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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: alfonzos on September 25, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
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The article from Reuters (http://\"http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE58O0B420090925?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=11604&sp=true\")
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To loosely paraphrase Casablanca, I'm shocked -- SHOCKED, I tell you -- to find out that a major entertainment producer played hardball behind the scenes.
Honestly, isn't this old news to pretty much anybody who would care?
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Dick Clark>>>>>Bob Barker.
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This is news? A guy tries to make a buck and he's called one step beneath "consummately malevolent."
What a waste, and Mr. Swords is a Grade-A loser for spending a chunk of his life on this project.
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They're making a doc from this? This was part of a paper I wrote in 10th grade. Not the whole paper, part of it.
By sheer coincidence, I had to sign a paper at my college's radio station acknowledging that payola and plugola are illegal and that hell will be paid if I partake.
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While it would have been good to get fresh commentary from him, Swords did not want Clark's ailment to make him appear sympathetic.
Classy.
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By sheer coincidence, I had to sign a paper at my college's radio station acknowledging that payola and plugola are illegal and that hell will be paid if I partake.
You would have to do the same thing if you went to work on a game show -- and it wouldn't be by sheer coincidence ;-) In addition you would have to sign a similar statement regarding game rigging. See sections 507 and 508:
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/broadcast/sponsid.html (http://\"http://www.fcc.gov/eb/broadcast/sponsid.html\")
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/broadcast/contests.html (http://\"http://www.fcc.gov/eb/broadcast/contests.html\")
I have to sign a 507 statement once per year here at our big-time, big-city TV station.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'226872\' date=\'Sep 25 2009, 05:38 PM\']To loosely paraphrase Casablanca, I'm shocked -- SHOCKED, I tell you -- to find out that a major entertainment producer played hardball behind the scenes.
Honestly, isn't this old news to pretty much anybody who would care?[/quote]I cannot believe it either. This is completely ridiculous on the fact that they are degrading a person who has been around longer that we all have. What is the point?
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Four years, huh? I'd be willing to wager it's been sitting on the shelves for three years while Swords waited for Dick Clark to die, and then got tired of waiting. (Books are often held until the celebrity subject passes, and then released a few weeks later -- I worked on a few like that.)
A little background on Charlie Gracie's "Butterfly:" he performed the song, but it was written by two others, so his royalties wouldn't have been all that great. It did hit #1, but it's a pretty standard rockabilly tune. And Andy Williams hit #1 with it the same year. It probably doesn't help that Cameo-Parkway Records pretty much stopped selling much of its back catalog for 35 years or so (after Allen Klein bought the company in the late 1960s). Dick Clark was a huge boon to Cameo-Parkway artists; since Bandstand was in Philadelphia and so were they, bookings were natural. When Bandstand left for Los Angeles, Cameo-Parkway started rolling slowly downhill.
I do know that Dick was occasionally a pain in the tuchus to those who worked with him on other projects (we had an American Bandstand book project in the late '80s that we let go), but that's not uncommon to celebrities for whom some projects are important emotionally, not necessarily financially (see Nesmith, Michael). But, as noted before, he's a businessman, and never had any claims against him, even though some big names went down in the payola scandals (see Freed, Alan).
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'226896\' date=\'Sep 25 2009, 11:49 PM\']
By sheer coincidence, I had to sign a paper at my college's radio station acknowledging that payola and plugola are illegal and that hell will be paid if I partake.
You would have to do the same thing if you went to work on a game show -- and it wouldn't be by sheer coincidence ;-)[/quote]
Forgot the key word of "today," but I'm hoping you all inferred that.
Another thing is that I believe Mr. Clark has donated some of his wealth to Syracuse University if not elsewhere. While Mr. Swords would probably considering money laundering, there are much more damning things to do with your disposable income than support education.
/One of the two big things I remember learning from an SU orientation was that Clark was an alum
//The other was the 110" average snowfall
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ISTR reading somewhere that everyone at ABC radio (yes, even Dirk Fredericks) had to sign a non-payola agreement except Mr. Clark, who had his own special agreement with ABC giving him more latitude than everyone else.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'226910\' date=\'Sep 26 2009, 07:20 AM\'].... But, as noted before, he's a businessman, and never had any claims against him, even though some big names went down in the payola scandals (see Freed, Alan).[/quote]
Mr. Clark testified before Congress and agreed to divest himself of his financial interests in 33 different ventures (artist management to pressing plants). He complied, and no charges were brought. Congress took no action against Alan Freed. He was indicted on a New York state commercial bribery statute, and paid a small fine. Freed's career hit the skids after he failed to sign a legal statement requested by ABC affirming that he had no conflicting interests.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Dick DOES NOT deserve to have this blot in his career thrown back in his face! I, for one, intend to boycott this film if it ever runs where I live. And if you were in my place, you'd do the same. Yes, he made some mistakes; what celebs didn't? Even the Winkster had his share of setbacks.....
Cordially,
Tammy
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[quote name=\'Winkfan\' post=\'226981\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 02:55 PM\']I, for one, intend to boycott this film if it ever runs where I live.[/quote]No you don't. You weren't going to see it anyway, if it was an "anti-Dick" film, so you can't boycott something you weren't going to do in the first place.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'226982\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 03:04 PM\']so you can't boycott something you weren't going to do in the first place.[/quote]
You can if you show up out front of the theater with signs encouraging others to do the same. (Not that that was gonna happen either, but still.)
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[quote name=\'Winkfan\' post=\'226981\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 02:55 PM\']Dick DOES NOT deserve to have this blot in his career thrown back in his face! I, for one, intend to boycott this film if it ever runs where I live. And if you were in my place, you'd do the same. Yes, he made some mistakes; what celebs didn't?[/quote]
They were by no means "mistakes". They were shrewd, calculated moves by a cunning businessman. He knew exactly what he was doing every step of the way. I'll leave it to others to judge the ethicality of his business practices at the time.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'226982\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 06:04 PM\']No you don't. You weren't going to see it anyway, if it was an "anti-Dick" film, so you can't boycott something you weren't going to do in the first place.[/quote]
It only took you nine minutes to attempt a decapitation.
I'm semi-impressed.
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It only took you nine minutes to attempt a decapitation.
I'm semi-impressed.
I'm almost impressed at your ability to make no sense at all.
[quote name=\'Darion Blackwood Daniel\' post=\'226898\' date=\'Sep 25 2009, 09:10 PM\']I cannot believe it either. This is completely ridiculous on the fact that they are degrading a person who has been around longer that we all have. What is the point?[/quote]That Dick Clark is an interesting person whose life is worth looking at? Or don't your Rainbow Books have a section on that?
[quote name=\'Winkfan\' post=\'226981\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 02:55 PM\']Yes, he made some mistakes; what celebs didn't? Even the Winkster had his share of setbacks.....[/quote]I don't think anyone has lived mistake-free. That isn't the point. I know that if my life were to be profiled, there are some things that I'd rather were left out.
/Not the time that I lowered my trousers in front of President Johnson to show him my bullet scar, though. That was awesome.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'226997\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 10:07 PM\']/Not the time that I lowered my trousers in front of President Johnson to show him my bullet scar, though. That was awesome.[/quote]
Stupid is as stupid does.
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That Dick Clark is an interesting person who's life
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
I'm making the Felix Ungar "sinus" noise.
Don't do that.
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I'm making the Felix Ungar "sinus" noise.
The what now?
Don't do that.
Really?
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Don't do that.
Really?
Yeah, don't.
/You don't know the Felix Ungar sinus noise?
//One of my neighbors is the guy who introduced his pal Jack Klugman to Brett Somers.
///Clementson seldom misses and opportunity to drop a name.
////Clue: Read the thing that made me make the Felix Ungar sinus noise.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'227002\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 08:48 PM\']/You don't know the Felix Ungar sinus noise?[/quote] I sure don't. I know the name, but not the sinus noise.
////Clue: Read the thing that made me make the Felix Ungar sinus noise.
I thought the moderators would be more interested in good content than perfect grammar. Especially something that can be easily overlooked.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'227003\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 11:54 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'227002\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 08:48 PM\']/You don't know the Felix Ungar sinus noise?[/quote] I sure don't. I know the name, but not the sinus noise.[/quote]
In regards to the sinus noise, this clip (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RwFsIR604A\") should have it (but I can't be sure: I'm in class with the sound off).
In regards to grammar, some people view contraction confusion akin to genocide. Myself, I don't care, but no one asked me.
In regards to game shows… um, I think Golden-Road members attacked Drew for using a split infinitive, but I can't verify.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'226997\' date=\'Sep 27 2009, 11:07 PM\']I'm almost impressed at your ability to make no sense at all.[/quote]
Really? I have to explain my remark to you?
You metaphorically tried to take Winkfan's head off (as many do around here), and you did it in only nine minutes from the time of her posting.
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[quote name=\'Thunder\' post=\'227086\' date=\'Sep 28 2009, 05:28 PM\']Really? I have to explain my remark to you?
You metaphorically tried to take Winkfan's head off (as many do around here), and you did it in only nine minutes from the time of her posting.[/quote]I did no such thing. I said that she wasn't going to do what she claimed. She was over-the-top. I was not. You were.