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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: tvrandywest on October 31, 2003, 02:08:30 PM
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I got this info from a girlfriend who was up for the 6AM hour of LA's time-shifted play of the Stern show. In typical Stern style he reportedly slammed Rod, Bob and others. I'd be disappointed if he didn't; it's his radio personna. Anybody able to add any info?
If you haven't heard, they did a bit on Stern this a.m.
about Bob Barker's 18-second pre-show eulogy to Rod...
apparently Howard thought 18 secs. was not enough
"don't ever hire Bob Barker to do your eulogy!"
He then proceeded to sing a warped tribute to Rod
to the tune of CANDLE IN THE WIND starting with:
"Good-bye, Rod Roddy
you were an announcer on the show...."
Thanks if you can add any info.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 02:08 PM\']
If you haven't heard, they did a bit on Stern this a.m.
about Bob Barker's 18-second pre-show eulogy to Rod...
apparently Howard thought 18 secs. was not enough
"don't ever hire Bob Barker to do your eulogy!"
He then proceeded to sing a warped tribute to Rod
to the tune of CANDLE IN THE WIND starting with:
"Good-bye, Rod Roddy
you were an announcer on the show...."
Thanks if you can add any info.
Randy
tvrandywest.com [/quote]
Hey Randy,
Glad to see your return and sorry about the loss of your pal. As you know....we are all feeling it.
I really wish I was awake for Howard this morning. I ended up sleeping in. That's a funny line from Stern. "don't ever hire Bob Barker to do your eulogy!" LOL. Ya know... he DOES have a point. Not much of a tribute for a guy you worked with for 17 Years. But Hey..... that's just my opinion.
Anyway..... Howards entire show is posted daily in the Stern Binaries Newsgroup. I'll see if I can find it for you.
John
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I don't usually listen to the show and this day was no exception. But I found the show and the pertinent exchange happens about 25 minutes into the show and lasted about 5 minutes.
I typed up a transcript. Howard makes a point, but as usual he goes way overboard.
HOWARD: I tell you what. When I die, remind me not to have Bob Barker do my eulogy. We've been talking about the fact that Rod Roddy...
ROBIN: You mean we've been better to Rod Roddy than Bob Barker has?
H:Yeah, we've spent more time on Rod Roddy's death who is the guy who said COME ON DOWN! on TPiR. Bob Barker did a pretaped piece...
R: At the beginning of the show or something?
H: Yeah, it was like 18 seconds long, I clocked it. He should have like come out and spoken from the heart a little bit.
R: Maybe like play a montage of Rod Roddy's best moments?
H: Well, Something. man! I mean, Jesus Christ!, the guy's been on the show for like 20 friggin' years. Why not give him some kind of sendoff? If Baba Booey died, we'd have more to say about him than 18 seconds. Here, I'll play it for you.
<plays audio of Barker tribute...tribute ends "God bless Rod Roddy">
H (in announcer voice): A very special Price is Right...the Life and Times of Rod Roddy
R: Rod Roddy gave his life to that show!
H (announcer voice): Rod Roddy had no family beside the Price is Right family
(regular voice): Bob Barker could have sung a new version of "Candle in the Wind"
(singing) Would've like to have known you but you were just... just a what?
R: Yeah, what was he?
ARTIE:Yeah, Robin suggested a montage..that's nice. Like Roddy yelling out a name. Then another name..
H: Roddy did do some skits and stuff. He pointed to some cars and things.
(singing) Rod Roddy we hardly knew you. You came on the show and you were just a...
Hello, Rod Roddy, you were on the show for many years. You were an announcer and you said Come on Down. Rod Roddy, when I heard you say Come on Down, I knew that you'd be an announcer on the show for many many years
But now you're gone we'll miss you here, in fact, we just got a black guy to replace you So what? My dear old friend, Rod Roddy. When you died, you died with your assistant holding your hand...and one of the models standing next to you.
We would have like to have given you more than 18 seconds mention after 20 years, my old friend Roddy Rod. the way you grabbed the mike. You know no one cared. But what the hell? Fact we've almost forgtten your name, we have a show to do...
But now you're dead...you're so dead. You're deader than a doorknob. Roddy, we'll miss the way you said "Come on Down!"
You died of colon cancer and your breasts had cancer, too. What kind of way is that for a man to die? What cup size were you?
A:See that was way better than Bob Barker's?
H: You're God damn right it was. I mean, I could have cleaned it up a little. So Bob Barker gave him an 18 second write off.
R: Thanks, Bob!
H:Way to go, pal!
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"Howard Stern Singing "
But now you're gone we'll miss you here, in fact, we just got a black guy to replace you So what?
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Awww. Now that's just plain wrong. Not even one mention about Randy??? Hey Randy... you're going to need some sort of schtick for people to remember you better. Rod had colored jackets. Maybe you can do the show in your underwear or something. LOL
John
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I just wanted to add that if there is any interest, I can make the audio available.
Did anyone want it?
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 03:55 PM\'] "Howard Stern Singing "
But now you're gone we'll miss you here, in fact, we just got a black guy to replace you So what?
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Awww. Now that's just plain wrong. Not even one mention about Randy??? Hey Randy... you're going to need some sort of schtick for people to remember you better. Rod had colored jackets. Maybe you can do the show in your underwear or something. LOL [/quote]
Didn't Jay Stewart appear in all sorts of degrading outfits on LMAD? (I seem to recall GSN have shown episodes with him wearing a giant diaper and dressed as a young girl, but I could be wrong on this.)
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 01:33 PM\'] That's a funny line from Stern. "don't ever hire Bob Barker to do your eulogy!" LOL. Ya know... he DOES have a point. Not much of a tribute for a guy you worked with for 17 Years. But Hey..... that's just my opinion.
John[/quote]
Hmmmm. Perhaps the fact that I'm not that great a
Howard Stern fan plays into the fact why I DON'T
see ANY humor in the quote he made regarding Rod
and the "eulogy" that Barker gave. Howard can be cutting
at times, but I will agree with you John.. he DID have a point..
That eulogy was *awfully* "brief."
When I listened to the clip, I was shocked at its length! I thought,
"my Gosh!!," but then I figured "it was probably done in a very
pronto manner, and they didn't have time to do a LONGER one... But still..."
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Here is the Clip from Stern giving tribute to Rod.
http://www.johnchartier.com/howardrod.rm (http://\"http://www.johnchartier.com/howardrod.rm\")
John
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Let's play "One Away" (sort of....)
"Ladies, do I have at least one nice thing to say about Howard Stern?"
(complete and utter silence.....)
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[quote name=\'massman1\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 04:38 PM\'] Let's play "One Away" (sort of....)
"Ladies, do I have at least one nice thing to say about Howard Stern?"
(complete and utter silence.....) [/quote]
Yeah..... I have one thing to say. Howard gave Rod a 4 minute 30 second tribute and Bob Barker gave him 28 seconds.
John
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 04:06 PM\']Didn't Jay Stewart appear in all sorts of degrading outfits on LMAD? (I seem to recall GSN have shown episodes with him wearing a giant diaper and dressed as a young girl, but I could be wrong on this.)[/quote]
You could say that. I'd say more silly than degrading. After all, those outfits paid the rent and the car for 14 years.
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 03:20 PM\'] Here is the Clip from Stern giving tribute to Rod.
http://www.johnchartier.com/howardrod.rm (http://\"http://www.johnchartier.com/howardrod.rm\")
John [/quote]
Geeze! What am I missing here??? Is this stuff supposed to be
funny???? Sometimes I wonder if Howard Stern has a sensitive
bone in his body... I also wonder how long he's gonna continue
his on-air heartlessness and when it will be that he rubs the wrong
person the wrong way...
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[quote name=\'MyCapableAssistant\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 04:55 PM\']
Geeze! What am I missing here??? Is this stuff supposed to be
funny???? Sometimes I wonder if Howard Stern has a sensitive
bone in his body... I also wonder how long he's gonna continue
his on-air heartlessness and when it will be that he rubs the wrong
person the wrong way...
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It's a swipe at Bob Barker and the tribute, not Rod Roddy, from my perspective.
Trust me, if they didn't like Rod Roddy they could have been much harsher (and have been with other people).
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Hey, inturnaround... Thanks for the info, especially so quickly!
For those put-off, Howard is just being the Howard that made him the "king of all media". While I'm sure the initial novelty of his success has long since worn off, it must have been SO sweet after years of radio abuse at the hands of many of the same jerks I worked for. Howard's and my paths crossed at WRNW (after meeting while he toured the studio on a Wednesday or Thursday I was fired on Friday so he could start Monday!). I had my own dealings with many of the suburban New York / Connecticut radio dicks in his book and movie. It's Howard's act, and he's developed it to near perfection. Nothing but kudos from me.
And John... I want NO mention in his bits, ever. I'd SO much rather laugh at others!
Responding to another post in this thread, dear Jay Stewart LOVED the appearances on LMAD. For a true showman there is almost nothing that's "degrading"; it's classic vaudeville, music-hall broad comedy. Johnny and Jay were both wonderful supporting foils for the humor. It's an art in itself that endeared them deeply to their respective hosts.
I might have mentioned this years ago, but again briefly, after his dismissal from "Sale/Century" one of the true gentlemen in town, Don Pitts, was there for Jay. Yes, the same Don Pitts who has helped with Rod - you may have seen quotes from Don in some press. In the late 80s Don gave Jay an opportunity to use his experience and contacts as an agent... it's the job Fred Wostbrock filled after Jay's death.
I was repped by Jay for that period and can tell you how much he LOVED the insanity of those appearances on LMAD. Insane because they required him to be double or triple dressed at the top of the show (layered) to make the fast costume changes. LMAD was taped in real time, and a wardrobe woman would accessorize each costume while Jay was reading copy! It was WILD in the wings, and he loved those years.
While very depressed in his final days, even on the Friday evening before his weekend suicide Jay's eyes lit up and his excitement returned in recounting for me some more of the stories of the great days at "Deal" that he knew I loved to hear. He, Monty and Carol were like close family and the love of the people and experience was one of the great joys in Jay's life up until the end.
Sorry if it seems maudlin, but it's been in the air since Rod's passing. In a few days my mourning must end as Price returns to some busy taping - 8 shows in 8 days. A good friend (Bricon) was first to realize I have a tricky balance to achieve between giving Rod his "props" in a respectful brief eulogy and pumping the happy energy during the first warm-ups since Rod's death.
Thanks for being a giant ear to my stream of semi-conciousness ;-)
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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As Crazy as you may think this is.... I feel that Rod would of been absolutely fine with the tribute Howard gave to him. I realize people here are going to be particularly sensitive about the situation. However Rod appeared on Geoff Edwards Radio Show a couple of years back. Rod seemed to understand that Howard's schtick is to be outrageous. Rod basicly defended Howard during this interview. So considering that ....... I feel Rod would of been happy that Howard mentioned him and probably would of found his tribute funny.
I've posted a portion of this interview with Rod at the following link
http://www.johnchartier.com/rodgeoff.rm (http://\"http://www.johnchartier.com/rodgeoff.rm\")
John
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 05:11 PM\']As Crazy as you may think this is.... I feel that Rod would of been absolutely fine with the tribute Howard gave to him. I realize people here are going to be particularly sensitive about the situation. However Rod appeared on Geoff Edwards Radio Show a couple of years back. Rod seemed to understand that Howard's schtick is to be outrageous. Rod basicly defended Howard during this interview. So considering that ....... I feel Rod would of been happy that Howard mentioned him and probably would of found his tribute funny.[/quote]
Probably because it seems like as a talk show host Rod was doing what would be Stern's shtick without the sex jokes.
Also, considering that Gordon McLendon was an ardent conservative, it's surprising that he let Rod get away with being a liberal on his flagship station (although from airchecks I've heard on reelradio.com, he let his talent on his KNUS-FM station in Dallas get away with some anti-Establishment remarks that he probably didn't care for).
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 05:11 PM\'] Hey, inturnaround... Thanks for the info, especially so quickly!
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Hey, don't mention it. I'm unemployed right now so I've nothing better to do. Hehee.
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 04:11 PM\'] As Crazy as you may think this is.... I feel that Rod would of been absolutely fine with the tribute Howard gave to him. I realize people here are going to be particularly sensitive about the situation. However Rod appeared on Geoff Edwards Radio Show a couple of years back. Rod seemed to understand that Howard's schtick is to be outrageous. Rod basicly defended Howard during this interview. So considering that ....... I feel Rod would of been happy that Howard mentioned him and probably would of found his tribute funny.
I've posted a portion of this interview with Rod at the following link
http://www.johnchartier.com/rodgeoff.rm (http://\"http://www.johnchartier.com/rodgeoff.rm\")
John [/quote]
Like I said, I don't listen to Howard Stern. I'm not a fan of his
and I know he's outrageous, but if the majority think his tribute was
good, then it's fine with me too ;-)
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Sorry, people who get their kicks at the misfortune of others who have done nothing wrong don't do it for me. As far as I'm concerned, Stern is just typical of why radio is unlistenable any more. From what I've heard of Stern, he's no diferent than the type of people we left A.T.-G.S. to get away from.
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Sorry, people who get their kicks at the misfortune of others who have done nothing wrong don't do it for me. As far as I'm concerned, Stern is just typical of why radio is unlistenable any more. From what I've heard of Stern, he's no diferent than the type of people we left A.T.-G.S. to get away from.
OK, before I start, I don't find Howard Stern funny; there are people out there doing shock comedy better than him, IMO. That said...
LIGHTEN UP.
This is not a mockery of Rod's death; rather, a mockery of how it was handled. Howard establishes that from the beginning with his griping, and frankly, I thought the whole premise of the segment is pretty funny. The suggested alternative of a "very special Price is Right" is amusing simply because of the impossible notion of a powerful episode of TPIR. The tribute song was good for the most part (didn't like the cancer joke, not because I was offended---which I wasn't---but because it just felt tacked on for shock sake and that never works for me).
Besides, I dare anyone on this board to step up and say that, in a private moment, they've NEVER made a joke about a death. Humor is a defense mechanism, after all. It's how we cope with fear, very often; fear of anything, but especially death. If Howard was "just another guy" who did a low-key, not-professional version of this at a water cooler among friends, it would draw chuckles. But since he did it on a national broadcast with millions of listeners, a few people climb on a soap box and call him degenerate.
I know, I know, his motives are probably not related to coping with fear, and yeah, he was probably going for the shock value in the premise, but remember a few things.
1. Considering it's Howard Stern, this could have been a lot worse.
2. If you were offended, you're probably not his target audience, so it's not like he lost fans forever with this.
3. Am I alone in thinking that Howard appears to demonstrate tremendous respect for Rod a few times in this bit?
With all that said, nobody is more surprised about my defending Howard Stern than me.
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Trust me, if they didn't like Rod Roddy they could have been much harsher (and have been with other people).
Case in point (to keep it GS-related): the way he ripped Joshua Morrow after the latter commented on a MG '98 ep how much he hated Stern.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 08:51 PM\'] Besides, I dare anyone on this board to step up and say that, in a private moment, they've NEVER made a joke about a death. (cut) But since he did it on a national broadcast with millions of listeners, a few people climb on a soap box and call him degenerate.
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That's my point. Everyone has the right to say and feel how they think; putting it on the radio makes it worthy of comment if you dislike it, which is what I did.
2. If you were offended, you're probably not his target audience...
I consider that something to be proud of.
I still think he's disgusting.
Edit: And yes, I know I'm starting to sound like Prof.Steve.
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I have one thing to say. Howard gave Rod a 4 minute 30 second tribute and Bob Barker gave him 28 seconds.
Come on John, you're smarter than that.
How many pricing games did Howard play on his show? Howard has nothing but time to fill on his show whereas TPIR tried to shoehorn a tribute into an existing formatted episode, hardly a fair comparison.
As for Mr. Stern, among the many problems I have with him is the way he deals with women on his show. That's all I'm going to say.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Nov 1 2003, 03:46 AM\']
I have one thing to say. Howard gave Rod a 4 minute 30 second tribute and Bob Barker gave him 28 seconds.
Come on John, you're smarter than that.
How many pricing games did Howard play on his show? Howard has nothing but time to fill on his show whereas TPIR tried to shoehorn a tribute into an existing formatted episode, hardly a fair comparison.
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I hear ya Chris, but TPIR shoehorning tributes into episodes like this is a bad way to pay respect in the first place. I would be much more understanding if they offered a Special show in addition to the pre-taped piece. However they never did that with Johnny and chances are they won't with Rod. That is the real reason to be upset. CBS can produce all these Million Dollar Specials (and) they can produce five shows a week for 9 months a year, but God Forbid they devote one show to a major player on the program who has died. Don't let Barker fool you either. If he wanted a real tribute to take place then it definately could.
All I'm going to say is..... Rod and Johnny .... 38 Seconds combined! That's less tribute time then it takes to play friggin "Race Game"! How happy are you about that Chris?
John
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Nov 1 2003, 02:09 AM\'] I hear ya Chris, but TPIR shoehorning tributes into episodes like this is a bad way to pay respect in the first place. [/quote]
It's better than nothing. I thought it was as appropriate a tribute as anything. Some of us understand the realities of the business.
I would be much more understanding if they offered a Special show in addition to the pre-taped piece. However they never did that with Johnny and chances are they won't with Rod. That is the real reason to be upset.
John, do you realize that most Americans didn't even know his freakin' NAME? I had "R.I.P. Rod Roddy" written on the whiteboard in my office all week, and 99% of my visitors jerked their thumb at the board and said "Who's that?"
"Today, a special tribute to the Come On Down guy." Not gonna happen. And further, an insult to whoever is currently occupying the chair, IMO.
Don't let Barker fool you either. If he wanted a real tribute to take place then it definately could.
Oh, come on. The conspiracy theory thing does not become you.
All I'm going to say is..... Rod and Johnny .... 38 Seconds combined! That's less tribute time then it takes to play friggin "Race Game"! How happy are you about that Chris?
Dude, they're announcers. Special to us? Yes. Special to 99.9% of the population? No.
Personally, out of deference and support to Randy, who has quite a job to do in the next week and change, I think we should all try to move along with him, at leasr publically. (I don't want to tell anyone to stop mourning if they feel they need to, but I think there comes a point where the public outpour does more harm than good.)
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I will put my neck on the line and say I thought the tribute was well done. Sometimes less is more, IMO.
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Dude, they're announcers. Special to us? Yes. Special to 99.9% of the population? No.
Did Rod even get a mention on the CBS Evening News? With all the wildfire coverage I wouldn't be surprised if he got squeezed out. David Brinkley and Fred Rogers got packages but they were David Brinkley and Fred Rogers. I know we all loved Rod, and not meaning to belittle Randy's profession, but I would hardly put a game show announcer in the same league as one of television's preeminent journalists and a pioneer in children's television.
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All I'm going to say is..... Rod and Johnny .... 38 Seconds combined! That's less tribute time then it takes to play friggin "Race Game"! How happy are you about that Chris?
All these years later, I still vividly remember the 1973 Hollywood Squares episode in which Peter Marshall inserted a tribute to Wally Cox at the beginning of the show. It was brief and heartfelt, just as Thursday's acknowledgement of Rod was. I assume something similar -- and just as brief -- was done when Cliff Arquette died. And these were big television stars. The show goes on.
For a Big Picture perspective, Entertainment Weekly noted Rod's passing in this week's Monitor column of news-in-brief, but devoted much more ink and pictures to the "Legacies" of Jack Elam and Fred "Rerun" Barry.
Thanks to the internet, we have things like Randy West's tribute, and of course the thoughts that our own members have shared in the last week. Those tributes are by fans and for fans, and I think that makes them special.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Nov 1 2003, 07:26 PM\']
For a Big Picture perspective, Entertainment Weekly noted Rod's passing in this week's Monitor column of news-in-brief, but devoted much more ink and pictures to the "Legacies" of Jack Elam and Fred "Rerun" Barry.
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Just how many readers of EW would remember who the heck Jack Elam was. They probably don't watch a lot of classic oaters.
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I thought that the "tribute" did not cross the line of bad taste, and like someone said, it was really a slam on the shortness of Bob's tribute, not on Rod himself. On the funnyness scale, it gets a 7. I did think that the cancer comments were stupid in an unfunny way but Howard generally drags out everything for too long and goes for silly shock value.
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Yeah..... I have one thing to say. Howard gave Rod a 4 minute 30 second tribute and Bob Barker gave him 28 seconds.
Wasn't Rod's tribute on Thu's ep about the same length as the tribute Henry Winkler delivered to John Ritter on H2 a few wks ago? Both were brief, but equally well done, IMO.
Personally, I'm thinking there may be another tribute to Rod on one of the upcoming $1M Spectaculars...we'll see, though.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")