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Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: GSNFAN3000 on April 29, 2009, 02:03:11 AM
I have a question,

When (or which celebrity line-up) did the rules change from R1-2: $500/R3: $1000/R4-: $2000 to the R1-2: $1000/R3: $2000/R4-: $4000 and the bonus round change where a contestant must earn the bonus prize rule.

Thanks!
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: chad1m on April 29, 2009, 02:25:42 AM
Chuck Donegan's Illustrious Game Show Page (http://\"http://www.illustriousgameshowpage.com/collection.html\") says the lineup was Malcolm-Jamal Warner, Naomi Judd, Al Roker, Caroline Rhea, Jamie Foxx, Ben Stein, Gilbert Gottfried, Wendy Liebman, and Whoopi Goldberg.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: golden-road on April 29, 2009, 05:53:06 AM
Actually, I seem to remember at least one episode from that week where the bonus was still automatically awarded.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: Mr. Matté on April 29, 2009, 05:43:12 PM
And if anyone wants to rush to his or her VCR/DVR to catch when this rule change will occur, the week mentioned is airing on GSN now.


[quote name=\'"Me just a line ago"\']And if anyone wants to rush to his or her VCRs...[/quote]/There, fixed that for me
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: ChuckNet on April 29, 2009, 10:39:15 PM
Actually, the increased maingame payoffs and bonus round change didn't occur at the same time...while the maingame doubling did take place during the wk Chad mentioned, the question in the bonus round was implemented the following wk.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: BrandonFG on April 30, 2009, 12:39:33 PM
I seem to remember an episode from November '98, when a male contestant racked up (I think) $14,000 in maingame winnings. Did the score change happen before or after?
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: chad1m on April 30, 2009, 12:43:42 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'214481\' date=\'Apr 30 2009, 12:39 PM\']I seem to remember an episode from November '98, when a male contestant racked up (I think) $14,000 in maingame winnings. Did the score change happen before or after?[/quote]If it happened before, he would have had to have won, at the very least, eight games, with three non-scoring rounds. If after, he would have had to win only four with three non-scoring rounds.. I'm going to guess "after", even though seven rounds seems highly unlikely anyway. Maybe you're confusing his maingame total with his main + bonus total?
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: TLEberle on April 30, 2009, 02:28:47 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'214482\' date=\'Apr 30 2009, 09:43 AM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'214481\' date=\'Apr 30 2009, 12:39 PM\']I seem to remember an episode from November '98, when a male contestant racked up (I think) $14,000 in maingame winnings. Did the score change happen before or after?[/quote]If it happened before, he would have had to have won, at the very least, eight games, with three non-scoring rounds. If after, he would have had to win only four with three non-scoring rounds.. I'm going to guess "after", even though seven rounds seems highly unlikely anyway. Maybe you're confusing his maingame total with his main + bonus total?[/quote]He wasn't. I remember it too. The guy won $14,000 in cash before the bonus question. He either won the first two or the third round, and then all the $4,000 rounds after.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: chad1m on April 30, 2009, 02:33:03 PM
Well, then, that's mighty impressive!
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: J.R. on April 30, 2009, 02:46:32 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'214495\' date=\'Apr 30 2009, 01:28 PM\']He wasn't. I remember it too. The guy won $14,000 in cash before the bonus question. He either won the first two or the third round, and then all the $4,000 rounds after.[/quote]
Incredible. I assume, if fostergray82 memory is correct again, that this episode will be airing in The Not Too Distant Future?

/Probably not Next Sunday A.D. however.
//Surprised a Round 5 wouldn't be worth $8000
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: BrandonFG on April 30, 2009, 03:13:40 PM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'214498\' date=\'Apr 30 2009, 02:46 PM\']
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'214495\' date=\'Apr 30 2009, 01:28 PM\']He wasn't. I remember it too. The guy won $14,000 in cash before the bonus question. He either won the first two or the third round, and then all the $4,000 rounds after.[/quote]
Incredible. I assume, if fostergray82 memory is correct again, that this episode will be airing in The Not Too Distant Future?

/Probably not Next Sunday A.D. however.
//Surprised a Round 5 wouldn't worth $8000
[/quote]
Where are they in the run now? I believe the Flo-Jo week just recently aired, and I remember that being week 2 (Sept. 21-25)...IIRC, this ep. aired the same night as Wheel's 3,000th episode. A little ATGS search shows that ep. airing on Friday, November 20, 1998.

/I can't remember yesterday yet I remember game shows from over a decade ago.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: J.R. on April 30, 2009, 03:28:39 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'214506\' date=\'Apr 30 2009, 02:13 PM\']Where are they in the run now?[/quote]
I believe GSN is five weeks into Bergeron HS Season One. So we've got a good solid month to go before the episode in question airs.

/Man, I have too much free time on my hands today.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: Allstar87 on April 30, 2009, 08:33:11 PM
The episode could literally show up at any time.

GSN's airing this season in taping order (as they usually do), but the episodes originally aired completely out of order. Case in point: the first two weeks GSN reran were first seen in December 1998, while the first aired week has yet to rerun.

GSN's also skipped over a few episodes; they've skipped over the fifth taped week entirely.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: Strikerz04 on May 01, 2009, 02:23:09 AM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'214498\' date=\'Apr 30 2009, 01:46 PM\']

//Surprised a Round 5 wouldn't be worth $8000
[/quote]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a match (before season 5) continue towards a round worth $8000, only to end up at the horn?
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: Ian Wallis on May 01, 2009, 05:57:32 PM
Quote
GSN's airing this season in taping order (as they usually do), but the episodes originally aired completely out of order. Case in point: the first two weeks GSN reran were first seen in December 1998, while the first aired week has yet to rerun.

GSN's also skipped over a few episodes; they've skipped over the fifth taped week entirely.

If this is any help, it was posted back when Bergeron's Squares first debuted that the premiere episode was actually No. 24, taped 8/22/98.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: clemon79 on May 01, 2009, 06:01:44 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'214634\' date=\'May 1 2009, 02:57 PM\']
If this is any help, it was posted back when Bergeron's Squares first debuted that the premiere episode was actually No. 24, taped 8/22/98.[/quote]
Right, the first couple weeks aired out of turn because of Florence Griffith Joyner dying, didn't they?
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: calliaume on May 01, 2009, 06:05:45 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'214635\' date=\'May 1 2009, 05:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'214634\' date=\'May 1 2009, 02:57 PM\']
If this is any help, it was posted back when Bergeron's Squares first debuted that the premiere episode was actually No. 24, taped 8/22/98.[/quote]
Right, the first couple weeks aired out of turn because of Florence Griffith Joyner dying, didn't they?
[/quote]
Not quite.  Per Wikipedia, HS '98 debuted September 14, 2008; Flo Jo died a week later.  If I remember correctly, they put the most star-packed week with the fewest goofups up front.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: Ian Wallis on May 01, 2009, 06:07:48 PM
Quote
Right, the first couple weeks aired out of turn because of Florence Griffith Joyner dying, didn't they?

Depends on the market.  In my area, the Flo Jo week aired as scheduled from 9/21-25/98, but I remember talking to a couple of people I was trading with at the time and they said their market aired a repeat of the debut on that Monday, followed by Flo Jo the rest of the week.  I think it was that weekend when she died and maybe some stations weren't sure what they were supposed to do(?)
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: clemon79 on May 01, 2009, 06:10:25 PM
[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'214637\' date=\'May 1 2009, 03:05 PM\']
Not quite.  Per Wikipedia, HS '98 debuted September 14, 2008; Flo Jo died a week later.  If I remember correctly, they put the most star-packed week with the fewest goofups up front.[/quote]
That might be. It sticks in my head because that second week (which I believe was to be the FloJo week) was the week I moved into my first apartment up here in Seattle.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: BrandonFG on May 01, 2009, 06:32:00 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'214639\' date=\'May 1 2009, 06:10 PM\']
[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'214637\' date=\'May 1 2009, 03:05 PM\']
Not quite.  Per Wikipedia, HS '98 debuted September 14, 2008; Flo Jo died a week later.  If I remember correctly, they put the most star-packed week with the fewest goofups up front.[/quote]
That might be. It sticks in my head because that second week (which I believe was to be the FloJo week) was the week I moved into my first apartment up here in Seattle.
[/quote]
Second week (starting the 21st) was FloJo...I think she died that Monday (Wiki confirms). I have original tapes from that week with Whoopi mentioning the week of episodes being taped before FloJo's death. However, I don't think the message started until Tuesday the 22nd...
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: Allstar87 on May 01, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'214634\' date=\'May 1 2009, 05:57 PM\']
If this is any help, it was posted back when Bergeron's Squares first debuted that the premiere episode was actually No. 24, taped 8/22/98.
[/quote]

It definitely helps. Thanks. :)

So unless GSN is saving premiere week for some special occasion, they're not gonna air it...darn.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: TroubadourNando on May 02, 2009, 10:38:52 PM
Was the out-of-order airing the cause for those odd intros with Tom and Whoopi at the beginning of the episodes GSN has rerun recently? I didn't really get into the show until H2 started, so I figure the only way I'll know is to ask.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: JasonA1 on May 02, 2009, 10:40:49 PM
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'214756\' date=\'May 2 2009, 10:38 PM\']
Was the out-of-order airing the cause for those odd intros with Tom and Whoopi at the beginning of the episodes GSN has rerun recently?
[/quote]

Yes. I believe somebody already mentioned it, but the shows taped first aired in December. Since they had lower dollar figures, and a slightly different format, they put that at the beginning to prep the viewer.

-Jason
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: ChuckNet on May 06, 2009, 10:43:17 PM
Seems like they aired a few wks out of order that season...the wk w/that $14.5K win ($12K in the maingame, plus $2.5K in "consolation cash" for missing the bonus question) was actually the first taped wk w/the revised bonus round. Also, the Mon. show of that wk featured a completely different reveal: the question was asked first, then chosen celeb Sharon Lawrence revealed what was in the envelope...they switched this immediately b/c her reveal was too anticlimactic.

And to top it off, sometime in Jan. 99 - a good 3 mos after the bonus change - they ran a new wk w/the original endgame format!

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: gsgalaxy82 on May 07, 2009, 01:40:26 AM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'214638\' date=\'May 1 2009, 06:07 PM\']Depends on the market.  In my area, the Flo Jo week aired as scheduled from 9/21-25/98, but I remember talking to a couple of people I was trading with at the time and they said their market aired a repeat of the debut on that Monday, followed by Flo Jo the rest of the week.  I think it was that weekend when she died and maybe some stations weren't sure what they were supposed to do(?)[/quote]

Also, didn't a lot of markets get the Monday episode preempted originally because the Bill Clinton testimony was released? She died the same day, so probably a combination of the two. Most markets didn't run an episode to begin with, while the others probably didn't know what to do because of her death.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: tvwxman on May 07, 2009, 06:38:45 AM
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'214756\' date=\'May 2 2009, 10:38 PM\']Was the out-of-order airing the cause for those odd intros with Tom and Whoopi at the beginning of the episodes GSN has rerun recently? I didn't really get into the show until H2 started, so I figure the only way I'll know is to ask.[/quote]
what odd intro? do tell.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: chad1m on May 07, 2009, 08:30:14 AM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'215139\' date=\'May 7 2009, 06:38 AM\']what odd intro? do tell.[/quote]They preface the episode by saying that, as a special treat for the holidays, they're showing the "lost week" of Hollywood Squares, or something to that effect.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: tvwxman on May 07, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'215143\' date=\'May 7 2009, 08:30 AM\'][quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'215139\' date=\'May 7 2009, 06:38 AM\']what odd intro? do tell.[/quote]They preface the episode by saying that, as a special treat for the holidays, they're showing the "lost week" of Hollywood Squares, or something to that effect.
[/quote]
ah yes, i do vaguely remember that. thanks.
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: ChuckNet on May 08, 2009, 09:03:15 PM
Yep, they used that intro when they aired the first 2 taped weeks, which had a few minor differences from later shows, besides the original payoffs and bonus round:

- The Xs and Os that framed the players' nameplates were pink instead of blue
- A different sound effect was used when money was added to a player's total
- A Secret Square was played in game 3 regardless of whether or not the one in game 2 was won

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: HS98 - Rule/Format Changes
Post by: WhammyPower on May 18, 2009, 03:26:18 PM
Today's GSN episode had a main game contestant win $12,000.