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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: rwalker on April 07, 2009, 12:48:08 AM
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Nice. You have to wonder if they bought just another "partial" season of Jeopardy, or are they going through 2005-06.
I did notice, the last time we had any "not new to gsn" was in August of last year. At least they haven't rerun abused it this time around. Maybe they learned from their fiasco of 2005-08?
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I wish they would start showing a new WoF season. Aren't they still running those 94-95 eps? Unless they switched up the season since my last check.
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[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'212402\' date=\'Apr 7 2009, 06:24 PM\']
I wish they would start showing a new WoF season. Aren't they still running those 94-95 eps? Unless they switched up the season since my last check.
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The current season on rotation has already been bought and paid for for at least two airplays - to change out the episodes now would just be throwing money down the can.
There seems to be a slightly greater willingness to lease episodes with the current executives running the show, so hopefully they'll change up the episodes here after this cycle. While I know some people would love to see the shopping-era episodes, personally I wouldn't mind seeing pretty much anything through the mid-late 90s. (Right up through about the time they changed puzzleboards)
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'212404\' date=\'Apr 7 2009, 05:28 PM\']
While I know some people would love to see the shopping-era episodes, personally I wouldn't mind seeing pretty much anything through the mid-late 90s. [/quote]It will never happen, but I wish the Goen episodes would surface. Fits the daytime scheme of things well, and its a good showcase of Wheel in its purer forms.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'212441\' date=\'Apr 8 2009, 10:58 AM\']It will never happen, but I wish the Goen episodes would surface. Fits the daytime scheme of things well, and its a good showcase of Wheel in its
purer cheaper forms.
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Fixed that for you.
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[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'212466\' date=\'Apr 8 2009, 02:40 PM\']Fixed that for you.[/quote]
No offense man, but are you actually going to anything else here besides snark?
It's okay to genuinely contribute once in a while, you don't always have to be Mr. Clever.
Not telling you how to post, just an honest suggestion.
/I agree with Mark. I wish GSN would acquire Goen Wheel. Despite the lower budget, it was still a very entertaining show.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'212469\' date=\'Apr 8 2009, 04:24 PM\']
I wish GSN would acquire Goen Wheel. Despite the lower budget, it was still a very entertaining show.
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I totally agree; Goen did a superb job with the show. Might also be a good way to promote Bob's GSN Radio gig too.
ObJeopardyOnGSN: Glad they picked up season 22; a lot of great games there. And finally, I'm going to get to see David Madden's last show.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'212469\' date=\'Apr 8 2009, 04:24 PM\']No offense man, but are you actually going to anything else here besides snark?[/quote]
Sorry about that. I'll try to rein in the snark.
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[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'212481\' date=\'Apr 8 2009, 06:07 PM\']Sorry about that. I'll try to rein in the snark.[/quote]
It's cool. I understand it's easy to get on a roll and overdo it sometimes. Thanks for hearing me out. :-)
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'212483\' date=\'Apr 8 2009, 07:23 PM\']It's cool. I understand it's easy to get on a roll and overdo it sometimes. Thanks for hearing me out. :-)
[/quote]You can have your "Good Guy" crown back. ;)
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'212441\' date=\'Apr 8 2009, 09:58 AM\']
[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'212404\' date=\'Apr 7 2009, 05:28 PM\']
While I know some people would love to see the shopping-era episodes, personally I wouldn't mind seeing pretty much anything through the mid-late 90s. [/quote]It will never happen, but I wish the Goen episodes would surface. Fits the daytime scheme of things well, and its a good showcase of Wheel in its purer forms.
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Goen was golden here, and I'd agree too that GSN would pick this up. When I was younger, I was more excited to see his version than the nighttime version. Even watching some of the Goen WOF on the internets makes me wish it was still on now.
\But at the age of 4, Sajak frightened me.
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Of course, I wouldn't mind if GSN found a way to acquire Daytime WOF episodes from January to June 1989. ;-)
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How about the NBC daytime ones? We know they dug a few up for the Merv tribute...so they are still there, not burned as once thought.
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[quote name=\'rwalker\' post=\'212690\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:35 AM\']How about the NBC daytime ones? We know they dug a few up for the Merv tribute...so they are still there, not burned as once thought.[/quote]
It was always known that "a few" were still around (most collectors have several), but the overwhelming majority are gone. Just because you saw one or two on GSN doesn't mean that the entire run survives and everybody's been wrong all these years..
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'212489\' date=\'Apr 8 2009, 08:27 PM\']
Of course, I wouldn't mind if GSN found a way to acquire Daytime WOF episodes from January to June 1989. ;-)
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Dear me, exposing Rolf to a new generation.
If the reruns hit, perhaps he'll be tapped to host the next season of Bingo America.
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It was always known that "a few" were still around (most collectors have several), but the overwhelming majority are gone. Just because you saw one or two on GSN doesn't mean that the entire run survives and everybody's been wrong all these years..
One that would seem to be still around, surprisingly, is the very first episode from 1975. Numerous clips were used from it on the E True Hollywood Story from several years ago. You'd think GSN would have it because they own (or once owned) the Griffin library. Maybe the chose not to air it because it's a little too different from the rest of the Woolery episodes, such as the short-lived "Buy a Vowel" space. Would have been nice to see it in its entirety though!
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'212727\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 03:54 PM\']
such as the short-lived "Buy a Vowel" space.
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Out of curiosity: how exactly did that space work? Exactly the same as if you attempted to buy a vowel freely?
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212772\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:17 PM\']
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'212727\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 03:54 PM\']
such as the short-lived "Buy a Vowel" space.
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Out of curiosity: how exactly did that space work? Exactly the same as if you attempted to buy a vowel freely?
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From what I've read, you automatically had to go for the vowel. If you didn't have $250, you forfeited your turn.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'212777\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:26 PM\']
From what I've read, you automatically had to go for the vowel. If you didn't have $250, you forfeited your turn.
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Interesting. Were you still penalized the $250 if the vowel wasn't in the puzzle?
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212778\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'212777\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:26 PM\']
From what I've read, you automatically had to go for the vowel. If you didn't have $250, you forfeited your turn.
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Interesting. Were you still penalized the $250 if the vowel wasn't in the puzzle?
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Most likely.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212778\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 08:28 PM\']
Interesting. Were you still penalized the $250 if the vowel wasn't in the puzzle?[/quote]
Since you were buying a vowel just like any OTHER time you buy a vowel? Yes.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'212876\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 02:35 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212778\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 08:28 PM\']
Interesting. Were you still penalized the $250 if the vowel wasn't in the puzzle?[/quote]
Since you were buying a vowel just like any OTHER time you buy a vowel? Yes.
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I asked because the idea of being forced to take that risk due to nothing more than luck rubbed me the wrong way, but I guess that's why it was shortlived.
I guess maybe it made more sense to someone back in that era?
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I asked because the idea of being forced to take that risk due to nothing more than luck rubbed me the wrong way, but I guess that's why it was shortlived.
You're worried about risk-taking when the whole point of the show is spinning a big honking wheel? :-p
A forced "Buy a Vowel" space is no worse than "Bankrupt" in that regard.
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'212950\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 09:52 PM\']
I asked because the idea of being forced to take that risk due to nothing more than luck rubbed me the wrong way, but I guess that's why it was shortlived.
You're worried about risk-taking when the whole point of the show is spinning a big honking wheel? :-p
A forced "Buy a Vowel" space is no worse than "Bankrupt" in that regard.
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Bankrupt is meant to be a penalty space though, isn't it? The impression I'm getting of Buy A Vowel is that it was meant to be a beneficial space that happened to carry an unintended negative consequence of being spun.
That, and having some letter-guessing spaces take money away while most give you money is something I could see leading to an unnecessary complication; I'd imagine that if the Buy A Vowel space was never terminated, at least one contestant would have been thrown by it. But then again, this is Wheel I'm talking about, the show of a million gimmicks - so I'm just wasting my time even stating this.
...On another note, the Edd Byrnes pilot for Wheel is available among collectors, is it not? Did that have any of the unusual spaces like Buy A Vowel or the category space from the Shopper's Bazaar pilot?
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212953\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 10:37 PM\']Did that have any of the unusual spaces like Buy A Vowel or the category space from the Shopper's Bazaar pilot?[/quote]Wouldn't've mattered. Kookie would've let you buy a "4" for all he cared.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'212956\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 10:46 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212953\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 10:37 PM\']Did that have any of the unusual spaces like Buy A Vowel or the category space from the Shopper's Bazaar pilot?[/quote]Wouldn't've mattered. Kookie would've let you buy a "4" for all he cared.
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Now, that, was flipping funny. Well done!!!
And I say that, as a friend of Kookie's son.
/No, he doesn't have the pilot.
/No, he doesn't care.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'212956\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 10:46 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212953\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 10:37 PM\']Did that have any of the unusual spaces like Buy A Vowel or the category space from the Shopper's Bazaar pilot?[/quote]Wouldn't've mattered. Kookie would've let you buy a "4" for all he cared.
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Well played. I chuckled.
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I saw some flap on the WOF boards, that anything pre 1985(save for the episode we know are there, like Pat's first show, Chuck's last show, first nighttime, etc.) is probably gone. Anything after 1985 is still there. There was also Pat's last daytime show during the marathon also. Basically, not all of them are gone. I bet it's a case of "Peter Marshall Hollywood Squares" all over again. They thought all of those were gone, and found about 200.
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[quote name=\'rwalker\' post=\'213073\' date=\'Apr 13 2009, 09:05 PM\']
I saw some flap on the WOF boards, that anything pre 1985(save for the episode we know are there, like Pat's first show, Chuck's last show, first nighttime, etc.) is probably gone. Anything after 1985 is still there. There was also Pat's last daytime show during the marathon also. Basically, not all of them are gone. I bet it's a case of "Peter Marshall Hollywood Squares" all over again. They thought all of those were gone, and found about 200.
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But that's a lot less than all of them, which you're willing to believe is there just being hidden.
Pre-1985, I figure, is kinda pushing it, though. Unless NBC was still wiping shows after 1981, because we know Go's intact and the G-T shows that were there are as well (except for Mindreaders and even though G-T was good with that), I highly doubt '85 would be the earliest you could find episodes from. (I would figure maybe two years earlier than that, for reasons I'm not entirely sure of, but I would figure if the practice as a whole had ended by the early '80s that episodes from some point before '85 are still around, but not too far of a point.)
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I saw some flap on the WOF boards, that anything pre 1985(save for the episode we know are there, like Pat's first show, Chuck's last show, first nighttime, etc.) is probably gone.
Keep in mind that GSN has run the first several seasons of nighttime shows in the past, so we can safely assume all nighttime shows from '83-on are still around.
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I thought I posted this, but I guess not. I saw a screen shot of WoF in which a contestant had a negative score in front of him. The simplest explanation for it would be that when they had the BaV space, you could end up with a negative score. (I also STR that they had a $200 minimum to shop with if you won the round, so solving in that situation didn't create a rules problem.)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'213526\' date=\'Apr 19 2009, 04:49 PM\']
I saw a screen shot of WoF in which a contestant had a negative score in front of him.
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