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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: cmjb13 on September 10, 2009, 03:23:56 PM
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http://www.priceisright.com/ (http://\"http://www.priceisright.com/\")
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LOVE it!!!
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I finally get to see what the new Contestants' Row displays look like. They're monitors now, right? Because I swear it looks like the same exact thing used for the last 33 years!
And I now love the turntable backdrop, esp. seeing it lit. It still looks somewhat retro, but modernized enough for the 2000s...
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Oh goody, the corporate-sanitized version of g-r.net. I wonder how heavily they're going to wield their ability to control content posted by users.
This board is run by Matt Ottinger and Chris Clementson. You know who we are. Same with g-r.net. The closest thing I see to a person's name representing priceisright.com is "Your TPIR Website Editor", and there is Fremantle branding at the bottom of the page.
Call me cynical, but I don't see a thread titled "Bart: Fired or Retired?" staying open very long.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'225577\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 03:53 PM\']And I now love the turntable backdrop, esp. seeing it lit. It still looks somewhat retro, but modernized enough for the 2000s...[/quote]
Seconded. It really does look fantastic, and actually makes the home base look more "open" than before.
BTW, did we already get an official axe on 3 Strikes? Cause if not, its absence in the Pricing Game section on that site says enough.
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[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'225583\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 05:33 PM\']BTW, did we already get an official axe on 3 Strikes? Cause if not, its absence in the Pricing Game section on that site says enough.[/quote]
It is neither absent from the show or the site.
Others, however... ;)
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225581\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 02:22 PM\']Call me cynical, but I don't see a thread titled "Bart: Fired or Retired?" staying open very long.[/quote]
But isn't that the idea Chris? A website where new TPIR fans (and oldies) can just like the show, and like Drew, and be excited about it and post about it?
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Since this thread is TPIR related, would anyone like to bet on when the inevitable bickerfest will break out?
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[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225588\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 04:49 PM\']But isn't that the idea Chris? A website where new TPIR fans (and oldies) can like the show, and like Drew, and be excited about it and post about it?[/quote]
Yeah, heaven forbid someone says something flattering about Drew or the changes the show made.
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Loves it. It's all beautiful, I cannot wait to see it in HD. Plus, Craig Ferguson on the season premiere is right up my alley.
Great job, 33!
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'225593\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 06:01 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225588\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 04:49 PM\']But isn't that the idea Chris? A website where new TPIR fans (and oldies) can like the show, and like Drew, and be excited about it and post about it?[/quote]
Yeah, heaven forbid someone says something flattering about Drew or the changes the show made.
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Well in all fairness, I don't think pentellit was necessarily taking a stance toward either side, or making it seem like praising Drew is taboo...
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[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225588\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 02:49 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225581\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 02:22 PM\']Call me cynical, but I don't see a thread titled "Bart: Fired or Retired?" staying open very long.[/quote]
But isn't that the idea Chris? A website where new TPIR fans (and oldies) can just like the show, and like Drew, and be excited about it and post about it?[/quote]
Nothing wrong with a Drew flatterfest, but I do have a problem with censorship. If flattering posts are the only kind of post they allow, they're going to have very little message traffic and people will still flock to g-r.net or here. On our board we do very little censoring based on opinions people express. It does get contentious here, but we allow our members to dish the dirt, short of committing libel. If someone posted "Bart: Fired or Retired?" on the Fremantle board and it's immediately taken down, you can kiss the original poster of that thread goodbye as well as those who wanted to discuss the subject.
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I watched the preview for the new season. I saw Mike Richards face, and my stomach turned...
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I think the thing that scares me the most about the new priceisright.com website is that they have a camo TPiR hat for sale in the store!
I can't see the message board being used that much, not for censorship issues (which there obviously would be in a thread such as 'Bart: Fired or Retired' or 'DREW CAREY SUXORZ'), but simply because it's a piss poor design. Seriously - can you follow the threads, because I certainly can't!
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[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'225598\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 03:15 PM\']I watched the preview for the new season. I saw Mike Richards face, and my stomach turned...[/quote]
That could be a replacement soap opera on CBS.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'225594\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 06:01 PM\']Loves it. It's all beautiful, I cannot wait to see it in HD. Plus, Craig Ferguson on the season premiere is right up my alley.[/quote]
Great day for America, indeed?
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225581\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 05:22 PM\']Oh goody, the corporate-sanitized version of g-r.net. I wonder how heavily they're going to wield their ability to control content posted by users.[/quote]
Sentiments are echoed slightly, but god forbid PIR takes advantage of technology and a different medium to put up a place for its fans to convene and converse. Whatever could be the utility in doing such a thing?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225597\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 03:14 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225588\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 02:49 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225581\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 02:22 PM\']Call me cynical, but I don't see a thread titled "Bart: Fired or Retired?" staying open very long.[/quote]
But isn't that the idea Chris? A website where new TPIR fans (and oldies) can just like the show, and like Drew, and be excited about it and post about it?[/quote]
Nothing wrong with a Drew flatterfest, but I do have a problem with censorship. If flattering posts are the only kind of post they allow, they're going to have very little message traffic and people will still flock to g-r.net or here. On our board we do very little censoring based on opinions people express. It does get contentious here, but we allow our members to dish the dirt (short of committing libel). If someone posted "Bart: Fired or Retired?" on the Fremantle board and it's immediately taken down, you can kiss the original poster of that thread goodbye as well as those who wanted to discuss the subject.[/quote]
Yes, and someone wanting to debate Bart's firing would find their way here. Here on The Forum the majority of members are serious gamers, and the discussions are savvy and erudite. I'm thinking that this new website is simply, and I mean "simply" in the literal and figurative sense of the word, for fans who just want to like and chat about TPIR. That's all.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225597\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 05:14 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225588\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 02:49 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225581\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 02:22 PM\']Call me cynical, but I don't see a thread titled "Bart: Fired or Retired?" staying open very long.[/quote]
But isn't that the idea Chris? A website where new TPIR fans (and oldies) can just like the show, and like Drew, and be excited about it and post about it?[/quote]
Nothing wrong with a Drew flatterfest, but I do have a problem with censorship. If flattering posts are the only kind of post they allow, they're going to have very little message traffic and people will still flock to g-r.net or here. On our board we do very little censoring based on opinions people express. It does get contentious here, but we allow our members to dish the dirt, short of committing libel. If someone posted "Bart: Fired or Retired?" on the Fremantle board and it's immediately taken down, you can kiss the original poster of that thread goodbye as well as those who wanted to discuss the subject.
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Wait. Are you saying that the rightsholders of a product would take measures to ensure that their product is shown in a positive light on its own website? What do they think this is, the Internet?
If people want to grouse about TPIR, they can still come here or g-r. If they want the official product with all the shiny bells and whistles, they can go to tpir.com. I fail to see the problem here, unless Fremantle suddenly serves a "cease to exist" order on Matt and Chris.
/Tiller'd
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[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'225610\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 06:34 PM\']I fail to see the problem here, unless Fremantle suddenly serves a "cease to exist" order on Matt and Chris.[/quote]Impossible.
Chris and Matt don't use any trademarks of Price, nor any other show on the site. Price would have no case to limit discussion here.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'225611\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 07:36 PM\']Impossible.[/quote]...that's the joke. (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18574&hl=cease+to+exist\")
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A good majority of the Pricing Game clips on that site have their audio out of sync with the video.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225581\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 05:22 PM\']Call me cynical, but I don't see a thread titled "Bart: Fired or Retired?" staying open very long.[/quote]I don't see one being created at all. I think they're trying to get the more casual fan. The people who aren't cognizant of nor interested in the backstage goings-on.
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[quote name=\'CarShark\' post=\'225622\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 07:00 PM\']I think they're trying to get the more casual fan. The people who aren't cognizant of nor interested in the backstage goings-on.[/quote]
And they'll get them. But this is still the Internet; they will also get the Zach Horans and the folks who were even too fanb0i for G-R who now see another opportunity to show the world how "inside" they are.
I could *totally* see a thread like that starting.
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Who's Zach Horans, and why do you spell it f-a-n-b-0-i ?
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[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225625\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 10:43 PM\']Who's Zach Horans, and why do you spell it f-a-n-b-0-i ?[/quote]
Zach was a former poster dating back to the ATGS era (our former newsgroup home in the late-90s/early-2000s). He had a habit of reciting literally every game show statistic known to man. However, he had a tendency to be quite obnoxious as to how he presented his facts, and often presented more info than was requested, and even repeating facts long after other posters had mentioned them. Long story short, as long as he was able to say he posted the info, he was content, without regard to other posters.
He was also a borderline troll, pulling obnoxious stunts on general principle, sometimes to test the waters (and the mods' patience). His ego pretty much got him banned from this forum, when he made insensitive jokes about June Allyson following her death in 2006. Because he was such a "great source of info", he figured he was invincible. He was wrong.
I'm only beginning to scratch the surface...someone else take it from here. :-P
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ADDENDUM: Pentellit, look up the word "ZHIFOS"...
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Sigh. I bet he's bouncing in his little chair while he reads this, even as we speak.
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[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225625\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 10:43 PM\']Who's Zach Horans, and why do you spell it f-a-n-b-0-i ?[/quote]
Zach is a former member here who actually goes all the way back to the original Usenet newsgroup where many of us first met. His name is usually invoked as the extreme example of someone who wants to spout obscure facts and figures to show how smart he is, but just ends up being super annoying. We threw him out when it became obvious that he was more interested in being annoying than being informative.
I'm not sure why we adopted the weird spelling of 'fanboy', but we're using the term in its standard definition. Wikipedia says "highly devoted and biased in opinion towards a single subject", and that's pretty much it.
EDIT: Not surprisingly, others beat me to it. And yes, Chris is right, he's probably getting a huge kick out of the fact that we're talking about him, even negatively. Sad, really.
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[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'225610\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 07:34 PM\']Wait. Are you saying that the rightsholders of a product would take measures to ensure that their product is shown in a positive light on its own website? What do they think this is, the Internet?[/quote]
I think the fact that the first post which asked "when the new Season starts" was made 9 days before the site officially opened to the public is a pretty good indication of how they intend to use the site :)
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I love the fact that the first response to Mike Richards little intro there directs him to G-R.Net for all the inside pictures and information. I hope Mike gets time to tour the site.
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[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'225639\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 11:00 PM\']I think the fact that the first post which asked "when the new Season starts" was made 9 days before the site officially opened to the public is a pretty good indication of how they intend to use the site :)[/quote]
As a promotional tool? Heaven forbid they do that.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'225642\' date=\'Sep 11 2009, 12:33 AM\']As a promotional tool? Heaven forbid they do that.[/quote]
Come on.
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Does anyone else get this instead of a real site?
Server Error in '/' Application.
Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to obtaining a connection from the pool. This may have occurred because all pooled connections were in use and max pool size was reached.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.
Exception Details: System.InvalidOperationException: Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to obtaining a connection from the pool. This may have occurred because all pooled connections were in use and max pool size was reached.
Source Error:
An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:
[InvalidOperationException: Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to obtaining a connection from the pool. This may have occurred because all pooled connections were in use and max pool size was reached.]
System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionFactory.GetConnection(DbConnection owningConnection) +4863722
System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionClosed.OpenConnection(DbConnection outerConnection, DbConnectionFactory connectionFactory) +117
System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection.Open() +122
Cartella.Classes.DataController.OpenConnection() in G:\Cartella_New\Libs\CartellaLibs\Common\Classes\DataAccess\DataController.cs:227
[Exception: Can not open connection with connection string "Data Source=IGXHOSTDB\SQL2005;Initial Catalog=Cartella-Eval-Fremantle;Persist Security Info=True;User ID=Cartella-Fremantle-Reader;Password=!ng3n1ux]
Cartella.Support.TypeFinder.Create(Object[] parameters, Type typeToCreateInstance) in G:\Cartella_New\Libs\CartellaLibs\CartellaBase\Support\SupportLibs.cs:1184
Cartella.Classes.DataAccessManager.getAvailableEngines() in G:\Cartella_New\Libs\CartellaLibs\Common\Classes\DataAccess\DataAccessManager.cs:55
Cartella.Classes.DataAccessManager..ctor(ISiteManager _siteManager) in G:\Cartella_New\Libs\CartellaLibs\Common\Classes\DataAccess\DataAccessManager.cs:19
Cartella.Classes.SiteManager..ctor() in G:\Cartella_New\Libs\CartellaLibs\CartellaData\SiteManager.cs:33
Cartella.Classes.CartellaGlobalManager.CreateInstance() in G:\Cartella_New\Libs\CartellaLibs\CartellaData\CartellaGlobalManager.cs:71
[Exception: Error occurred creating new SiteManager instance: Can not open connection with connection string "Data Source=IGXHOSTDB\SQL2005;Initial Catalog=Cartella-Eval-Fremantle;Persist Security Info=True;User ID=Cartella-Fremantle-Reader;Password=!ng3n1ux]
Cartella.Classes.CartellaGlobalManager.CreateInstance() in G:\Cartella_New\Libs\CartellaLibs\CartellaData\CartellaGlobalManager.cs:106
TPIRSite.Controllers.BaseController.Initialize(RequestContext requestContext) +75
System.Web.Mvc.ControllerBase.Execute(RequestContext requestContext) +20
System.Web.Mvc.ControllerBase.System.Web.Mvc.IController.Execute(RequestContext requestContext) +7
System.Web.Mvc.MvcHandler.ProcessRequest(HttpContextBase httpContext) +151
System.Web.Mvc.MvcHandler.ProcessRequest(HttpContext httpContext) +57
System.Web.Mvc.MvcHandler.System.Web.IHttpHandler.ProcessRequest(HttpContext httpContext) +7
System.Web.CallHandlerExecutionStep.System.Web.HttpApplication.IExecutionStep.Ex
ecute() +181
System.Web.HttpApplication.ExecuteStep(IExecutionStep step, Boolean& completedSynchronously) +75
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'225642\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 09:33 PM\']As a promotional tool? Heaven forbid they do that.[/quote]
For a change, I'm with John. Astroturf is astroturf.
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[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'225643\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 11:38 PM\']Come on.[/quote]
Come on? Come on yourself. To think there's some big conspiracy behind a post being made before the site went live is ridiculous. There's a number of reasonable explanations for that - the site obviously has problems, as evidenced by all of the ASP.NET errors, and that could've easily been a test message of sorts. For all we know, they sent a mass email out at the office saying "Go and test this site before we throw it up on the Internetz!"
Or it could've been to start a discussion in the forum - I've been online for a long time, through dialup BBSes to the Internet as we know it today, and I can damn well tell you that every discussion board I've went on where there was a whopping ZERO posts stayed at a whopping zero posts for the duration of the forum's existence.
The administrators, based on their own actions, don't want to hide when they're the ones to post something - I've seen at least one thread started by the webmaster, and it plainly identified who posted it - the webmaster, not "Bob from Colorado" a/k/a Drew Carey's secretary in California (obviously I can't link to it now because they can't get their act together).
Is there an agenda here? Probably - everybody has an agenda, whether they want to admit it or not - but you're pointing to the wrong thing to prove it. Wake me up when they start erasing the "DROOFUS RUINED MY SHOW BY CHANGING THE COLOR OF THE THIRD CR DISPLAY" messages.
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[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' post=\'225644\' date=\'Sep 11 2009, 12:45 AM\']Does anyone else get this instead of a real site?
Server Error in '/' Application.
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Yes.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'225648\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 09:54 PM\']Or it could've been to start a discussion in the forum - I've been online for a long time, through dialup BBSes to the Internet as we know it today, and I can damn well tell you that every discussion board I've went on where there was a whopping ZERO posts stayed at a whopping zero posts for the duration of the forum's existence.[/quote]
But there are far better ways to do it than to ask a question they already know the answer to.
As for your "test post" theory, that's possible, I suppose, but then they should have cleaned up their mess before they went live, precisely to prevent something like this from happening.
Seems to me they tried to pull a fast one, and they got caught.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225650\' date=\'Sep 11 2009, 12:58 AM\']they should have cleaned up their mess before they went live[/quote]Clearly that's not a high priority for ANY part of the site. ;)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'225630\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 10:05 PM\']EDIT: Not surprisingly, others beat me to it. And yes, Chris is right, he's probably getting a huge kick out of the fact that we're talking about him, even negatively. Sad, really.[/quote]
I thought Horan was given a total ban from this forum? As in, not only can he not post, he can't even read the forum.
I wouldn't be shocked if he had some non posting lurker "agents" relaying messages to him though.
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From a message board we both frequent, I know he has some way of knowing about/seeing these posts.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'225653\' date=\'Sep 11 2009, 01:13 AM\']From a message board we both frequent, I know he has some way of knowing about/seeing these posts.[/quote]
Unregistered guests can read the Big Board and a couple of other subforums. We can't be in the business of completely blocking IPs, which can be wildly unreliable and not particularly effective.
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(sarcasm) The site looks AWESOME!!!! LOVE the yellow blocks of highlighted black text! (/sarcasm)
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[quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'225656\' date=\'Sep 11 2009, 01:57 AM\'](sarcasm) The site looks AWESOME!!!! LOVE the yellow blocks of highlighted black text! (/sarcasm)[/quote]
That must be the new set they're using! <g>
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Did anybody happen to notice the first blog post was made back in July?
(GASP! CONSPIRACY!)
Does anybody even know when this website really launched? Is it possible that none of us noticed until yesterday? I mean, priceisright.com had pretty much died a quick death, and there was really no reason for anybody to be checking it everyday.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'225693\' date=\'Sep 11 2009, 07:15 PM\']Does anybody even know when this website really launched? Is it possible that none of us noticed until yesterday? I mean, priceisright.com had pretty much died a quick death, and there was really no reason for anybody to be checking it everyday.[/quote]
The internet fan community is more connected and more obsessive than you think. I would be extremely surprised if the site was up for much longer than a day before it got noticed, and once it got noticed, word would spread very quickly.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'225630\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 11:05 PM\']I'm not sure why we adopted the weird spelling of 'fanboy', but we're using the term in its standard definition. Wikipedia says "highly devoted and biased in opinion towards a single subject", and that's pretty much it.[/quote]
l0bster, the cretin who singlehandedly destroyed Usenet, spelled it with a zero. Carried over nicely.
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[quote name=\'Robair\' post=\'225728\' date=\'Sep 12 2009, 10:21 AM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'225630\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 11:05 PM\']I'm not sure why we adopted the weird spelling of 'fanboy', but we're using the term in its standard definition. Wikipedia says "highly devoted and biased in opinion towards a single subject", and that's pretty much it.[/quote]
l0bster, the cretin who singlehandedly destroyed Usenet, spelled it with a zero. Carried over nicely.
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He also mimicked others' names by using zeroes, a la "Matt 0ttinger", "Chris Lem0n", and "Zach H0ran".
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[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'225648\' date=\'Sep 11 2009, 12:54 AM\']For all we know, they sent a mass email out at the office saying "Go and test this site before we throw it up on the Internetz!"[/quote]
A slight amendment to your comment, Mr. Brown. I've seen the site. They didn't throw it up on the Internet, it threw itself up all over the Internet. "Cleanup on Aisle Common Sense"!
/Not planning on making any return visits to said site.
//Fremantle still blows -- only now they've branched out into the Internet.