get rid of the host first.
I see the headlights coming.
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A) With Feud moving to Orlando, is Burton going with them?
B) Get Randy West and all is forgiven about announcing the last six years.
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If Rich Fields should ever leave "TPiR", he should take over the "WoF" announcing job once Charlie O' Donnell decides to retire.
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A) With Feud moving to Orlando, is Burton going with them?
It depends, really. Does anybody know if Burton has any other commitments that would prevent his going to Orlando?
B) Get Randy West and all is forgiven about announcing the last six years.
Rich wasn't that bad. Granted, he got worse in the last two seasons, but...
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241857\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 01:29 PM\']Anyway, this is pretty bad.[/quote]
Opinions vary.
Anybody want to ask Rich about this up-front?
Without knowing if this career decision was his choice or one made for him? Your level of compassion is truly breathtaking.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241857\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 04:29 PM\']Anybody want to ask Rich about this up-front?[/quote]
Without knowing the full story? Think about that for a second.
Or Drew? Or Kathy Greco? Or do you think they would just ignore it and/or remove the comments?
They would probably tell you they're not at liberty to say, if they even entertain the question.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'241858\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 04:44 PM\']
Anybody want to ask Rich about this up-front?
Without knowing if this career decision was his choice or one made for him? Your level of compassion is truly breathtaking.[/quote]
1) I was being sarcastic. Obviously I won't ask him up-front.
2) I recall hearing that having the announcer position on Price was Rich's dream job. If so, then I wouldn't think he would leave voluntarily unless there was something really big.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241857\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 04:29 PM\']Anyway, this is pretty bad. Anybody want to ask Rich about this up-front?[/quote]
I volunteer you for the job. While you're at it, you can ask if he's stopped beating his wife.
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241861\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 04:59 PM\']Obviously I wouldn't ask him up-front.[/quote]
Which is exactly why I volunteer you.
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'241828\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 12:12 PM\']If true, pity they didn't get rid of the host first.[/quote]
Neither Rich nor Drew are the root of the problem, imo.
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Well, this is a perfect time to do it if TPTB wanted to go with a new person- they're on a almost 2-month taping break, so if they have someone in mind, they can get that person acclimated to the show and do some run-throughs before they go in front of a live audience...apparently, the original poster there has given some accurate information before, so I think it's probably legit. It's a bit convenient though that Drew is most likely out of the country when this hit (the taping break was partly so he could attend the World Cup in South Africa)- he could deny he knew anything about this, like he did when the EP got fired a couple of years back. Coincidence?
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[quote name=\'catkins522\' post=\'241829\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 11:18 AM\']Source other than hearsay?
Charles Atkins[/quote]
Not officially confirmed by John or Marc, but the news was posted to g-r by the same account who first broke the news of both Mike Richards's hiring and Bart Eskander's firing.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241861\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 01:59 PM\']1) I was being sarcastic. Obviously I wouldn't ask him up-front.[/quote]
I don't buy that for a second. Especially since you asked if they would remove the comments.
If so, then I wouldn't think he would leave voluntarily.
Then perhaps you might understand why it might not be in the best taste to ask that.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241861\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 04:59 PM\']1) I was being sarcastic. Obviously I wouldn't ask him up-front.[/quote]
Emoticons are your friend. ;-) <-----see?!-----> :D
2) I recall hearing that having the announcer position on Price was Rich's dream job. If so, then I wouldn't think he would leave voluntarily.
Possibly, but that has nothing to do with anything. It's easy to read between the lines, but that's not to say maybe something came up that prevents him from being available. Might as well wait for the story instead of speculating.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'241866\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 02:40 PM\'][quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241861\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 04:59 PM\']1) I was being sarcastic. Obviously I wouldn't ask him up-front.[/quote]
Emoticons are your friend. ;-) <-----see?!-----> :D
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"Oops, I posted something stupid. Think, Dan, think...uhh....I was being sarcastic! Yeah, that's it. These bozos'll buy that. Sarcasm!"
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[quote name=\'Kevin Prather\' post=\'241871\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 05:20 PM\']"Oops, I posted something stupid. Think, Dan, think...uhh....I was being sarcastic! Yeah, that's it. These bozos'll buy that. Sarcasm!"[/quote]
Well played, Mauer.
/I'm not even allowed in Mexico.
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[quote name=\'Kevin Prather\' post=\'241871\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 06:20 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'241866\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 02:40 PM\'][quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241861\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 04:59 PM\']1) I was being sarcastic. Obviously I wouldn't ask him up-front.[/quote]
Emoticons are your friend. ;-) <-----see?!-----> :D
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"Oops, I posted something stupid. Think, Dan, think...uhh....I was being sarcastic! Yeah, that's it. These bozos'll buy that. Sarcasm!"
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Oh, don't think that didn't cross my mind either. ;-)
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ASSUMING that this news is true...
Whether Drew has anything to do with it or not, CBS or higher ups may want a "funny guy" that can compliment Drew, and perhaps participate in the showcases, a la Johnny or Rod (as long as the new guy isn't subjected to embarassing things like Rich was for part of season 37) Let's face it, the showcases are back to being pretty dull and straightforward as they were towards the end of Barker's run. I wonder if they'll audition announcers again, or if they already have someone in mind.
Jonathan Mangum is no Jay Stewart in terms of his announcing, but he's certainly not a BAD announcer. Wayne needs a funny guy to bounce off of and Jonathan works out nicely.
Randy West is a great announcer, and having met him a while ago, he is VERY VERY funny and a master at impersonating other announcers (especially Johnny Olson).
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'241864\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 05:29 PM\']Not officially confirmed by John or Marc, but the news was posted to g-r by the same account who first broke the news of both Mike Richards's hiring and Bart Eskander's firing.[/quote]
Interesting use of the word "officially", since neither John nor Marc work for the show. The G-R thread starter seems to be pretty well-connected, as are several other people who have weighed in, directly or obliquely. Any additional information helps, including anything John or Marc may learn, but it's "official" when Fremantle announces it, not when a fan does, no matter how connected or established he might be.
Meanwhile, I'm satisfied that it's for real, though I don't really have any huge reaction to the news either way. Rich seems like a nice enough guy, one who loved his job and seemed to enjoy (or at least tolerate) the excesses of certain elements of the fandom. On a personal level, you hate to see anybody lose a job, but in a field where nothing is guaranteed, he's had a really good run. If they really think that a change of announcers is what's right for the show, then more power to them. As so many people forget, it's their show.
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Based on everything I've read and heard for the past two years from various places, somebody has had it out for Rich for several years, since at least Barker's retirement (perhaps even earlier).
Now you've got the perfect storm - effectively, everybody that has come in to protect your job is gone (Bob & Roger), and the only person that could possibly have some influence on keeping you is gone on a 2-month vacation in the southern hemisphere. Perfect time to pull out the hatchet...
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'241883\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 07:56 PM\']Based on everything I've read and heard for the past two years from various places, somebody has had it out for Rich for several years[/quote]
To be honest, the fact that there are still senior members of the old guard left makes me think either they really know how to politic or that the bureaucratic process runs slowly.
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'241878\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 05:35 PM\']... CBS or higher ups may want a "funny guy" that can compliment Drew ...[/quote]
I'd love to hear Jim Gaffigan or Demetri Martin tell Droo how lovely his tie is, or that his breath smells like an apple orchard full of frolicking unicorns with pine tree air fresheners tied around their necks.
Anyhoo, I hope the news is true. Like Matt said, it sucks when someone gets fired, but I'm pretty sick of hearing him puking up prize descriptions.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'241900\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 07:39 PM\']I'd love to hear Jim Gaffigan or Demetri Martin tell Droo how lovely his tie is, or that his breath smells like an apple orchard full of frolicking unicorns with pine tree air fresheners tied around their necks.[/quote]
I just wanna hear Gaffigan read the description on Hot Pockets.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'241889\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 07:49 PM\']To be honest, the fact that there are still senior members of the old guard left makes me think either they really know how to politic or that the bureaucratic process runs slowly.[/quote]
Maybe a little bit of both.
The Human Resources department in most major corporations is usually atrocious. I can remember, as a young man, my father, who was a manager in a major oil company, attempted to get a downright awful employee fired... It took *THREE YEARS*.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'241903\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 08:30 PM\'][quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'241889\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 07:49 PM\']To be honest, the fact that there are still senior members of the old guard left makes me think either they really know how to politic or that the bureaucratic process runs slowly.[/quote]
Maybe a little bit of both.
The Human Resources department in most major corporations is usually atrocious. I can remember, as a young man, my father, who was a manager in a major oil company, attempted to get a downright awful employee fired... It took *THREE YEARS*.
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Takes about 7-8 now.
/unless the offending behavior is flagrant enough
//then it usually results in an "offer" to leave or buyout
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'241879\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 05:50 PM\'][quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'241864\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 05:29 PM\']Not officially confirmed by John or Marc, but the news was posted to g-r by the same account who first broke the news of both Mike Richards's hiring and Bart Eskander's firing.[/quote]
Interesting use of the word "officially", since neither John nor Marc work for the show. The G-R thread starter seems to be pretty well-connected, as are several other people who have weighed in, directly or obliquely. Any additional information helps, including anything John or Marc may learn, but it's "official" when Fremantle announces it, not when a fan does, no matter how connected or established he might be. [/quote]
I'm with you on this one, but it seems like nobody over there seems to want to admit that this is true until John comes in and puts a dagger through their innocent little hearts.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'241879\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 06:50 PM\']Interesting use of the word "officially", since neither John nor Marc work for the show. The G-R thread starter seems to be pretty well-connected, as are several other people who have weighed in, directly or obliquely. Any additional information helps, including anything John or Marc may learn, but it's "official" when Fremantle announces it, not when a fan does, no matter how connected or established he might be.
Meanwhile, I'm satisfied that it's for real, though I don't really have any huge reaction to the news either way. Rich seems like a nice enough guy, one who loved his job and seemed to enjoy (or at least tolerate) the excesses of certain elements of the fandom. On a personal level, you hate to see anybody lose a job, but in a field where nothing is guaranteed, he's had a really good run.[/quote]
Totally agree with you, Matt. Rich held the job for six years, and was a great announcer from his debut until around the beginning of Season 37, but then he got involved in the "Drewcases" and just looked like a moronic suck-up (hell, one Showcase even made him dyslexic!) -- and he never really stopped. I don't really mind his "Gone Wild" videos, though.
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'241879\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 06:50 PM\']If [Fremantle] really think that a change of announcers is what's right for the show, then more power to them. As so many people forget, it's their show.[/quote]
And therein lies the problem -- this is Fremantle, a company who has proven (several times) that they're not exactly the best at doing things well/right. Oddly, though, all their current productions appear to be the exception, although this is debatable (the whole Family Feud/STILL-$5-a-point-in-a-Fast-Money-loss thing comes to mind, but that's for another time).
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Oddly, I've thought Rich had gotten better this past season, and was making for a good fit with the show and what it currently is. Perhaps I've been watching on the wrong days.
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'241855\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 04:26 PM\']If Rich Fields should ever leave "TPiR", he should take over the "WoF" announcing job once Charlie O' Donnell decides to retire.[/quote]
Id say they'll just replace Charlie with Vanna for the rest of the announcing skills. They seem to be using her for more and more.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'241901\' date=\'Jun 3 2010, 10:54 PM\']I just wanna hear Gaffigan read the description on Hot Pockets.[/quote]
You win.
Although the show will have one less pricing game due to the length of said description.
--Mike
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LARadio.com is reporting it. It's just a one-line item and visible to subscribers only.
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'241943\' date=\'Jun 4 2010, 10:23 PM\']LARadio.com is reporting it. It's just a one-line item and visible to subscribers only.[/quote]
I've always liked Rich. They fired the wrong guy.
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I wasn't a fan of his vocal style at all, but became a little more of a fan through following him on Twitter. He had a certain genuineness about him. I also liked the rapport he was developing with Drew. I believe he'll move on and find new success elsewhere, though maybe not as an announcer.
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Hopefully in the future, Rich will find a deal just as lucrative as Price.
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[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'241962\' date=\'Jun 5 2010, 01:43 PM\']Hopefully in the future, Rich will find a deal just as lucrative as Price.[/quote]
I can see it now, him demanding that the Jackpot Round sponsor be changed back to Hot Pockets so he can recite a long spiel about them.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'241967\' date=\'Jun 5 2010, 05:45 PM\']After reading thru the thread, I have a wild theory about Rich's departure from Price/Fremantle which may or may not be too far out of the realm of scenarios:
In Fremantle's mind, Rich was not the right "sound" for TPIR anymore. They gave him a option of moving to the announcer seat on "Pyramid" -- should CBS pick it up this fall -- for less money. Rich refused, so Fremantle showed him the door. It's the same tactic the major (evil) radio conglomerates has been doing to their air talent in the last 5 years -- a less-notable role for less money.
I think Rich would definitely be a better fit for Pyramid than for Price, if that was indeed Fremantle's thinking.
Regardless of the circumstances regarding his departure, at least he has his Meteorology career he can fall back on.[/quote]
Except for Fremantle having nothing to do with the production of "Pyramid"
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'241970\' date=\'Jun 5 2010, 04:05 PM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'241967\' date=\'Jun 5 2010, 05:45 PM\']After reading thru the thread, I have a wild theory about Rich's departure from Price/Fremantle which may or may not be too far out of the realm of scenarios:
In Fremantle's mind, Rich was not the right "sound" for TPIR anymore. They gave him a option of moving to the announcer seat on "Pyramid" -- should CBS pick it up this fall -- for less money. Rich refused, so Fremantle showed him the door. It's the same tactic the major (evil) radio conglomerates has been doing to their air talent in the last 5 years -- a less-notable role for less money.
I think Rich would definitely be a better fit for Pyramid than for Price, if that was indeed Fremantle's thinking.
Regardless of the circumstances regarding his departure, at least he has his Meteorology career he can fall back on.[/quote]
Except for Fremantle having nothing to do with the production of "Pyramid"
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Sorry about that, Chief... I don't know why I had it in my head that Fremantle was w/Pyramid.
Strike that comment from the records.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'241971\' date=\'Jun 5 2010, 06:30 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'241970\' date=\'Jun 5 2010, 04:05 PM\']Fremantle ha
nothing to do with the production of "Pyramid"[/quote]Sorry about that, Chief... I don't know why I had it in my head that Fremantle was w/Pyramid. Strike that comment from the records.[/quote]
Tim, perhaps you were thinking of Emeril Lagasse's cooking game show, also in contention for the slot? That show is being produced by Fremantle.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'242004\' date=\'Jun 6 2010, 04:33 PM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'241971\' date=\'Jun 5 2010, 06:30 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'241970\' date=\'Jun 5 2010, 04:05 PM\']Fremantle ha
nothing to do with the production of "Pyramid"[/quote]Sorry about that, Chief... I don't know why I had it in my head that Fremantle was w/Pyramid. Strike that comment from the records.[/quote]
Tim, perhaps you were thinking of Emeril Lagasse's cooking game show, also in contention for the slot? That show is being produced by Fremantle.[/quote]Maybe. Because the two have so much in common.