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Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: jmenjes on November 09, 2009, 12:08:38 PM
Per Kotaku, the new season of 1 vs, 100 Live begins November 19. (http://\"http://kotaku.com/5400328/1-vs-100-season-2-premieres-next-week\")  It starts with an Extended Play session beginning at 8:00 pm ET.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: Hastin on November 09, 2009, 12:33:44 PM
There's going to be some changes this season as well (new Set for Extended Play - for example).

Check them out at the blog:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/1vs100/blogs.htm (http://\"http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/1vs100/blogs.htm\")
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: clemon79 on November 09, 2009, 12:42:59 PM
The first comment in that thread mentions a bug that let a guy get into the Mob faster.

I'm curious to know if anyone here knows what that bug was, or if this is just another Kotaku user talking out of his ass.

(And you have my word that I won't report it, if you do know. I wouldn't have the first idea where to do so, anyhow.)
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: Speedy G on November 09, 2009, 08:30:13 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'230198\' date=\'Nov 9 2009, 12:42 PM\']The first comment in that thread mentions a bug that let a guy get into the Mob faster.

I'm curious to know if anyone here knows what that bug was, or if this is just another Kotaku user talking out of his ass.

(And you have my word that I won't report it, if you do know. I wouldn't have the first idea where to do so, anyhow.)[/quote]
Well, not really a "bug" to exploit, but rather a hole in their Mob/One selection method.

To set up the mob/one, they'd rank everyone by one or more of three stats: participation, accuracy, and speed.  They'd apply different weights to each of the factors, then take the top ranked players (minus those already chosen during the session) as the Mob/One.

The problem lies in the "speed" ranking.  The speed ranking supposedly didn't care whether you got answers right or not.  So, a number of people completely disregarded the questions, and hammered on the first answer button to maximize their computer ranking in the "speed" category.  The weighting of the three stats changed with every new One/Mob selection, so it was then just a matter of waiting for master control to draw up a game prioritizing speed over the other factors.

I even read a few anecdotes of people taking this to the extreme.  They'd jump into the last Extended Play before the Live show proper, hammer on the first answer for maybe three or four questions, then successfully end up with a seat in the Mob sometime during the show.

You can read finer details of the selection process here (http://\"http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/1vs100/skillbasedrules.htm\"), at least until they update for the new season.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: clemon79 on November 09, 2009, 08:32:55 PM
Very interesting. Thanks! :)
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: jmenjes on November 13, 2009, 06:12:22 PM
The 1 vs 100 Live blog (http://\"http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/1vs100/blogs.htm\") posted an update today, explaining the selection process for being The One or in The Mob for the new season.  It'll be based on score only.

There are three different criteria for selection of Mob or One:  your score for the entire season, score for that week's games, or your score in the last game on the Live show.  The criteria they'll use will rotate from game to game.  The top scorer based on the selected criteria becomes The One, with the next 100 high scores making up the Mob.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: clemon79 on November 13, 2009, 06:17:20 PM
[quote name=\'jmenjes\' post=\'230547\' date=\'Nov 13 2009, 03:12 PM\']The top scorer based on the selected criteria becomes The One, with the next 100 high scores making up the Mob.[/quote]
That's a bit of a shame, because it still means you either have to play a buttload either that week or that season to have a chance, since the one-off "last game" thing means those robots with perfect scores and instant answers are the only ones with any chance to get on, and an only-occasional player now has NO shot at all.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on November 13, 2009, 09:24:03 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'230549\' date=\'Nov 13 2009, 05:17 PM\'][quote name=\'jmenjes\' post=\'230547\' date=\'Nov 13 2009, 03:12 PM\']The top scorer based on the selected criteria becomes The One, with the next 100 high scores making up the Mob.[/quote]
That's a bit of a shame, because it still means you either have to play a buttload either that week or that season to have a chance, since the one-off "last game" thing means those robots with perfect scores and instant answers are the only ones with any chance to get on, and an only-occasional player now has NO shot at all.
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Seconded. I don't play a whole lot, but I usually play pretty well each session, and I'd like to have some sort of chance of making it in. I'd rather them do it based on average, so even someone who only plays 2 or 3 times a week has a fighting chance.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: Brig Bother on November 20, 2009, 05:42:22 PM
This was on in the UK this evening, the new software is massively, MASSIVELY buggy, it crashed my XBox no less than four times in an hour (details on Bother's Bar). Presumably it will be the same software your side of the pond.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: Jumpondees on November 20, 2009, 09:14:08 PM
[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'230981\' date=\'Nov 20 2009, 05:42 PM\']This was on in the UK this evening, the new software is massively, MASSIVELY buggy, it crashed my XBox no less than four times in an hour (details on Bother's Bar). Presumably it will be the same software your side of the pond.[/quote]

I played the "extended play" session last night and had no problem other than seeing a couple of questions repeated during the night.  

I plan on being on during the "LIVE" show @ 10pm EST...Although I have read thru Facebook that the game is having a few issues...We'll see what happens later.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: jmenjes on November 20, 2009, 10:26:25 PM
I was able to get into the game tonight with no worries.

Second game in, I made it into the Mob.  And I promptly missed the first question of the game.  Ugh.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: Jumpondees on November 20, 2009, 10:31:37 PM
So far so good...No problems getting in or playing.  It's going so good that I'm in the mob as we speak....Lets hope I can get something out of it.

Update:  As soon as I posted this, "The One" bombed out.  I was one of 40 that got 80 Microsoft Points and this week's featured Xbox Live Arcade game, "Uno Rush".

On the down side, not enough points to pick up Beatles: Rock Band DLC, but I did get a game I had thought about buying and didn't.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: clemon79 on November 20, 2009, 10:54:40 PM
[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'230997\' date=\'Nov 20 2009, 07:31 PM\']Update:  As soon as I posted this, "The One" bombed out.  I was one of 40 that got 80 Microsoft Points and this week's featured Xbox Live Arcade game, "Uno Rush".[/quote]
Uno Rush is really excellent. Beats the hell out of the poor bastards who won "A Kingdom For Keflings." :)
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: Jumpondees on November 20, 2009, 11:04:22 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'231001\' date=\'Nov 20 2009, 10:54 PM\']Uno Rush is really excellent. Beats the hell out of the poor bastards who won "A Kingdom For Keflings." :)[/quote]


I would agree with that.  My other half downloaded the demo, and after I let out a incredulous WTF after seeing it,  I very quickly demanded that vaporware be deleted from my hard drive post-haste.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: jmenjes on November 20, 2009, 11:58:47 PM
Arrrgh...just missed winning Uno Rush by less than 100 points in the last game of the night.

Hopefully I have better luck on Tuesday.  Congrats on your win, Jumpondees.
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: Setsunael on November 21, 2009, 04:26:51 AM
[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'230981\' date=\'Nov 20 2009, 06:42 PM\']This was on in the UK this evening, the new software is massively, MASSIVELY buggy, it crashed my XBox no less than four times in an hour (details on Bother's Bar). Presumably it will be the same software your side of the pond.[/quote]

I'm afraid that could suggest that your 360 is near the end of the road - do you have similar problems with other games ?

French version had its first major winner last Thursday - 10,000 MS points and a prize (unknown, as Microsoft has been too lazy to update T&C for season two on their website) - did it happened in your local versions already ?
Title: 1 vs 100 Live returns next week
Post by: Brig Bother on November 21, 2009, 07:16:55 AM
[quote name=\'Setsunael\' post=\'231009\' date=\'Nov 21 2009, 09:26 AM\'][quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'230981\' date=\'Nov 20 2009, 06:42 PM\']This was on in the UK this evening, the new software is massively, MASSIVELY buggy, it crashed my XBox no less than four times in an hour (details on Bother's Bar). Presumably it will be the same software your side of the pond.[/quote]

I'm afraid that could suggest that your 360 is near the end of the road - do you have similar problems with other games ?

French version had its first major winner last Thursday - 10,000 MS points and a prize (unknown, as Microsoft has been too lazy to update T&C for season two on their website) - did it happened in your local versions already ?
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Goodness, I hope not, I thought I had one of the more-recent non-RRODing ones! It did seem to be a problem (UK one only, perhaps) as one of the XBox Live team recently tweeted that the problem has been identified and resolved - it seemed to pretty widespread as I read at one point the crowd went down from 15,000 to under 1,000 between games.

I had no idea what the top prize was at all last night as, as you point out, they've not updated the online Ts and Cs and most bafflingly we're not actually having a live host at all this season, despite the pre-recorded hostess throwing over to him between games. I know it was a bit hit and miss wheher you got the audio or not last time around, but even so.

There's been no top prize winner in the UK game yet as far as I know, although I've seen it get down to 1 vs 1 a few times.