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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: polo23 on October 18, 2009, 03:57:44 AM
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I'd say the most pre-emptions now would be WNEM in Saginaw, MI. I wish CBS Television Distribution would have those programs pulled from stations that pre-empt the first-run episodes and give them to ones that would air them regularly.
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In my neck of the woods, WJLA does it quite often...though these days, they usually pre-empt Wheel and show J!.
Thanks to WJLA, I missed out on WOF's million-dollar winner.
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My local ABC affiliate(WPVI-TV) failed to show the rest of the 10/9/09 episode of Wheel because of a strange glitch that caused it to revert back to the beginning of the "tape" several times. This lasted for the rest of the half-hour after showing the first segment. I wish I knew who won that game. Oh well. This was the first that I ran across an "unscheduled" pre-emption due to a technical problem. Scheduled ones I don't mind because of football or the November elections. It's the ones like that one from 10/09 that bothers me.
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When WoF used to air on WTMJ (before the mega affiliate switch), during football season, they would always preempt WoF for a weekly Packers show.
Today, they preempt a half-hour of local news.
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I think WNEM's owners The Meredith Corporation should stick to publishing Better Homes & Gardens Magazine, and sell WNEM-TV. And WOF and J!, should move back in Flint to WJRT-TV ,the ABC O&O. I hope WNEM's contract runs out in 2010 so that WJRT can get them back.
KXTV 10 bumps WOF and J! for Kings games sending one, the other, or both to after Jimmy Kimmel or they are not shown that day at all. I hope CBS moves WOF and J! to NBC affiliate KCRA-TV or CBS O&O KOVR-TV. Our Sacramento Kings should have stayed at KMAX 31, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, the Maloofs had to move them to a News 10, and it was because of a remark about the Kings by a KMAX personality that pissed off the Maloofs.
And as for the DC bumping of WOF on WJLA ABC 7, why is that?. Crappy infomercials?. Cheesy news specials?. WJLA should stop pre-empting WOF. Don't they know it's syndication's number 1 show?.
I hope there's no WOF and J! bumps on weekdays where you are, but I could be wrong.
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WNEM is such a strong station in this market that people will watch it during infomercials.
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'228820\' date=\'Oct 19 2009, 03:22 AM\']My local ABC affiliate(WPVI-TV) failed to show the rest of the 10/9/09 episode of Wheel because of a strange glitch that caused it to revert back to the beginning of the "tape" several times. This lasted for the rest of the half-hour after showing the first segment.[/quote]
Remember when stations would put up a "Please Stand By" slide in event of technical difficulties, while they fix the problem? Today, it seems that stations would just let the problem go and let it air as is.
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Really lucky here - only scheduled preemptions are for Bears preseason. I can't remember a time when a local event preempted something that late. Network - well, that's a different story.
Weekend run - they only air Jeopardy (with an infomercial preceding it), and it doesn't seem to air very regularly anymore. Usually 7:30, sometimes 7, sometimes not at all with either network overrrun or two infomercials.
[quote name=\'rugrats1\' post=\'228833\' date=\'Oct 19 2009, 12:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'228820\' date=\'Oct 19 2009, 03:22 AM\']My local ABC affiliate(WPVI-TV) failed to show the rest of the 10/9/09 episode of Wheel because of a strange glitch that caused it to revert back to the beginning of the "tape" several times. This lasted for the rest of the half-hour after showing the first segment.[/quote]Remember when stations would put up a "Please Stand By" slide in event of technical difficulties, while they fix the problem? Today, it seems that stations would just let the problem go and let it air as is.
[/quote]A couple times within the last couple years, Wheel went to break, and on the other side was Double Jeopardy.
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For Detroit, pretty much the same, usually only special events pre-empt the big two, our most recent one was Jeopardy being pre-empted for ... oh oh... ANOTHER game show :)
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WHP in Harrisburg doesn't seem to pre-empt WoF and J! too often. My only complaint is that they're not in HD yet.
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I would argue that KABC (L.A.) and KGO (San Francisco) still hold the record, from the days of "Monday Night Football" on ABC -- they would slide the episodes back a day to account for the Monday pre-emption, but often the Saturday broadcast (i.e., the Friday show) would be pre-empted by college football or something else.
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[quote name=\'polo23\' post=\'228779\' date=\'Oct 18 2009, 03:57 AM\']I'd say the most pre-emptions now would be WNEM in Saginaw, MI. I wish CBS Television Distribution would have those programs pulled from stations that pre-empt the first-run episodes and give them to ones that would air them regularly.[/quote]
Amen. I've seen them pre-empt at least one for a Time-Life infomercial, a homebrew special on a hospital, Better Mid-Michigan recaps, and now that lottery game show. More than twice, they've interrupted the show for five to ten minutes just to say "There were reports of a tornado, but it's gone now, don't worry, nothing's on the radar…". Darrin Bradley just can't say anything in fewer than 1000 words.
Compare this to WBKB of Alpena, which manages to show the WRONG FREAKING EPISODE half the time. I've seen them manage to show something that wasn't supposed to air until a whole week later, the same episode three days in a row, etc.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'228832\' date=\'Oct 19 2009, 11:29 AM\']WNEM is such a strong station in this market that people will watch it during infomercials.[/quote]
I thought WJRT was wit their popular ABC lineup of the docs and nurses Grey's Anatomy and those hot broads on Desperate Housewives.
I do hope JRT brings WOF and J! back and get back into airing them nightly next year. I do remember when WJRT had those when I was visiting an aunt in Michigan in the 1980's, and before that before I left Mid-Michigan in 1983, The Joker's Wild, Tic Tac Dough, Bullseye, Play The Percentages, Match Game (syndie daily,not MGPM) and in the 1970's a local version of Bowling For Dollars .
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[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'228863\' date=\'Oct 19 2009, 11:11 PM\']More than twice, they've interrupted the show for five to ten minutes just to say "There were reports of a tornado, but it's gone now, don't worry, nothing's on the radar…"[/quote]Doesn't that go along the lines of reporting local news and providing information to the viewing audience?
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[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'228863\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 12:11 AM\']Compare this to WBKB of Alpena... I've seen them manage to show something that wasn't supposed to air until a whole week later...[/quote]
Would have been interesting if such an incident happened at the end of en Jennings' reign on Jeopardy.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'228875\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 04:31 AM\'][quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'228863\' date=\'Oct 19 2009, 11:11 PM\']More than twice, they've interrupted the show for five to ten minutes just to say "There were reports of a tornado, but it's gone now, don't worry, nothing's on the radar…"[/quote]Doesn't that go along the lines of reporting local news and providing information to the viewing audience?
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Yes, but how hard is it to say something to the effect of "There was a tornado, it's gone now, see, there's nothing on the radar. Now back to Wheel." in one minute instead of five or six?
[quote name=\'rugrats1\' post=\'228876\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 08:00 AM\']Would have been interesting if such an incident happened at the end of Ken Jennings' reign on Jeopardy.[/quote]
Didn't matter; ABC news (on the radio) spoiled that for me anyway.
One more thing WNEM has pre-empted Wheel for: A 30 minute special on THEIR FREAKING WEATHER SYSTEMS.
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[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'228879\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 11:18 AM\']One more thing WNEM has pre-empted Wheel for: A 30 minute special on THEIR FREAKING WEATHER SYSTEMS.[/quote]
You won't be happy this Thursday. They will be airing a 30 minute special on Winter Weather, and all the stuff that their radar can do to detect a Winter Storm. That will air at 7:00pm, preempting Jeopardy!
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[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'228896\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 05:21 PM\'][quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'228879\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 11:18 AM\']One more thing WNEM has pre-empted Wheel for: A 30 minute special on THEIR FREAKING WEATHER SYSTEMS.[/quote]
You won't be happy this Thursday. They will be airing a 30 minute special on Winter Weather, and all the stuff that their radar can do to detect a Winter Storm. That will air at 7:00pm, preempting Jeopardy!
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WHY the ferjerkers* do we need this? They tell us the same things every season in these specials. I bet 99% of the viewing audience doesn't give a rat's donkey about what Doppler radar means, or that WNEM has a bigger Doppler than anyone else in the area. And we damn sure don't need 30 minutes of this. Do a two minute blurb on the news or something, or offer it as a web exclusive video.
Any idiot can tell you what happens every single winter in Michigan. It gets freaking cold. And I'm sure the 1% that does care about how you forecast the weather** can just Google it or something.
*New minced oath, in case you want to use it.
**It involves a lot of lying, and maybe a round or two of Numberwang.
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[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'228897\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 06:34 PM\']WHY the ferjerkers* do we need this? They tell us the same things every season in these specials. I bet 99% of the viewing audience doesn't give a rat's donkey about what Doppler radar means, or that WNEM has a bigger Doppler than anyone else in the area. And we damn sure don't need 30 minutes of this. Do a two minute blurb on the news or something, or offer it as a web exclusive video.[/quote]
You know, I'd like to think human safety is a tad bit more important than the Prize Puzzle. Yes, it might be a drag, but the world won't come to an end because of it.
/I get these calls anytime we have to interrupt Wheel and/or Jeopardy!
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In Saginaw, it's probably is due to the management and the primary weather staff being mostly from out-of-town and not realizing that the people who have lived here all their lives already know how to prepare, drive, etc. in winter weather. It's sorta like a new news director noticing that it is windy in Chicago or smoggy in LA and doing a special on that.
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They do a three-minute bit during the 11pm news here - mainly because Ollie Williams could do the line in all of two seconds. A whole 30 minute special, especially for Michigan, is a bit much this early.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'228899\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 06:53 PM\']In Saginaw, it's probably is due to the management and the primary weather staff being mostly from out-of-town and not realizing that the people who have lived here all their lives already know how to prepare, drive, etc. in winter weather. It's sorta like a new news director noticing that it is windy in Chicago or smoggy in LA and doing a special on that.[/quote]
Agreed. I'm somewhat further north, I don't even DRIVE and I know how I'm supposed to drive in cold weather.
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'228900\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 07:06 PM\']A whole 30 minute special, especially for Michigan, is a bit much this early.[/quote]
Agreed.
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KDVR/Fox 31 in Denver has greatest idea: If they have some "serving the community" 30-minute special, they pare down their 60-minute "Fox 31 News @ 9" news show down to the first 30 minutes, then run the "special" in the second half of hour.
Although Fox 31 doesn't have WOF or J!, it's a great concept to use, plus it's better pre-emption for a news block than any other spot in the day. Now if they shortened the news for a 30-minute prostate infomercial.... :P
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'228898\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 05:39 PM\'][quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'228897\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 06:34 PM\']WHY the ferjerkers* do we need this? They tell us the same things every season in these specials. I bet 99% of the viewing audience doesn't give a rat's donkey about what Doppler radar means, or that WNEM has a bigger Doppler than anyone else in the area. And we damn sure don't need 30 minutes of this. Do a two minute blurb on the news or something, or offer it as a web exclusive video.[/quote]
You know, I'd like to think human safety is a tad bit more important than the Prize Puzzle. Yes, it might be a drag, but the world won't come to an end because of it. [/quote]
That's not human safety, that's e-peen.
/TV-peen?
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'228938\' date=\'Oct 21 2009, 12:24 PM\']That's not human safety, that's e-peen.
/TV-peen?[/quote]
Indeed it is. I just couldn't find the words to say it.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'228899\' date=\'Oct 20 2009, 05:53 PM\']In Saginaw, it's probably is due to the management and the primary weather staff being mostly from out-of-town and not realizing that the people who have lived here all their lives already know how to prepare, drive, etc. in winter weather. It's sorta like a new news director noticing that it is windy in Chicago or smoggy in LA and doing a special on that.[/quote]
Meredith (WNEM's owner) goes all out in KC with KCTV and severe weather. If you wanna see what I mean, go to www.firekatie.com and see how irate their viewers get. Luckily, Wheel & J! are on KSHB/NBC and Wheel goes at 6:30 and J! goes at I think 4:30. Meredith *had* Wheel & J! until a couple years ago when KSHB grabbed 'em (and in HD as well!)
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[quote name=\'trainman\' post=\'228858\' date=\'Oct 19 2009, 10:54 PM\']I would argue that KABC (L.A.) and KGO (San Francisco) still hold the record, from the days of "Monday Night Football" on ABC -- they would slide the episodes back a day to account for the Monday pre-emption, but often the Saturday broadcast (i.e., the Friday show) would be pre-empted by college football or something else.[/quote]
They preempted Wheel on Saturday during the 2005-06 college football season because of late college games starting at 4 pm PT. J! aired immediately after the game.
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Well, I've definitely got least here with WVEC. 99% of the time, it's only preempted on weekends, due to racing or football. There have been some weekday ones, like recently with some Project Green nonsense, but those are very rare.
I think the station is very well aware of the popularity of both shows, and only preempts new shows when it has to.